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Freshman serves 4.5 years for defending himself against 7 frat attackers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkhW_96Mmkg The prosecuto...
violet stirring site
  09/27/25
Clique-based justice imo. But anyone carrying a gun has to k...
Awkward New Version Telephone
  09/27/25
Yep just take your unprovoked nonconsensual gang beatdown li...
stimulating grizzly hall sex offender
  09/27/25
He was the provocateur. He and his buddies “pranked&rd...
Hairless ceo address
  09/27/25
You have to infer from Race and Clique though imo
Awkward New Version Telephone
  09/27/25
It sounds like he wasn’t even going to get his ass kic...
Hairless ceo address
  09/27/25
I was giving him the benefit of the doubt imo. Apparently th...
Awkward New Version Telephone
  09/27/25
I barely watched the video and was going off op and yt comme...
stimulating grizzly hall sex offender
  09/27/25
First trial was a mistrial. Second the pros dropped murder 1...
Mind-boggling house
  09/27/25
(math genius)
Judgmental circlehead
  09/28/25
He was worried about his friends. Also he was covered in scr...
Mind-boggling house
  09/27/25
i've heard judges say "you can't bring a gun to a fist ...
greedy garrison
  09/27/25
But where do you draw the line!
Comical deer antler
  09/27/25
do they really say that? non lawmo here fucking insane so...
unhinged station
  09/27/25
This is exactly why George Zimmerman was acquitted. His head...
Mind-boggling house
  09/27/25
Damn, that's right. So you're obligated to take a life threa...
unhinged station
  09/27/25
The crazy part is Zimmerman's jurors said they were desperat...
Mind-boggling house
  09/27/25
Yes but systemic raycism!!
aromatic institution
  09/27/25
Couldnt he just shoot at the ground? Seems like gun was fine...
Mildly autistic preventive strike
  09/27/25
“Warning shots” are not a thing Mandy, go take a...
abnormal concupiscible area
  09/27/25
Warning shots aren’t the orthodoxy anywhere afaik. Scu...
Awkward New Version Telephone
  09/27/25
Warning shots are flame (and put innocent people in the vici...
big corn cake
  09/27/25
This is what happens when angry retards encounter each other...
charcoal vigorous location
  09/27/25
They should have simply poasted on XO
Mind-boggling house
  09/27/25
Good keed dindu nuffin he was tryna go ta college
maroon church building tattoo
  09/27/25
his grandfather's ashes in a necklace pendant saved his life...
greedy garrison
  09/27/25
the fact that anyone can buy a gun is wild, this place is li...
lake glittery range azn
  09/27/25
truly insane that people get in fights and suplex their head...
Carmine genital piercing mental disorder
  09/27/25
CR
unhinged station
  09/27/25
I heard a story of a kid in elementary school getting into h...
Carmine genital piercing mental disorder
  09/27/25
...
Comical deer antler
  09/27/25
imagine sending ur kids to an all blk school
Carmine genital piercing mental disorder
  09/27/25
That's terrible. The other kid's parents were surely trainin...
unhinged station
  09/27/25
...
Carmine genital piercing mental disorder
  09/27/25
Not to mention you can get Charlie Kirk'd by a guy with a kn...
Mind-boggling house
  09/27/25
This is 100% accurate in general but imo they were still fra...
Awkward New Version Telephone
  09/27/25
For the life of me, I cannot believe We'd ever die for thes...
Odious Territorial Stain
  09/27/25
...
Passionate police squad
  09/27/25
Wrong place, wrong time, your life’s fucked.
ungodly public bath
  09/27/25
...
Awkward New Version Telephone
  09/27/25
https://abovethelaw.com/2011/02/breaking-temple-law-student-...
pea-brained vermilion office
  09/27/25
hard to tell if he's actually guilty or not. Probably not.
titillating lime nursing home laser beams
  09/28/25


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Date: September 27th, 2025 1:42 AM
Author: violet stirring site

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkhW_96Mmkg

The prosecutor was nuts: "an assassin emerging from the dark"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49306985)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: Awkward New Version Telephone

Clique-based justice imo. But anyone carrying a gun has to know that there may well be a time to just get your ass kicked and not try to pre-empt it with deadly force. Especially when it wasn’t on him but in his glove box so basically no chance for a drunk frat brother to shoot him randomly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307171)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 9:35 AM
Author: stimulating grizzly hall sex offender

Yep just take your unprovoked nonconsensual gang beatdown like a man!

I love this attitude and laughed at the guy getting shot in the face

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307193)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Hairless ceo address

He was the provocateur. He and his buddies “pranked” the other frat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307203)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Awkward New Version Telephone

You have to infer from Race and Clique though imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307209)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 9:40 AM
Author: Hairless ceo address

It sounds like he wasn’t even going to get his ass kicked. He left, collected a gun from a vehicle, and then returned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307200)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 9:51 AM
Author: Awkward New Version Telephone

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt imo. Apparently they only got as close as 90 feet to his Car

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307210)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: stimulating grizzly hall sex offender

I barely watched the video and was going off op and yt comments

Why did he only do 4.5 years then? I never heard of such a short sentence for a felony murder

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307330)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 11:55 AM
Author: Mind-boggling house

First trial was a mistrial. Second the pros dropped murder 1 for murder 2. Then they came to a plea agreement for aggravated assault which he got the maximum of 6. Serves 85% in AZ which is 4.5 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307355)



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Date: September 28th, 2025 2:43 AM
Author: Judgmental circlehead

(math genius)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49308595)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 11:57 AM
Author: Mind-boggling house

He was worried about his friends. Also he was covered in scrapes and bruises. At least one juror thought it was self defense. The frat bros had to concede somebody sucker punched him then followed him. I agree it's not cut and dry self defense but the bros did escalate considerably. The 4.5 years served was probably a just outcome for the kid overreacting by using deadly force but also understandably being freaked out as 7 guys followed him after hitting him in the head. Split the difference.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307360)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 11:41 AM
Author: greedy garrison

i've heard judges say "you can't bring a gun to a fist fight," but at some point the beat down threatens your life, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307327)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: Comical deer antler

But where do you draw the line!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307329)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 11:52 AM
Author: unhinged station

do they really say that? non lawmo here

fucking insane some of the beatings I've seen videos of where guys are having straight-armed seizures writhing on the pavement with permanent brain damage after getting suplexed, but the thought of just pulling out a gun or having a duel is somehow beyond the pale. Fuck this gay ass country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307351)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Mind-boggling house

This is exactly why George Zimmerman was acquitted. His head injuries were consistent with his story of being slammed into the concrete by Trayvon on top of him. Self defense justified when there's imminent danger to your life. Also the prosecution couldn't explain why Trayvon was so close to home but never attempted to flee. So he ostensibly came back and attacked George out of nowhere and was on the verge of killing him with his hands by slamming his head on the concrete. One shot everyone knows the rules.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307366)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 12:13 PM
Author: unhinged station

Damn, that's right. So you're obligated to take a life threatening beating from someone bigger than you before you can shoot them. Not being a roided MMA trained beast in today's society is insane, if you're someone who still goes out "SARGING" for pussy, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307386)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 12:20 PM
Author: Mind-boggling house

The crazy part is Zimmerman's jurors said they were desperately trying to find a way to convict him of murder and put him away for life and they all believed he was a racist piece of shit who deserved life behind bars but they got cucked by the law and couldn't do what they wanted to do based on the evidence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307396)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: aromatic institution

Yes but systemic raycism!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49308275)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 9:14 AM
Author: Mildly autistic preventive strike

Couldnt he just shoot at the ground? Seems like gun was fine but shooting into the actual crowd instead of firing warning shots - not great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307181)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 9:16 AM
Author: abnormal concupiscible area

“Warning shots” are not a thing Mandy, go take another handful of xanax

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307183)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: Awkward New Version Telephone

Warning shots aren’t the orthodoxy anywhere afaik. Scumbag mfes tell you to aim for center of mass or not at all. Also when it’s dark and they’re drunk they might not know it was a warning shot.

The only way warning shots might not get you killed when against a crowd rushing at you is if you mag dump

I also don’t get having the fob but not being able to find the key. But either way if you literally just close the door and lock it I don’t think the frat guys break the glass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307185)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 9:58 AM
Author: big corn cake

Warning shots are flame (and put innocent people in the vicinity at risk)

If you pull a gun, you had better be ready and willing to use lethal force. Ideally you may not have to (lots of the time the other guys will back down and run away once the gun comes out), but you can't count on that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307218)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 9:15 AM
Author: charcoal vigorous location

This is what happens when angry retards encounter each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307182)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 12:13 PM
Author: Mind-boggling house

They should have simply poasted on XO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307385)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 11:35 AM
Author: maroon church building tattoo

Good keed dindu nuffin he was tryna go ta college

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307322)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: greedy garrison

his grandfather's ashes in a necklace pendant saved his life? the bullet hit the pendant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307328)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 11:48 AM
Author: lake glittery range azn

the fact that anyone can buy a gun is wild, this place is like nigeria

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307340)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 11:57 AM
Author: Carmine genital piercing mental disorder

truly insane that people get in fights and suplex their heads into concrete etc & like 10% of the pop understands you can die at the drop of a hat in a street fight

The problem is Women and Liberals have no concept that "street fights" basically have everything on the table in terms of physical consequences

If you chase and attack people and want to hurt people IRL on the street it is simply insane to think your life isnt also on the table imo

Their son died because he wanted to hurt people

Imagine just saying that to this retarded family

"Your son died because he wanted to hurt people" its that simple, if you are doing anything but self defense all bets are off imo and u deserve nothing

He deserved to die & im glad he did, its really that simple, u dont get to have some sort of vague assumption of a societal "safety net" because youre trying to hurt people while unarmed

Really sick of this mindset, if you attack people in the street and die during your retarded melee, you dont deserve a court date even imo

We need more guns in this country to knock some sense into retarded cavemen who want us living in filth where they randomly decide to hit u over the head with a rock because theyre playing status games? Fuck off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307359)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 11:59 AM
Author: unhinged station

CR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307362)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Carmine genital piercing mental disorder

I heard a story of a kid in elementary school getting into his first playground fight, perfectly healthy kid gets suplexed and instantly is a paraplegic for life, in fucking elementary school

people are just retarded children & have a cartoon level understanding of physics and biology

if ppl truly understood how retarded and dangerous the avg person is they would open carry and be NRA gun nuts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307365)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 12:07 PM
Author: Comical deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307370)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 12:08 PM
Author: Carmine genital piercing mental disorder

imagine sending ur kids to an all blk school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307371)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 12:09 PM
Author: unhinged station

That's terrible. The other kid's parents were surely training him to deal with "bullies" and had him prepped to cripple the first kid he had a disagreement with.

Average lib has witnessed a few fights where two untrained people exchange punches for 30sec, and think that runs the gamut of outcomes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307376)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Carmine genital piercing mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307378)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 12:17 PM
Author: Mind-boggling house

Not to mention you can get Charlie Kirk'd by a guy with a knife in seconds. You could be walking down a safe street and it could all be over so fast you have no idea what happened. Knives are extremely dangerous and in some states everyone is carrying one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307394)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 9:34 PM
Author: Awkward New Version Telephone

This is 100% accurate in general but imo they were still frat brothers and therefore only performatively badass and certainly concerned with OCI and potentially C&F. If they were black or Scum they’d all need to die imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49308297)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 12:15 PM
Author: Odious Territorial Stain

For the life of me, I cannot believe

We'd ever die for these sins, he was merely freshman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307390)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 12:56 PM
Author: Passionate police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307454)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 12:58 PM
Author: ungodly public bath

Wrong place, wrong time, your life’s fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49307460)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 9:36 PM
Author: Awkward New Version Telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49308302)



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Date: September 27th, 2025 9:05 PM
Author: pea-brained vermilion office

https://abovethelaw.com/2011/02/breaking-temple-law-student-gerald-ung-found-not-guilty-in-shooting/

Unggggggggg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49308257)



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Date: September 28th, 2025 12:45 AM
Author: titillating lime nursing home laser beams

hard to tell if he's actually guilty or not. Probably not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780457&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=2755525#49308533)