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The Everyday Of Keeping House From Turning Into A Shithole Is So Exhausting

it's so easy to let the house become a complete shithole, an...
Bistre metal dilemma
  01/19/26
Translation: "I'm a filthy inbred jewish dumbass living...
Amethyst Institution Chad
  01/20/26
poor rc? translation: i stress out and drive myself craz...
Bistre metal dilemma
  01/20/26
This is why you need a housekeeper you have sex with
Sickened sinister church building gaming laptop
  01/19/26
it's horrible enough having our redneck nanny around for 6 h...
Bistre metal dilemma
  01/19/26
you need to upgrade- au pair style
Sickened sinister church building gaming laptop
  01/19/26
our house isn't big enough. it's 2800 SF, but only 4 bedroom...
Bistre metal dilemma
  01/19/26
don't you live in are country? why is your home so small?
Excitant canary crackhouse
  01/19/26
that's the typical house around where our are country shul i...
Bistre metal dilemma
  01/19/26
they don't clean your house though
up-to-no-good razzle-dazzle bawdyhouse
  01/19/26
eventually you just stop trying and accept you'll do a gut r...
Adventurous Tripping Gas Station Foreskin
  01/19/26
your kids will be able to do it soon enough
Infuriating hot private investor
  01/19/26
doesnt seem on the horizon. they absolutely trash their play...
Bistre metal dilemma
  01/19/26
How old are they? You can get them involved by making cleani...
Exciting nowag milk
  01/19/26
recently 5 and 3. we do stickers/treats for cleaning up, but...
Bistre metal dilemma
  01/19/26
Your 5 year old puts away toys at school so they can put awa...
Exciting nowag milk
  01/19/26
amen
up-to-no-good razzle-dazzle bawdyhouse
  01/19/26
...
Bistre metal dilemma
  01/19/26
wah wah wah u pedo faggot
yapping tan sanctuary
  01/19/26
we must imagine sisyphus happy
ruddy set
  01/19/26
:(
Bistre metal dilemma
  01/19/26
...
fighting roast beef
  01/20/26
Just give yourself breaks, order takeout sometimes so you do...
Exciting nowag milk
  01/19/26
tbf, we have plenty of breaks -- my parents watch them a ton...
Bistre metal dilemma
  01/19/26
Yeah we just gave up and have been living in absolute squalo...
vermilion house-broken school cafeteria
  01/19/26
...
fighting roast beef
  01/20/26
Some people are giving you shit, but it is true. A lot of li...
provocative slimy university community account
  01/19/26
exactly. now imagine some other random shit comes up, furthe...
Bistre metal dilemma
  01/19/26
I don't know your whole story, but if your wife also works t...
provocative slimy university community account
  01/19/26
yes, we both work. both wfh which makes the grind much bette...
Bistre metal dilemma
  01/19/26
You're in a great situation. Just try to focus on how lucky ...
Exciting nowag milk
  01/19/26
that's the scary think -- we're in a better position than mo...
Bistre metal dilemma
  01/20/26
Why do you hate it so much? Is it making it impossible to fi...
Chestnut useless point
  01/20/26
*poasting
Bistre metal dilemma
  01/20/26
You can drop your squalor off at my place. I don't mind
Mildly Autistic Pervert Dysfunction
  01/19/26
"slavery" theyre youre kids u faggot
yapping tan sanctuary
  01/19/26
...
Razzle Becky Toilet Seat
  01/19/26
a robot cant do 95% of the shit i identified in the OP
Bistre metal dilemma
  01/19/26
stop bitching like a fucking woman to a support group u fuck...
yapping tan sanctuary
  01/19/26
...
Razzle Becky Toilet Seat
  01/19/26
Do air purifiers help with dust? I am in a never-ending batt...
Thriller transparent theater
  01/20/26
...
Razzle Becky Toilet Seat
  01/20/26
where does all this fucking dust come from? i dont have pets...
Thriller transparent theater
  01/20/26
Human skin cells, apparently.
Bistre metal dilemma
  01/20/26
dare i say ... TP?
diverse psychic
  01/19/26
You could probably afford to pay a house manager 60-70K per ...
Exciting nowag milk
  01/19/26
rofl no. this is 3-4 different employees (maid, nanny, chef,...
Bistre metal dilemma
  01/20/26
It's not that hard for one person to pick up and drop off yo...
Exciting nowag milk
  01/22/26
that's normal stuff lol I thought this would be about actual...
Internet-worthy aquamarine tank
  01/19/26
Millennial wives do like 25% of housework imo
Chestnut useless point
  01/20/26
as i said above, add in random repairs and other random shit...
Bistre metal dilemma
  01/20/26
Don't jews like living in filth anyway?
cracking church
  01/20/26
absolutely. i refuse to. i cant stand it.
Bistre metal dilemma
  01/20/26
I don’t follow. Aren’t you Jewish? Why don&rsquo...
cracking church
  01/20/26
I used to try and rely on wife... now just pay consuela to s...
concupiscible office
  01/20/26
monasticism is the way
Very tactful aromatic menage tattoo
  01/20/26
You should get rid of the nanny. It’s fucking disgrace...
Stimulating Twisted Site Indirect Expression
  01/20/26
wife makes too much to quit her job. the "cleaning&q...
Bistre metal dilemma
  01/20/26


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Date: January 19th, 2026 4:35 PM
Author: Bistre metal dilemma

it's so easy to let the house become a complete shithole, and it's exhausting to keep up with it.

just seems like a never ending hamster wheel to prevent the house from going to hell, and wastes so much precious time at the end of the workday.

it's all little stuff but it all adds up. loading and unloading dishwasher, cleaning the shit that doesnt go in the dishwasher, wiping down the kitchen countertops, sweeping/vacuuming under where the kids eat, opening delivery boxes and putting shit away, breaking down the boxes and taking them to the garbage, taking the garbage out on trash days etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49601767)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 3:19 AM
Author: Amethyst Institution Chad

Translation: "I'm a filthy inbred jewish dumbass living in a pigsty hovel"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602987)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 4:31 PM
Author: Bistre metal dilemma

poor rc?

translation: i stress out and drive myself crazy to make sure i dont live in a pigsty hovel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49604276)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: Sickened sinister church building gaming laptop

This is why you need a housekeeper you have sex with

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49601817)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 4:55 PM
Author: Bistre metal dilemma

it's horrible enough having our redneck nanny around for 6 hrs a day. cant imagine having live-in help.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49601826)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 4:56 PM
Author: Sickened sinister church building gaming laptop

you need to upgrade- au pair style

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49601827)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 5:02 PM
Author: Bistre metal dilemma

our house isn't big enough. it's 2800 SF, but only 4 bedrooms, and the baby is already in the 3rd car garage which is our gym. there's nowhere to put an au pair.

and then i cant walk around in my boxers, i cant just speak racist all the time, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49601842)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 5:04 PM
Author: Excitant canary crackhouse

don't you live in are country? why is your home so small?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49601850)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 5:05 PM
Author: Bistre metal dilemma

that's the typical house around where our are country shul is. it's actually on the bigger side

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49601852)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 5:03 PM
Author: up-to-no-good razzle-dazzle bawdyhouse

they don't clean your house though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49601848)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 5:00 PM
Author: Adventurous Tripping Gas Station Foreskin

eventually you just stop trying and accept you'll do a gut reno at some point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49601838)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 5:00 PM
Author: Infuriating hot private investor

your kids will be able to do it soon enough

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49601839)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 5:03 PM
Author: Bistre metal dilemma

doesnt seem on the horizon. they absolutely trash their play area and i have to yell at them to clean it up. they eventually do it after tons of fighting and pushback and stalling and dicking around. it'd be easier to just do it ourselves, but that doesnt teach them. i dont see them being neat on their own anytime oson.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49601847)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 9:44 PM
Author: Exciting nowag milk

How old are they? You can get them involved by making cleaning up their toys fun and like a game. Or help them make a chore list and give them some kind of modest allowance or treat to incentivize cleanliness. Don't give in to your own laziness and allow them to be messy and lazy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602564)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 9:47 PM
Author: Bistre metal dilemma

recently 5 and 3. we do stickers/treats for cleaning up, but they still take forever and fight it.

i'm stubborn and don't give in. it's a struggle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602570)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 9:49 PM
Author: Exciting nowag milk

Your 5 year old puts away toys at school so they can put away toys at home too. Give your kids some discipline now or they'll be absolutely out of control when they're older.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602582)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 5:03 PM
Author: up-to-no-good razzle-dazzle bawdyhouse

amen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49601846)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 6:32 PM
Author: Bistre metal dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602054)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 5:11 PM
Author: yapping tan sanctuary

wah wah wah u pedo faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49601863)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 9:35 PM
Author: ruddy set

we must imagine sisyphus happy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602535)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 9:41 PM
Author: Bistre metal dilemma

:(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602553)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:23 AM
Author: fighting roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49603073)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 9:47 PM
Author: Exciting nowag milk

Just give yourself breaks, order takeout sometimes so you don't have to clean up so much, get a housekeeper every few weeks. It's not so bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602574)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 9:53 PM
Author: Bistre metal dilemma

tbf, we have plenty of breaks -- my parents watch them a ton. we're extremely lucky in that respect. and it's STILL a fucking grind. i dont know how 2 income families who dont have the help we do even survive.

a housekeeper coming every other week doesnt deal with the daily grind.

takeout? rofl there's no kosher restaurants here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602596)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 9:48 PM
Author: vermilion house-broken school cafeteria

Yeah we just gave up and have been living in absolute squalor for the past 6 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602578)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:12 AM
Author: fighting roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49603063)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 9:52 PM
Author: provocative slimy university community account

Some people are giving you shit, but it is true. A lot of life is really just low level maintenance to keep things running in some way shape or form. Easy to go crazy when you look at the full picture:

--Need to get 7+ hours of sleep to have energy for the day

--Need to go to a gym to do exercise to stay physically fit (because your job is sitting in front of a screen all day)

--Need to eat healthy food and possibly even track what you eat to stop from getting a gut

--Need to cook your meals (to stay healthy and manage spending) which means you have to clean dishes and all that bullshit

--Need to clean up around the house so it doesn't get out of hand

--Need to clean up after your kids

--Oh wow would you look at that its 10pm. Better get to sleep so you can do it all over again tomorrow!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602593)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 9:56 PM
Author: Bistre metal dilemma

exactly. now imagine some other random shit comes up, further wasting your time. plus we have a baby.

wife and i have decided not to sacrifice on any of those things -- we both want to be healthy and well rested, and not live in squalor. it's exhausting.

wife feels like she barely has any quality time with the kids, and the evenings with them are just us engaged in slavery to feed them and get them ready for bed and in bed and to clean up their toys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602603)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 10:03 PM
Author: provocative slimy university community account

I don't know your whole story, but if your wife also works then it is truly a grind. To your earlier point, no clue how two income households make it work with minimal outside help. I do think some people are just "built" to have kids and big families to some extent.

The plus side is that once the kids hit a certain age, it will chill out. Lots of ultra concentrated effort for a relatively short time that reaps big benefits for everyone over the long haul. Obviously that doesn't make it less unpleasant when you're stacking the dishwasher for the 9,000th time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602626)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 10:07 PM
Author: Bistre metal dilemma

yes, we both work. both wfh which makes the grind much better. plus we have a home gym. so easier to eat healthy lunches and work out.

and as mentioned above, we have lots of family help. it's still an insane grind.

im hoping it chills out soon. the baby stuff is obviously making things worse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602638)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 10:49 PM
Author: Exciting nowag milk

You're in a great situation. Just try to focus on how lucky you are to be able to WFH and not commute to an office on top of all the other stuff you're responsible for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602710)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:46 AM
Author: Bistre metal dilemma

that's the scary think -- we're in a better position than most, and it's still an exhausting hamster wheel just to remain healthy, well rested and not have the house go to shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49603093)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:17 AM
Author: Chestnut useless point

Why do you hate it so much? Is it making it impossible to find time for Gaming?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49603064)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:46 AM
Author: Bistre metal dilemma

*poasting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49603094)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 10:04 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Pervert Dysfunction

You can drop your squalor off at my place. I don't mind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602633)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 10:07 PM
Author: yapping tan sanctuary

"slavery"

theyre youre kids u faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602639)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 10:00 PM
Author: Razzle Becky Toilet Seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602613)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 10:02 PM
Author: Bistre metal dilemma

a robot cant do 95% of the shit i identified in the OP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602620)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 10:07 PM
Author: yapping tan sanctuary

stop bitching like a fucking woman to a support group u fucking pedo faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602642)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 10:10 PM
Author: Razzle Becky Toilet Seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602648)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 8:35 AM
Author: Thriller transparent theater

Do air purifiers help with dust? I am in a never-ending battle and as soon as I vacuum it’s dusty again the next day. I even have the most expensive HVAC filters too. Which purifiers do you recommend?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49603146)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 8:54 AM
Author: Razzle Becky Toilet Seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49603164)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 9:33 AM
Author: Thriller transparent theater

where does all this fucking dust come from? i dont have pets either! i dont wear shoes in the house, the windows havent even been opened...what the fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49603221)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 9:38 AM
Author: Bistre metal dilemma

Human skin cells, apparently.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49603226)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 10:02 PM
Author: diverse psychic

dare i say ... TP?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602623)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 10:52 PM
Author: Exciting nowag milk

You could probably afford to pay a house manager 60-70K per year to take over all those repetitive tasks like cleaning, grocery shopping, organizing your house, cooking, dropping off and picking up your kids, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602718)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:48 AM
Author: Bistre metal dilemma

rofl no. this is 3-4 different employees (maid, nanny, chef, house manager). no one person is gonna do all that shit properly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49603095)



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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:24 PM
Author: Exciting nowag milk

It's not that hard for one person to pick up and drop off your kids at school/daycare, grocery shop, cook, and clean up. That's a full day of work. You could just order out or use another meal prep service if you don't trust the person's cooking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49608709)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 10:52 PM
Author: Internet-worthy aquamarine tank

that's normal stuff lol I thought this would be about actual repairs does your wife not do anything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602719)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:19 AM
Author: Chestnut useless point

Millennial wives do like 25% of housework imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49603065)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:49 AM
Author: Bistre metal dilemma

as i said above, add in random repairs and other random shit that inevitably comes up to the regular stuff.

wife does a ton too. works full time plus is constantly nursing our 6 month old baby, plus has her own hamster wheel of feeding the kids dinner, policing the dinner, making kid's lunch for school the next day, getting kids in pajamas and teeth brushed and to bed, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49603099)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 12:45 AM
Author: cracking church

Don't jews like living in filth anyway?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49602909)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:50 AM
Author: Bistre metal dilemma

absolutely. i refuse to. i cant stand it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49603100)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 4:19 PM
Author: cracking church

I don’t follow. Aren’t you Jewish? Why don’t you enjoy a filthy hovel?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49604230)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 3:54 AM
Author: concupiscible office

I used to try and rely on wife... now just pay consuela to show up at least once a week

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49603000)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:23 AM
Author: Very tactful aromatic menage tattoo

monasticism is the way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49603072)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:32 AM
Author: Stimulating Twisted Site Indirect Expression

You should get rid of the nanny. It’s fucking disgraceful that you have some stranger raising your kids. Get housecleaning help instead. At one point we had someone coming every day for half a day to clean. Then backed off to 3 days per week, now once a week. It’s money well spent and you’re not outsourcing your most important jerb

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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:52 AM
Author: Bistre metal dilemma

wife makes too much to quit her job.

the "cleaning" that housekeepers do isnt the day to day household help that we need help with. we have a good maid who cleans the bathrooms. bathrooms dont need to be cleaned every day.

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