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Any company that does Stock Repurchases is by definition price gouging

You’re essentially saying your margin was SO HIGH from...
naked degenerate
  09/30/24
Price gouging is the practice of raising prices on essential...
Appetizing sandwich
  09/30/24
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Offensive flickering brethren
  10/01/24
who does the board have a fiduciary duty to, exactly?
Very tactful vibrant messiness
  09/30/24
((((Duty)))
naked degenerate
  09/30/24
regardless of what you think the law should be, the board ow...
Aromatic buff ape giraffe
  09/30/24
twist: this doesn't mean what you think it means
Razzmatazz bisexual bawdyhouse pisswyrm
  10/01/24
So you don’t know how markets work or what price gougi...
azure depressive
  09/30/24
Thath not how marketh work! The mises.org dweeb screeched
supple indian lodge
  09/30/24
His biggest mistake is he is conflating profits with price g...
azure depressive
  09/30/24
This is the lsat +1 response.
razzle ruddy death wish property
  09/30/24
What are you thoughts on DIVIDENDS? Should these DIVIDEND...
Bateful toilet seat
  09/30/24
walgreens offering an 11% dividend as it runs into bankruptc...
overrated meetinghouse tank
  09/30/24
Incompetent management man. A lot of these companies tha...
ocher puppy friendly grandma
  09/30/24
No this is Stupid. pretend you’re running a prole busi...
Heady sound barrier dragon
  09/30/24
(Liz Warren)
Offensive flickering brethren
  09/30/24
This is a pretty good parody of how Redditors think, if a li...
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hyperventilating vivacious native
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azure depressive
  09/30/24
Actually, I think it lacks the slightly inopposite and strai...
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grizzly box office jap
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Appetizing sandwich
  09/30/24
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rusted circlehead stage
  09/30/24
u cld pick like 500 things in US economy like that, u can su...
geriatric theater stage reading party
  09/30/24
I have terrible news about GORGEOUS CHINA for you https:/...
Chrome trust fund
  09/30/24
then i support sharebuybacks when china does it cause its ju...
geriatric theater stage reading party
  09/30/24
lmao, tyft
Chrome trust fund
  09/30/24
Buying shares of your own stock because you believe they're ...
Chrome trust fund
  09/30/24
stock buybacks are a tax advantaged form of dividends
Translucent multi-colored feces
  09/30/24
(cope) Just give divvies
Narrow-minded Swashbuckling Trump Supporter Lay
  09/30/24
and pay ordinary income tax rate? lol, no
Translucent multi-colored feces
  09/30/24
Cr they're 180
sick kitchen
  09/30/24
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Aromatic buff ape giraffe
  09/30/24
(Average Kamala Harris voter)
vermilion half-breed
  09/30/24
Stock buybacks are just a way to distribute profits instead ...
passionate nursing home potus
  09/30/24
THEY JUST PRICE IT IN, JERRY!
Trip sickened international law enforcement agency
  09/30/24
"But cap gains are taxed BELOW dividends!" bellowe...
grizzly box office jap
  09/30/24
so operating at a profit means price gouging. but using that...
Aromatic buff ape giraffe
  09/30/24
...
Offensive flickering brethren
  09/30/24
IIRC most companies have discounted stock purchasing for emp...
Pontificating Comical Range
  09/30/24
Redditors HATE stock repurchases
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  09/30/24
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Coral gaming laptop
  09/30/24
Great thread so far
pink twisted brunch
  09/30/24
QED
walnut fighting shitlib
  09/30/24
I think the more intelligent criticism of stock repurchases ...
Claret fortuitous meteor
  09/30/24
That’s fine in principle though - they’re genera...
azure depressive
  10/01/24
There's actually no difference between a share buyback and a...
violent 180 fanboi
  10/01/24
lol ok
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  10/01/24


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Date: September 30th, 2024 9:45 AM
Author: naked degenerate

You’re essentially saying your margin was SO HIGH from higher prices and lower costs that you're now flush with cash. But rather that share that profit with employees through bonuses or reinvent in your core business to reduce costs, you’ll instead lower your outstanding shares to prop up your stock price another few cents.

And Republicans think there is literally nothing wrong here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48145555)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 6:16 PM
Author: Appetizing sandwich

Price gouging is the practice of raising prices on essential goods or services to an unfair or excessively high level, during TIMES OF CRISIS OR AN EMERGENCY, when consumers have limited alternatives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48147541)



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Date: October 1st, 2024 8:34 AM
Author: Offensive flickering brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48149085)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 9:48 AM
Author: Very tactful vibrant messiness

who does the board have a fiduciary duty to, exactly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48145560)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 9:52 AM
Author: naked degenerate

((((Duty)))

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48145574)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 1:42 PM
Author: Aromatic buff ape giraffe

regardless of what you think the law should be, the board owes a fiduciary duty to the shareholders.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48146550)



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Date: October 1st, 2024 8:11 AM
Author: Razzmatazz bisexual bawdyhouse pisswyrm

twist: this doesn't mean what you think it means

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48149030)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 9:49 AM
Author: azure depressive

So you don’t know how markets work or what price gouging is. Cool.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48145562)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 9:54 AM
Author: supple indian lodge

Thath not how marketh work! The mises.org dweeb screeched

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48145580)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 10:05 AM
Author: azure depressive

His biggest mistake is he is conflating profits with price gouging.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48145634)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 12:51 PM
Author: razzle ruddy death wish property

This is the lsat +1 response.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48146306)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 9:56 AM
Author: Bateful toilet seat

What are you thoughts on DIVIDENDS?

Should these DIVIDEND ARISTOCRATS get the GUILLOTINE???

https://www.nasdaq.com/stocks/investing-lists/dividend-aristocrats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48145589)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 9:59 AM
Author: overrated meetinghouse tank

walgreens offering an 11% dividend as it runs into bankruptcy. wtf is up with that



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48145599)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 11:03 AM
Author: ocher puppy friendly grandma

Incompetent management man.

A lot of these companies that have been paying dividends forever lose sight of what it actually is: a portion of their earnings that can’t be better utilized in the business being paid to shareholders.

For companies that have lots of debt or need significant reinvestment, the high dividend is an albatross. The management keeps the dividend high to appease the shareholder base, but they won’t cut it when they need the money in other places - so instead they keep paying it and drain their coffers further in order to keep an arbitrary rating that props their stock price up.

I’ve seen it too many times to count / can’t really comment in this case specifically but it’s a known issue.

This is why many companies are shifting their dividend policy away from a fixed amount to a variable dividend based on FCF or they do a low regular dividend and sometimes pay out large cash amounts after assessing the situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48145839)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 10:03 AM
Author: Heady sound barrier dragon

No this is Stupid. pretend you’re running a prole business, you want to expand your operations so you let a bunch of people give you money in exchange for ownership. Then you successfully expand and make lots of money. You don’t want a bunch of shitheads telling you what to do or demanding dividends or something, so you buy them out.

This also gives you “dry powder” if it the future you need financing, you can issue shares.

Unless you own your company 100% outright, you’re leveraged. Share buybacks reduce leverage. Sometimes you should reduce leverage, sometimes you should increase it.

Source: I’m an Economist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48145627)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 10:12 AM
Author: Offensive flickering brethren

(Liz Warren)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48145673)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 10:16 AM
Author: Jet faggot firefighter site

This is a pretty good parody of how Redditors think, if a little overdone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48145690)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 10:23 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy frozen institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48145707)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 10:29 AM
Author: hairraiser point mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48145716)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 10:30 AM
Author: Offensive flickering brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48145717)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 10:35 AM
Author: Chrome trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48145731)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 10:47 AM
Author: Twinkling painfully honest home codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48145783)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 1:02 PM
Author: hyperventilating vivacious native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48146362)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 1:39 PM
Author: Aromatic buff ape giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48146533)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 2:23 PM
Author: azure depressive



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48146730)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 3:56 PM
Author: Coral gaming laptop

Actually, I think it lacks the slightly inopposite and strained use of an SAT vocabulary word to really nail it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48147031)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 4:16 PM
Author: grizzly box office jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48147115)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 6:17 PM
Author: Appetizing sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48147542)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 6:22 PM
Author: rusted circlehead stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48147549)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 10:25 AM
Author: geriatric theater stage reading party

u cld pick like 500 things in US economy like that, u can summarize all these things by one word: JEWS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48145708)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 10:37 AM
Author: Chrome trust fund

I have terrible news about GORGEOUS CHINA for you

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202403/1308605.shtml

Listed companies in China strengthen share buybacks in a move to stabilize capital market

China's A-share public companies have increased stock buybacks in an effort to shore up returns for their shareholders amid regulatory calls to protect broad investors and promote stability in the market.

On Sunday, up to 20 listed companies announced plans to buy back their shares, setting a new record in terms of the number of new buyback plans released on a single day, the Securities Times reported on Monday.

So far this year, the Shanghai Stock Exchange has announced 521 plans by listed companies to buy back shares and increase stock holdings, surpassing last year's total 405 buyback cases.

Companies listed on the Shenzhen Stock Exchange have disclosed 420 buyback plans, with a total sum of 40.7 billion yuan ($5.67 billion), according to financial data provider Wind.

By repurchasing shares, the companies can reduce the number of outstanding shares, meaning higher earnings per share which will attract more investors, analysts said.

****

I bet the JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWS did this too, eh?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48145737)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 1:06 PM
Author: geriatric theater stage reading party

then i support sharebuybacks when china does it cause its just but when US does it its JEWS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48146372)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 1:38 PM
Author: Chrome trust fund

lmao, tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48146528)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 10:27 AM
Author: Chrome trust fund

Buying shares of your own stock because you believe they're undervalued is no different than stocking up on paper when it's on sale.

Put another way, companies can and do hold stock in other companies all the time-- presumably they think they're getting a good value on it. It's a weird lib fetish that a company can own stock in every company EXCEPT itself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48145711)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 10:35 AM
Author: Translucent multi-colored feces

stock buybacks are a tax advantaged form of dividends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48145733)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 12:23 PM
Author: Narrow-minded Swashbuckling Trump Supporter Lay

(cope)

Just give divvies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48146176)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 2:53 PM
Author: Translucent multi-colored feces

and pay ordinary income tax rate? lol, no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48146840)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 1:33 PM
Author: sick kitchen

Cr they're 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48146506)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 1:40 PM
Author: Aromatic buff ape giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48146537)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 10:46 AM
Author: vermilion half-breed

(Average Kamala Harris voter)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48145774)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 11:33 AM
Author: passionate nursing home potus

Stock buybacks are just a way to distribute profits instead of using dividends and don’t actually increase stock value because that cash is already built into the price

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48145980)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 1:39 PM
Author: Trip sickened international law enforcement agency

THEY JUST PRICE IT IN, JERRY!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48146530)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 4:17 PM
Author: grizzly box office jap

"But cap gains are taxed BELOW dividends!" bellowed the PowerGoy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48147118)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 1:41 PM
Author: Aromatic buff ape giraffe

so operating at a profit means price gouging. but using that cash to increase employee compensation is OK but using it to enrich the owners of the enterprise isn't?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48146544)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 2:43 PM
Author: Offensive flickering brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48146804)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 2:25 PM
Author: Pontificating Comical Range

IIRC most companies have discounted stock purchasing for employees

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48146734)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 4:05 PM
Author: maroon slap-happy scourge upon the earth church building

Redditors HATE stock repurchases

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48147073)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 6:12 PM
Author: Coral gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48147536)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 4:08 PM
Author: pink twisted brunch

Great thread so far

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48147082)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 6:15 PM
Author: walnut fighting shitlib

QED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48147540)



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Date: September 30th, 2024 9:52 PM
Author: Claret fortuitous meteor

I think the more intelligent criticism of stock repurchases is it puts lip gloss on the c-suite compensation.

The issue themselves millions of dollars in stock, the company does meh, so they invest what little profit they have to buying back stock, sto the stock price stays flat - so tehy reward themselves with more stock - and the cycle repeats and repeats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48148203)



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Date: October 1st, 2024 6:42 AM
Author: azure depressive

That’s fine in principle though - they’re generating cash for the company and rewarding themselves with some of that cash.

The problem lately is that during the zero interest rate period they were issuing massive amounts of debt to finance the buybacks. It’s no different than scam artists taking out home loans for straw purchasers and keeping the money for themselves. Any retard can figure out that scam.

Of course none of this has to do with whatever OP is screeching about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48148920)



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Date: October 1st, 2024 8:32 AM
Author: violent 180 fanboi

There's actually no difference between a share buyback and a dividend (ignoring tax impact). Share buybacks simply give the investor the choice whether or not they want to realize the profit and incur a taxable event. The dividend forces it on you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48149075)



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Date: October 1st, 2024 8:33 AM
Author: Razzmatazz bisexual bawdyhouse pisswyrm

lol ok

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603671&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4295921",#48149078)