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Date: January 19th, 2018 11:11 PM
Author: twisted mind-boggling kitchen

A police background was becoming much less important in the Gestapo promotion stakes by the late 1930s. The key university qualification to gain graduate entry to the Gestapo was a law degree. It became normal for graduate entrants to gain rapid promotions over the heads of older, experienced, but less academically qualified police detectives. Dr Werner Best, head of personnel at the Gestapo HQ, believed the hard-working requirements of a law degree suited the investigative work of the Gestapo, which was why he proactively encouraged the appointment of law graduates to the highest positions within the Gestapo from 1936 onwards.

McDonough, Frank. The Gestapo: The Myth and Reality of Hitler's Secret Police (Kindle Locations 803-808). Skyhorse Publishing. Kindle Edition.

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Date: January 13th, 2026 9:44 PM
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Date: January 19th, 2018 11:13 PM
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Date: January 20th, 2018 8:27 AM
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Date: January 20th, 2018 8:31 AM
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I believe a eeirly large proportion of the einsatzgrupen were also scholars and practioners of the law

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Date: January 20th, 2018 9:22 AM
Author: twisted mind-boggling kitchen

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Notably, the Einsatzgruppen included many high-ranking officers, intellectuals and lawyers. Otto Ohlendorf, who commanded Einsatzgruppe D, had earned degrees from three universities and achieved a doctorate in jurisprudence.

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Date: January 20th, 2018 9:28 AM
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(1) The Security Service (SD) men rousted the people out of their houses in the Riga ghetto.

(2) The people to be murdered (typically Jews) were organised into columns of 500 to 1,000 people and driven to the killing grounds about 10 kilometres to the south.

(3) The Order Police (Orpo) led the columns to the killing grounds.

(4) Three pits had already been dug where the killing would be done simultaneously.

(5) The victims were stripped of their clothing and valuables.

(6) The victims were run through a double cordon of guards on the way to the killing pits.

(7) The killers forced the victims to lie face down on the trench floor, or more often, on the bodies of the people who had just been shot.

(8) Each person was shot once in the back of the head with a Russian submachine gun. The shooters either walked among the dead in the trench, killing them from a range of two metres, or stood at the lip of the excavation and shot the prone victims below them. Anyone not killed outright was simply buried alive when the pit was covered up.

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Date: January 20th, 2018 9:30 AM
Author: twisted mind-boggling kitchen

did SS death squads bill time?

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Date: January 28th, 2018 2:32 AM
Author: Cream curious french chef

yes and right before they gassed the jews they filed a Moshe in Chimney

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Date: January 28th, 2018 4:33 AM
Author: big double fault



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Date: January 27th, 2026 7:33 PM
Author: cracking sickened business firm cuckold



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Date: January 20th, 2018 9:03 AM
Author: nubile dysfunction ticket booth

180?

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Date: January 20th, 2018 9:06 AM
Author: Startling shrine tattoo

one more reason to hate you cunts

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Date: January 20th, 2018 9:15 AM
Author: twisted mind-boggling kitchen



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Date: January 20th, 2018 9:08 AM
Author: mauve swashbuckling mad-dog skullcap

did the holocaust happen?

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Date: January 20th, 2018 9:17 AM
Author: Free-loading Arousing Sweet Tailpipe Box Office

based on xo, seems like they got that one right

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Date: January 20th, 2018 9:29 AM
Author: green locale

Hitler didn't even graduate from high school

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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:04 AM
Author: Grizzly Abode Yarmulke



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Date: January 20th, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: Provocative quadroon death wish



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Date: January 20th, 2018 10:15 AM
Author: twisted mind-boggling kitchen



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:01 AM
Author: twisted mind-boggling kitchen



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:06 AM
Author: Insecure Parlour Newt

Has anyone here ever actually worked with German lawyers? I'm guessing their legal education has undergone some changes in the interim.

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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:10 AM
Author: Self-centered really tough guy

1930s lawyers: kills Jews

2010s lawyers: 12am email to partner Goldstein

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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:45 AM
Author: Startling shrine tattoo



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:48 AM
Author: stirring generalized bond affirmative action



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Date: January 20th, 2018 12:13 PM
Author: Autistic frisky university



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Date: February 10th, 2018 1:02 AM
Author: Topaz motley stock car library



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Date: January 28th, 2018 1:55 AM
Author: twisted mind-boggling kitchen

"On 1 March 1940, Adam Lipper walked into his local Gestapo office and asked to be placed in a concentration camp for six months to cure his chronic alcoholism. He claimed a spell in a concentration camp would cure him"

McDonough, Frank. The Gestapo: The Myth and Reality of Hitler's Secret Police (Kindle Locations 2507-2509). Skyhorse Publishing. Kindle Edition.

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Date: January 28th, 2018 2:03 AM
Author: Burgundy Alcoholic Rigor Athletic Conference



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Date: January 28th, 2018 2:04 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Foreskin

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Date: January 28th, 2018 4:34 AM
Author: tripping haunted graveyard feces



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Date: January 28th, 2018 7:05 AM
Author: smoky lay love of her life

Dio Brando graduated first in his class in law

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Date: January 28th, 2018 11:55 AM
Author: twisted mind-boggling kitchen



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Date: February 10th, 2018 1:00 AM
Author: twisted mind-boggling kitchen

In another case, a twenty-year-old Jewish housemaid described having sex with two ‘Aryan’ German men in full pornographic detail during a confession to the Gestapo that runs to several single-spaced typed pages. Rather than simply asking the woman to admit to sexual intercourse, which was all that was required for a conviction on a ‘race defilement’ charge, the Gestapo officer clearly wanted to hear the full intimate sexual details. Some Gestapo officers evidently gained some prurient pleasure from listening to women, usually under the age of forty, discussing these intimate sexual encounters.

McDonough, Frank. The Gestapo: The Myth and Reality of Hitler's Secret Police (Kindle Locations 3269-3274). Skyhorse Publishing. Kindle Edition.

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Date: January 13th, 2026 9:38 PM
Author: beta elite sanctuary windowlicker

And these horny little kike sluts *evidently* loved recounting every second of it to whoever would listen!

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Date: January 18th, 2026 7:53 PM
Author: flickering reading party nowag

The first ever box thread

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Date: January 13th, 2026 9:41 PM
Author: Unholy Stimulating Field

a law degree opened doors to opening floors

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