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Why did Europeans never invent writing, but Mexicans did?

Kinda weird that Euros had to import writing from the Middle...
dun fluffy university newt
  02/05/13
the Mayans were pretty bright, sucks that they got pwned
Violent overrated depressive travel guidebook
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The Spanish dood who burned their library also gave us the o...
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azn's still haven't really discovered writing, they are ...
misunderstood property
  08/11/26
still LOLLERCAUSTING@ cumskins literally believing we use &q...
misunderstood property
  08/11/26
ASIANS USE HIEROGLYPHS DURR DURR
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because race realism and iq fetishism are not science
At-the-ready smoky volcanic crater business firm
  02/05/13
The OP, however, is definitely SCHOLARSHIP
Honey-headed gaping stag film
  02/05/13
Mexicans are a much more intelligent race of humans
Alcoholic Brunch Becky
  02/05/13
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At-the-ready smoky volcanic crater business firm
  02/05/13
Si
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  02/05/13
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runes
Fishy alcoholic weed whacker church building
  02/05/13
"Parent systems: Phoenician"
dun fluffy university newt
  02/05/13
pwned
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  02/05/13
Euros take credit for a lot of shit that they borrowed from ...
Walnut filthy rehab keepsake machete
  02/05/13
Yeah maybe if europeans weren't retards they would have inde...
Brindle Pungent Temple Fat Ankles
  02/05/13
Oh, you mean just like the Mesoamericans? Yeah, exactly.
Racy Metal Fanboi
  02/05/13
link to there being large scale civilization in mesoamerica ...
Brindle Pungent Temple Fat Ankles
  02/05/13
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olmec Stop embarrassing your...
Racy Metal Fanboi
  02/05/13
rude.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olmec#Social_and_political_orga...
Brindle Pungent Temple Fat Ankles
  02/05/13
a) Lack of a priestly caste =/= egalitarian b) You're embar...
Racy Metal Fanboi
  02/05/13
my quote says these places were made up of egalitarian commu...
Brindle Pungent Temple Fat Ankles
  02/05/13
City implies hierarchy! LOL, please, stop getting yourself p...
Racy Metal Fanboi
  02/05/13
so by that standard, the inca weren't civilized? just asking...
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  02/05/13
Yeah, it really makes a lot of anthropologists really confli...
Racy Metal Fanboi
  02/05/13
when i was growing up, it was spelled "quipu" in m...
Flirting locale codepig
  02/05/13
Both are still current as far as I recall
Racy Metal Fanboi
  02/05/13
ty
Flirting locale codepig
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I guess the Japanese don't have civilization since they don'...
Racy Metal Fanboi
  02/05/13
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._military_presence_in_Japan...
Brindle Pungent Temple Fat Ankles
  02/05/13
Can't wait for the day civilization reaches Iceland and Cost...
Racy Metal Fanboi
  02/05/13
europeans have been literate for 2700 years, northern europe...
Brindle Pungent Temple Fat Ankles
  02/05/13
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Honey-headed gaping stag film
  02/05/13
WHAT SCHOLARSHIP! Wrong. Mesoamericans have been literate...
Racy Metal Fanboi
  02/05/13
you realize that the pictograms depicted below are what pass...
Brindle Pungent Temple Fat Ankles
  02/05/13
What's your point? You don't like the way it looks? You're a...
Racy Metal Fanboi
  02/05/13
it's a system of pre-hieroglyphic visual communication, you ...
Brindle Pungent Temple Fat Ankles
  02/05/13
Except you're fucking wrong. It was a syllabary like modern...
Racy Metal Fanboi
  02/05/13
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitovo_inscription
Brindle Pungent Temple Fat Ankles
  02/05/13
You are the one pwning yourself breh. you are arguing with...
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is he a known retard brother.
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There was a "deep thoughts with Assless Chaps" mov...
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"europe" didn't exist, historically. the greeks an...
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yeah this whole idea that europeans are johnny come latelies...
Brindle Pungent Temple Fat Ankles
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europe occupies a strategic position. on the one hand, it's ...
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You are pretty uneducated, which is OK, but stop acting like...
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i disagree somewhat with this... the ice man (ca. 3000 bc), ...
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Metal smelting diffused from Anatolia, and they not only did...
Racy Metal Fanboi
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fair enough. is that the rule in anthro, that you need to ha...
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totally fair. these categories are artificial, and they were...
Racy Metal Fanboi
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yeah, the maya are such an interesting case b/c they really ...
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Weren't the earliest copper smelting furnaces found in Serbi...
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i don't remember the history class where euros borrowed writ...
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(moron)
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Europeans didn't need to invite writing because they borrowe...
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Early Mexicans encountering Spanish conquistadors thought th...
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http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&fo...
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who needs writing when you have gunpowder and iron ore?
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or that very complex and advanced of technologies, the wheel...
Brindle Pungent Temple Fat Ankles
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wut
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Writing is necessary to trade resources with other civs.
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i'm struggling to understand how this is responsive, help me...
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When we saw so many cities and villages built in the water a...
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now quote the part where he talks about how much the aztecs ...
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The Middle East was white at that point. Does Elizabeth Tayl...
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Plenty of Sid Meiers trolling going on ITT.
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Cretan hieroglyphs, second millennium BC?
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(alternate universe where it wasn't white people running shi...
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don't troll me, bro (alternate universe where the archaic...
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didn't a euro monk invent silent reading
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Why is there some weirdo in here FURIOUSLY trolling for Maya...
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It's not trolling, assless chaps was saying retarded bullshi...
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Oh, ok. (gives you a warm blanket)
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(MAF cumskin) Sorry your retarded cumskin brother got pwn...
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calm down Sequoyah.
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ROFL. Not a brown, but OK.
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(MAF nowag)
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with some tax free tobacco.
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The Scandinavians had their runes.
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(self-hating english speaker)
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I find that debates about history focusing on questions like...
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Date: February 5th, 2013 12:33 PM
Author: dun fluffy university newt

Kinda weird that Euros had to import writing from the Middle East as well as concepts such as zero and so on, but the Mayans discovered that shit on their own

Mesoamericans also did performed much more impressive feats of domestication and breeding than the Europeans did. Corn was way more productive than anything the Europeans had (and most of their domesticated crops and livestock came from outside of Europe anyway)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573179)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 12:35 PM
Author: Violent overrated depressive travel guidebook

the Mayans were pretty bright, sucks that they got pwned

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573181)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 8:03 PM
Author: Fishy alcoholic weed whacker church building

The Spanish dood who burned their library also gave us the only book that was useful for deciphering the Mayan script. A Russian cracked the code in the 1950s but no one in America learned about it until after the wall came down

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#50062140)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 7:59 PM
Author: misunderstood property

azn's still haven't really discovered writing, they are just using a bunch of hieroglyphs

Date: February 26th, 2025 9:28 PM

Author: hank_scorpio

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5536032&forum_id=2#48697467

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#50062115)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 8:00 PM
Author: misunderstood property

still LOLLERCAUSTING@ cumskins literally believing we use "hieroglyphs"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#50062119)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 8:17 PM
Author: misunderstood property

ASIANS USE HIEROGLYPHS DURR DURR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#50062221)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 6:53 PM
Author: misunderstood property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#50064394)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 7:47 PM
Author: misunderstood property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#50066444)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 8:03 PM
Author: misunderstood property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#50066493)



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Date: August 17th, 2026 10:33 PM
Author: nyuug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#50074556)



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Date: August 18th, 2026 7:59 PM
Author: nyuug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#50076608)



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Date: August 20th, 2026 8:15 PM
Author: nyuug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#50081595)



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Date: August 23rd, 2026 5:48 PM
Author: nyuug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#50087757)



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Date: August 23rd, 2026 9:57 PM
Author: nyuug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#50088212)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 12:35 PM
Author: At-the-ready smoky volcanic crater business firm

because race realism and iq fetishism are not science

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573185)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 1:39 PM
Author: Honey-headed gaping stag film

The OP, however, is definitely SCHOLARSHIP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573569)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 12:36 PM
Author: Alcoholic Brunch Becky

Mexicans are a much more intelligent race of humans



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573193)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 12:37 PM
Author: At-the-ready smoky volcanic crater business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573198)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 12:52 PM
Author: high-end knife

Si

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573304)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 12:37 PM
Author: Fishy alcoholic weed whacker church building

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573201)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 12:38 PM
Author: dun fluffy university newt

"Parent systems: Phoenician"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573209)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 1:08 PM
Author: Doobsian azn nursing home

pwned



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573387)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 1:13 PM
Author: Walnut filthy rehab keepsake machete

Euros take credit for a lot of shit that they borrowed from the middle east -- civilization, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573406)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 1:20 PM
Author: Brindle Pungent Temple Fat Ankles

Yeah maybe if europeans weren't retards they would have independently come up with a civilization totally independent of contact from the rest of the world, just like... uhhh... fuck, what was that place where advanced civilization developed 2000 years ago independent of contact with other large populations? I'm sure it exists but it's lost on me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573439)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:33 PM
Author: Racy Metal Fanboi

Oh, you mean just like the Mesoamericans? Yeah, exactly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573894)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:33 PM
Author: Brindle Pungent Temple Fat Ankles

link to there being large scale civilization in mesoamerica 2000 years ago?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573898)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:36 PM
Author: Racy Metal Fanboi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olmec

Stop embarrassing yourself. It's obvious you know nothing about history.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573915)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:37 PM
Author: thriller lemon athletic conference institution

rude.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573922)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:39 PM
Author: Brindle Pungent Temple Fat Ankles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olmec#Social_and_political_organization

"Nonetheless, Olmec society is thought to lack many of the institutions of later civilizations, such as a standing army or priestly caste.[81] And there is no evidence that San Lorenzo or La Venta controlled, even during their heyday, all of the Olmec heartland.[82] There is some doubt, for example, that La Venta controlled even Arroyo Sonso, only some 35 kilometres (22 mi) away.[83] Studies of the Tuxtla Mountain settlements, some 60 kilometres (37 mi) away, indicate that this area was composed of more or less egalitarian communities outside the control of lowland centers.[84]"

You realize that small egalitarian communities with no standing army or organized religion typically aren't counted as civilizations by anthropologists, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573927)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:44 PM
Author: Racy Metal Fanboi

a) Lack of a priestly caste =/= egalitarian

b) You're embarrassing yourself again. The traditional hallmark of civilization according to anthropologists is writing, and the secondary hallmark is cities. Have you ever taken an anthro class?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573948)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:46 PM
Author: Brindle Pungent Temple Fat Ankles

my quote says these places were made up of egalitarian communities, and 'city' implies hierarchy. ergo...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573961)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:47 PM
Author: Racy Metal Fanboi

City implies hierarchy! LOL, please, stop getting yourself pwned. Please, for the love of god.

Also, that part of your link is talking about a settlement outside the city's control, you brain-damged retard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573970)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:50 PM
Author: Flirting locale codepig

so by that standard, the inca weren't civilized? just asking, i really have no idea

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573986)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:53 PM
Author: Racy Metal Fanboi

Yeah, it really makes a lot of anthropologists really conflicted, because they had a state and advanced material culture in other ways. Some people argue khipu counts, but this hasn't been substantiated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22574007)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:55 PM
Author: Flirting locale codepig

when i was growing up, it was spelled "quipu" in my history book... is that a spanish transcription that is now deprecated/considered inaccurate?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22574012)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:56 PM
Author: Racy Metal Fanboi

Both are still current as far as I recall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22574014)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 3:00 PM
Author: Flirting locale codepig

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22574031)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:45 PM
Author: Racy Metal Fanboi

I guess the Japanese don't have civilization since they don't have a standing army!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573957)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:47 PM
Author: Brindle Pungent Temple Fat Ankles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._military_presence_in_Japan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573969)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:50 PM
Author: Racy Metal Fanboi

Can't wait for the day civilization reaches Iceland and Costa Rica...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573985)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 1:14 PM
Author: Brindle Pungent Temple Fat Ankles

europeans have been literate for 2700 years, northern europeans for 2000, the earliest evidence of a mayan writing system is from like 1500 years ago. also, maya script is a form of hierogliphs, which is not real writing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573411)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 1:40 PM
Author: Honey-headed gaping stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573578)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:32 PM
Author: Racy Metal Fanboi

WHAT SCHOLARSHIP!

Wrong. Mesoamericans have been literate for 2900 years. Northern Europeans? At most 1900 years, and stolen from Southern Europeans who stole it from Middle Easterners.

www.nytimes.com/2013/02/06/world/middleeast/obama-to-visit-israel-in-spring.html?hp

Mesoamerican writing is definitely real writing, as real as Chinese writing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573893)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:36 PM
Author: Brindle Pungent Temple Fat Ankles

you realize that the pictograms depicted below are what passed for "independently developed mesoamerican writing systems," right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Palenque_glyphs-edit1.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573918)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:40 PM
Author: Racy Metal Fanboi

What's your point? You don't like the way it looks? You're a massive moron. It's just as advanced a writing system as Chinese logograms. In fact, the Mayan system was more akin to modern Japanese writing, since it included both logograms AND a syllabary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573931)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:45 PM
Author: Brindle Pungent Temple Fat Ankles

it's a system of pre-hieroglyphic visual communication, you can't use those kinds of language systems to convey grammar, indicate pronounciation, or do anything else a written langugage is supposed to do.

also, if you want to count that kind of shit as writing, there are tons of undeciphered european scripts from before the arrival of phoenician script in europe, such as this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitovo_inscription

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573954)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:47 PM
Author: Racy Metal Fanboi

Except you're fucking wrong. It was a syllabary like modern Japanese Hiragana you idiot. Stop getting yourself pwned.

http://www.ancientscripts.com/images/maya_syllabary_1.gif

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573964)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:58 PM
Author: Brindle Pungent Temple Fat Ankles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitovo_inscription

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22574027)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:58 PM
Author: passionate trump supporter legend

You are the one pwning yourself breh.

you are arguing with assless chaps.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22574028)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 3:00 PM
Author: Racy Metal Fanboi

is he a known retard brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22574030)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 3:07 PM
Author: passionate trump supporter legend

There was a "deep thoughts with Assless Chaps" movement last year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22574056)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 1:14 PM
Author: Flirting locale codepig

"europe" didn't exist, historically. the greeks and romans were part of a mediterranean/near-eastern complex that included the earliest farmers and the first writing systems. it would have been weird if the greeks and romans had discovered any of that stuff on their own since those things were cultural commonplaces in their milieu before they emerged as distinct societies

the greeks didn't invent 0 but they did invent calculus (calculation via infinitesimals) and steam engines and the antikythera mechanism and stuff, so i think they're still ahead

once greek and roman culture had diffused to northen europe, it catalyzed a round of ethnogenesis in northern europe that resulted in part in the modern european ethnicities -- french, british, dutch, etc., all of which came into being within the last ~1200 years (you could argue the french were earlier, but it took a while for the franks, gallo-romans, etc to become "french" in any meaningful sense)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573412)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 1:18 PM
Author: Brindle Pungent Temple Fat Ankles

yeah this whole idea that europeans are johnny come latelies to civilization is retarded, there was a european civilization before christian civilization, jesus christ. also, the earliest stone monuments in the world are in europe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573431)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 1:24 PM
Author: Flirting locale codepig

europe occupies a strategic position. on the one hand, it's shitty land on the whole; on the other, it's the natural crossroads of the middle east, central asia and africa -- just look at the waves of central asian invaders, everything from aryans to near-eastern early farmers right down to ottomans as recently as the 17th century

northern europe has always had a fairly advanced level of material culture, like with metallurgy and writing and stuff, but was such shitty, unproductive land that state formation still wasn't complete in some parts of it 1,000 years back. as for the med basin, the western med was hick territory for a long time, but there was always a degree of civilization there, too

the achievements of the maya are pretty impressive considering how isolated the americas were, beyond that you can't compare them to the layers and layers of old world civilizations going back to the dawn of history

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573464)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:35 PM
Author: Racy Metal Fanboi

You are pretty uneducated, which is OK, but stop acting like you know anything. Even though there was European civ before christian civ, it still came THOUSANDS OF YEARS after civilization in Egypt, China, and Mesopotamia.

Idiot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573910)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:49 PM
Author: Flirting locale codepig

i disagree somewhat with this... the ice man (ca. 3000 bc), e.g., didn't come from a city, but he was part of a sophisticated material culture that had metal smelting and economic specialization in manufacturing. given the low agricultural productivity of northern europe prior to the invention of the moldboard plow, that was pretty decent

no one is arguing that the first cities arose in europe. on the other hand, it's also not true that europeans were degenerate barbarians until 1400 ad, as a lot of people kind of unreflectively believe today

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573980)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:52 PM
Author: Racy Metal Fanboi

Metal smelting diffused from Anatolia, and they not only didn't have cities, but didn't have writing, geometry, states, or advanced mathematics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22574000)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 3:00 PM
Author: Flirting locale codepig

fair enough. is that the rule in anthro, that you need to have writing, cities, etc. to be non-barbarians? i'm sure that there's a good reason for it if it is

by that standard, northern europeans were barbaric well into the Christian era. but it seems funny to me to put, e.g., saga-era icelanders with their boatbuilding, metalworking, chronicle literature etc. on the same footing as historyless hunter-gatherers who follow the herds hucking rocks at them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22574029)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 3:01 PM
Author: Racy Metal Fanboi

totally fair. these categories are artificial, and they were obviously not on the same level. i was more reacting against the people denigrating the accomplishments of the Mesoamericans, which were impressive compared to Northern Europeans at the same time period and came about independently.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22574034)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 3:09 PM
Author: Flirting locale codepig

yeah, the maya are such an interesting case b/c they really seem to have come from nowhere and to have left few progeny -- seems like they should have been the sumerians of the americas considering how far out in front they were culturally, but i guess they didn't have much of an edge in material or military culture. my understanding, and correct me if i'm wrong, is that the mayan inheritance lay totally fallow until certain curious spaniards started digging stuff up, and thereby inadvertently preserving some sources for scientific anthro & archaeology to deal with once they emerged

the maya are also interesting b/c their culture was so alien and frankly bugfuck crazy-seeming. brb the king's main job is to draw sacred blood from his foreskin, wtf. i guess they'd probably see us the same way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22574065)



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Date: February 6th, 2013 8:11 AM
Author: Fantasy-prone cuck

Weren't the earliest copper smelting furnaces found in Serbia? I think that's one area where Europeans were actually somewhat ahead of middle easterners, although iron smelting is a much more complicated process and was definitely present in the middle east a few hundred years before making it to europe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22579159)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 1:21 PM
Author: Anal embarrassed to the bone chapel

i don't remember the history class where euros borrowed writing from the middle east. i think it was just invented 5000 years ago and spread organically.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573444)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:33 PM
Author: Racy Metal Fanboi

(moron)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573897)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:27 PM
Author: burgundy out-of-control garrison therapy

Europeans didn't need to invite writing because they borrowed it from other civilizations.

Mayan writing was pretty fucking primitive, it was basically pictograms meaning it was where writing in the rest of the world was around 2500 BC.

And if Mesoamerican civilization was so great and highly developed, how come they hadn't even invented the wheel yet by the time Europeans arrived in 1500?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573866)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:40 PM
Author: Fishy alcoholic weed whacker church building

Early Mexicans encountering Spanish conquistadors thought the doods riding horses were one single animal. It didn't occur to them that that could be a guy sitting on the back of animal, they thought it was like a centaur or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573934)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:52 PM
Author: At-the-ready smoky volcanic crater business firm

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2#22573964

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573999)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:37 PM
Author: french field

who needs writing when you have gunpowder and iron ore?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573921)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:40 PM
Author: Brindle Pungent Temple Fat Ankles

or that very complex and advanced of technologies, the wheel!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573933)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:42 PM
Author: french field

wut

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573942)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:46 PM
Author: Fishy alcoholic weed whacker church building

Writing is necessary to trade resources with other civs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573960)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:52 PM
Author: Flirting locale codepig

i'm struggling to understand how this is responsive, help me out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573998)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:51 PM
Author: At-the-ready smoky volcanic crater business firm

When we saw so many cities and villages built in the water and other great towns on dry land we were amazed and said that it was like the enchantments (...) on account of the great towers and cues and buildings rising from the water, and all built of masonry. And some of our soldiers even asked whether the things that we saw were not a dream? (...) I do not know how to describe it, seeing things as we did that had never been heard of or seen before, not even dreamed about. ”

—Bernal Díaz del Castillo, The Conquest of New Spain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22573994)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 2:54 PM
Author: Flirting locale codepig

now quote the part where he talks about how much the aztecs loved cannibalism

diaz makes for weird reading in general, i wasn't expecting him to talk up montezuma so much

also, cortez was a straight gangster. i love the part where they're retreating from the noche triste, like a few days after iirc, and they run into another spanish army sent from cuba and just fucking roll them over even though they're outnumbered like 6 to 1 and just got their own asses badly beat a few days before

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22574009)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 3:06 PM
Author: Trip Boiling Water

The Middle East was white at that point. Does Elizabeth Taylor look Arab?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22574051)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 3:09 PM
Author: Wonderful Deep Trailer Park Shitlib

Plenty of Sid Meiers trolling going on ITT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22574062)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 3:16 PM
Author: Bearded ultramarine school

Cretan hieroglyphs, second millennium BC?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22574097)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 3:21 PM
Author: Bearded ultramarine school

(alternate universe where it wasn't white people running shit in Egypt)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22574112)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 3:23 PM
Author: Flirting locale codepig

don't troll me, bro

(alternate universe where the archaic proto-finnic type fused with aryans, paleo-iberians, who the fuck knows what else and neolithic farmers from the levant and backwashed into pre-dynastic egypt)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22574119)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 11:13 PM
Author: misanthropic buff hospital candlestick maker

didn't a euro monk invent silent reading

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22577792)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 11:16 PM
Author: Charcoal swashbuckling twinkling uncleanness goyim

cumskins basically have had a good 500 years and they only succeeded by being incredibly violent and imperialistic... now they are becoming extinct and nigs and browns and chinks are taking over.. lol at u faggots

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22577804)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 11:34 PM
Author: Vigorous House Mood

if you think europeans are bad, you're in for a big surprise when we're gone bro

*whites go extinct*

*azns still blaming whites for their inability to get laid*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22577912)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 11:18 PM
Author: Confused incel casino

Why is there some weirdo in here FURIOUSLY trolling for Mayans?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22577817)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 11:19 PM
Author: Racy Metal Fanboi

It's not trolling, assless chaps was saying retarded bullshit. I hate when people who don't know shit about history go around spewing stuff that's just wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22577822)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 11:20 PM
Author: Confused incel casino

Oh, ok.

(gives you a warm blanket)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22577832)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 11:21 PM
Author: Racy Metal Fanboi

(MAF cumskin)

Sorry your retarded cumskin brother got pwned by facts over and over again. He makes your whole race look retarded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22577836)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 11:22 PM
Author: Confused incel casino

calm down Sequoyah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22577840)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 11:23 PM
Author: Racy Metal Fanboi

ROFL. Not a brown, but OK.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22577846)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 11:35 PM
Author: Vigorous House Mood

(MAF nowag)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22577917)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 11:39 PM
Author: Confused incel casino

•draws an angry bird, maybe an angry monkey to pound the point home. Also a mean spider.•

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22577953)



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Date: February 5th, 2013 11:47 PM
Author: marvelous corner coffee pot

I rate this thread as Listerine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22578010)



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Date: February 6th, 2013 1:26 AM
Author: Heady drunken ladyboy stage

with some tax free tobacco.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22578787)



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Date: February 6th, 2013 7:58 AM
Author: bistre effete principal's office private investor

The Scandinavians had their runes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22579142)



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Date: February 6th, 2013 8:17 AM
Author: bespoke forum

(self-hating english speaker)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22579171)



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Date: February 6th, 2013 8:26 AM
Author: Fantasy-prone cuck

I find that debates about history focusing on questions like 'who achieved 'x' sign of advanced civilization first' have a tendency to degenerate into nationalistic type disputes over fairly inconsequential things.

As somebody mentioned above, when we think of a 'civilization' we usually think of cities, but you can have cities without much in the way of a materially advanced culture, and a fairly advanced material culture without cities.

Europeans do appear to have been somewhat behind many other parts of the world in terms of urbanization and literacy, though they were also pretty far ahead in terms of metal production and certain other manufacturing techniques like shipbuilding; the first copper furnaces, for example, were found at a site in Serbia, and the oldest smelted gold alloys were found in bulgaria.

I think the past 500 years of western supremacy have been somewhat of an anomaly in the sense that you don't usually find one civilization that's just miles ahead of the others across every organizational, material and 'intellectual' axis, it's usually more like different regions have different advantages and disadvantages, derived largely from the landscape they find themselves siutated on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22579184)



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Date: February 6th, 2013 8:38 AM
Author: Talented Useless Brakes

tell us moar about how tribes are always at war like dirty savages, mr. diamond

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2176255&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4593694#22579196)