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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:09 PM Author: deranged hunting ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155615) |
Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:11 PM Author: bateful mexican (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155626) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:12 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Fragrant Sweet Tailpipe Corner become a religious zealot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155633) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:13 PM Author: Fighting indian lodge Megapoasting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155637) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:17 PM Author: azure gay wizard theatre 1) Cold Turkey 2) AA 3) Rehab either followed by AA or not
Ways that are not good: 1) Moderation 2) Naltrexone 3) Antabuse 4) Taking breaks, such as Dry January
The singular difference between real alcoholics and heavy drinkers is that alcoholics can, over any length of time, drink zero or drink more. A heavy drinker can, over time, drink zero, drink less, drink the same, or drink more. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:18 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Fragrant Sweet Tailpipe Corner this is low level AA thinking (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155657) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:19 PM Author: azure gay wizard theatre Among people who have serious problems I’ve seen them successfully recover only by the first three methods. Just quit; quit with help from AA; go to rehab and choose to do AA or not do AA (in other words the only options are cold turkey or AA and rehab just helps you get started on that.). What are some other methods you’ve seen where the person actually stays sober for five years or more?
I’ve never seen long term sobriety achieved through drugs alone. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:21 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Fragrant Sweet Tailpipe Corner Yes because this is what they teach in AA and you are clearly an AA cultist. There is no categorical difference between an alcoholic and a heavy drinker. that's a made up distinction. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155665) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:22 PM Author: azure gay wizard theatre Are you saying there’s no difference between a heavy drinker who can stop and a heavy drinker who can’t stop? Because alcoholics can’t stop - that’s the defining characteristic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155673) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:23 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Fragrant Sweet Tailpipe Corner i don't know what "can't stop" means. Do you mean they continue to drink? So the difference between an alcoholic and a heavy drinker is the former continues to drink and the latter doesn't? If that's true, then the latter is not a heavy drinker, since they don't continue. Your distinction is a fraud. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155681) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:25 PM Author: azure gay wizard theatre No, the difference is the compulsion. It happens all the time that a heavy drinker gets a DWI and stops drinking until they’re off probation. The alcoholic gets a DWI and continues to drink, even when they don’t want to. There are lots of alcoholics with five or more DWIs - they cannot stop themselves.
The heavy drinker can start up again and then quit again. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:29 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Fragrant Sweet Tailpipe Corner Not buying it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155705) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:26 PM Author: azure gay wizard theatre Can’t stop means continued use even in the face of known adverse consequences coupled with a desire to stop. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155694) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:30 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Fragrant Sweet Tailpipe Corner Meh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155711) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:41 PM Author: indigo angry associate thats just poor decisionmaking and lack of willpower. as if they dont have control over their movements to get in the car and go get more alcohol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155766) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 3:17 PM Author: azure gay wizard theatre That’s what addiction is — lack of power (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155940) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 3:19 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Fragrant Sweet Tailpipe Corner no its just a desire for a thing. don't over complicate it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155954) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 3:24 PM Author: azure gay wizard theatre It’s a set of competing desires (drink, not drink) where the substance always wins out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155980) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 3:29 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Fragrant Sweet Tailpipe Corner Yeah that's clearly true and should be the basis of any further thinking about "substance" "use" "disorder" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155997) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 5:56 PM Author: carmine anal principal's office You shld ease off (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48156563) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:40 PM Author: indigo angry associate the only difference is the heavy drinker who can't stop actually can stop they just lack the willpower that the heavy drinker who can stop has. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155762) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:41 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Fragrant Sweet Tailpipe Corner Or they like alcohol more. Or they hate their life more.
There are simple explanations that don't hand wave at "compulsions" |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:52 PM Author: indigo angry associate AA teaches them to internalize the compulsion theory (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155806) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:52 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Fragrant Sweet Tailpipe Corner AA is dumb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155808) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:24 PM Author: indigo angry associate why not the medications? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155685) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 3:18 PM Author: azure gay wizard theatre With Antabuse you just ween yourself off for a few days and with naltrexone you just drink more. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155947) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 5:01 PM Author: Sepia vigorous keepsake machete so if i take breaks(doing “dry january” is backwards and satanic btw) and never get worse when i start again i’m not an alcoholic? phew. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48156337) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2024 7:21 PM Author: claret nudist church building genital piercing im glad aa exists and can convince some people to stop drinking but this distinction is ridiculous.
i doubt many, if anyone, drank progressively more every single day before declaring themselves an alcoholic and never drinking again. did you? im sure before going to as you had attempts at tapering or taking a break that were somewhat successful. you certainly didn't consume more ethanol in an unbroken upward trend until you quit.
what happens when an alcoholic relpases? they don't consume the most alcohol they've ever consumed before and continue that trend until they quit again. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 3:16 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Fragrant Sweet Tailpipe Corner I'd rather see .5% of these people die and 80% of them become psychedellia cultists than see them go into AA and develop a narrow minded alcohol is poison attitude to compensate for their ruinous life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155922) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 3:22 PM Author: azure gay wizard theatre From the big book of AA: Here are some of the methods we have tried: Drinking beer only, limiting the number of drinks, never drinking alone, never drinking in the morning, drinking only at home, NEVER HAVING IT IN THE HOUSE, never drinking during business hours, drinking only at parties, switching from scotch to brandy, drinking only natural wines, agreeing to resign if ever drunk on the job, taking a trip, not taking a trip, swearing off forever (with and without a solemn oath), taking more physical exercise, reading inspirational books, going to health farms and sanitariums, accepting voluntary commitment to asylums - we could increase the list ad infinitum. -p. 34 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155967) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 3:25 PM Author: indigo angry associate so what is the solution of AA if none of those things work? attend meetings? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155987) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 3:27 PM Author: azure gay wizard theatre The 12 steps are basically ego deflation, confession, restitution and service work. Plus faith in a power greater than yourself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48155993) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 3:29 PM Author: razzmatazz school AA is BS. most people just grow out of the addiction (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48156002) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 4:32 PM Author: Erotic unholy station community account “Alcoholism” and other addictions become problems because they take over your life. The best way to get over an addiction is to get back to a disciplined way of life where you’re focused on setting and attaining goals and other things in your life than the addiction. The worst way is to just obsess about the it and go down some hate spiral. Once you have a balanced life you don’t even want it anymore and wonder how the addiction even happened. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4942357",#48156221) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2024 10:59 AM Author: Elite vivacious degenerate You have to decide.
Then cold turkey.
Find a new hobby. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2024 11:27 AM Author: turquoise heady garrison giraffe beats me
been battling it for around 15 years
have had stretches of sobriety, but i always go back
life is better, yet seems so boring, without it
my current gf is a heavy drinker, which doesn't help at all
i try to stick to light beer only, which makes the withdrawals easier to get through, but i've gained almost 20 lbs in 4 months from it
trying to go nodrink today. so far, so good after about 12 straight days of drinking & cutting down the last 2 days
need to lose the weight and get back to my exercise routine. drinking ruins both
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