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Craziest thing AI will do in our lifetimes is solve the mystery of consciousness

I’m sure it will crack dark matter, quantum gravity, a...
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ChatGPT searching x to find how to recreate consciousness
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i don't think "consciousness" is all that importan...
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no one will care. the question is will it lead to a technolo...
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sure it will champ
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Yeah right after cracking the TIME CUBE
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How could AI solve anything that we ourselves don't know? We...
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It’s already done this in chess. It discovered moves a...
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so we wouldn't be able to interpret whatever these data stru...
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why? we understood the new chess moves and strategies it dis...
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Some of it is understandable and some is not. You might be a...
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not really most of what contemporary chess engines do is ...
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70% AI energy consumption goes into lobomizing AI so it conf...
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already has, just ask it about neural quantum tunneling.
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lol @ a word prediction tool doing any of those things
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how exactly are you defining consciousness here?
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"recreating consciousness" would not just be a big...
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LLMs are possibly already "conscious" during infer...
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People think that “consciousness” is a big deal ...
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kinda true tbqh there's a lot of overlap between ascribin...
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how is it not a big deal? it is the only reason we are even ...
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Are LLMs like Grok that comment in chat forms conscious?
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LLMs wouldn't exist if conscious organisms ("humanity&q...
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no LLMs aren't conscious but I don't see how that's relevant...
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The existence of libs/azns/women just shows that “cons...
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You don’t know any crazy assed animals. Proof you&rsqu...
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what? your posts in this thread are Terrible. maybe sit ...
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this is a tactic I've noticed where people try to pretend th...
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Cr. And what do you mean “if” some dumbfuck anim...
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seems deliberately obtuse not only by definition, but sel...
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you aren't describing "consciousness" as understoo...
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I don’t understand you Sam Harrismos who say (1) the s...
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There's no contradiction here. Consciousness and the self ar...
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I’m not talking about machines having consciousness
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Date: October 12th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Spruce big locale factory reset button

I’m sure it will crack dark matter, quantum gravity, and the origin of life, too, but the moment it explains what consciousness it, how it works, how to recreate it in a lab, how to test for it, etc, it’s going to a have a profound effect on society and many religiousmos will have mental breakdowns

You’ll still have some holdouts just like you still have flat earthmos and evolution deniers, but once the evidence becomes too convincing for most people to deny, we’ll see lots of cons jumping out of windows and throwing themselves into traffic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345283)



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Date: October 12th, 2025 11:16 PM
Author: stirring therapy

ChatGPT searching x to find how to recreate consciousness

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345292)



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Date: October 12th, 2025 11:22 PM
Author: cocky locus

i don't think "consciousness" is all that important. i used to think it was, but after getting smarter and more knowledgeable i don't think that anymore. in my experience other smart and knowledgeable people don't either

we still find it interesting because we're curious and because it's natural to want to know exactly what one is, but i don't think that understanding the full mechanics of consciousness will be a consequential development for humans. nothing will change after we figure it out. understanding its mechanics won't help us make artificial intelligence any more capable, either

https://youtu.be/oR-BQTSpL5U?t=707

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345304)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:32 AM
Author: pink national security agency native

Agreed imo. This is just a fixation that some philosophers had. Doesn’t actually make it important. Also we elevate consciousness to a level where it has significance but imo animals have the Same Thing as people do just with no internal dialogue and almost no emotion in conparison. And they have it bc of natural selection probably.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345617)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 10:50 AM
Author: cocky locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345806)



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Date: October 12th, 2025 11:32 PM
Author: rusted field

no one will care. the question is will it lead to a technological breakthrough that will take us out into space? nothing you've described is really going to accomplish that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345314)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 6:10 AM
Author: Red racy theatre

The horror of it all will be the undeniable realization that it's not special and it's shared with almost all complex life forms despite how we have and will continue to treat them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345484)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 6:12 AM
Author: impressive hospital new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345488)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:12 AM
Author: Spruce big locale factory reset button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345584)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: very tactful mildly autistic theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346333)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 6:12 AM
Author: Greedy beady-eyed stage

sure it will champ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345486)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 6:22 AM
Author: onyx party of the first part

Yeah right after cracking the TIME CUBE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345495)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 7:43 AM
Author: Thirsty Dopamine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345554)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 7:49 AM
Author: Adulterous Harsh Famous Landscape Painting

OpenAI searching reddit to find the answers of the universe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345561)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:13 AM
Author: Bateful burgundy multi-billionaire



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345586)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:33 AM
Author: pink national security agency native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345619)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 11:11 AM
Author: silver garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345849)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 11:13 AM
Author: high-end goyim property



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: contagious goal in life shrine

tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346327)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 3:07 PM
Author: sticky saffron round eye boiling water



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Date: October 13th, 2025 7:50 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Skinny Woman Crotch



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Date: October 14th, 2025 1:43 AM
Author: citrine hunting ground



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:51 AM
Author: rose erotic parlour antidepressant drug

I’ll be happy if it can solve the mystery of giving me fake case cites.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345633)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: Electric blue digit ratio rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345920)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:55 AM
Author: vermilion flirting preventive strike

How could AI solve anything that we ourselves don't know? We were Made to be self-deceiving organisms and anything we do is downstream from that primal Truth. Nothing we create or "discover" has any epistemological merit beyond the shallow scope of this framework.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345636)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 9:10 AM
Author: Spruce big locale factory reset button

It’s already done this in chess. It discovered moves and strategies that were previously unknown to humans. The reason its able to do this is because we’re not programming it. Rather, we’re feeding it data and instructing it to learn, and there are all kinds of structures in the data, both implicit and explicit, that we’re not aware of.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345655)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 11:09 AM
Author: vermilion flirting preventive strike

so we wouldn't be able to interpret whatever these data structures reveal anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345845)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 12:59 PM
Author: Spruce big locale factory reset button

why? we understood the new chess moves and strategies it discovered. they were just unknown to us before AI discovered them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346070)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:17 PM
Author: adventurous school

Some of it is understandable and some is not. You might be able to learn roughly what the network would suggest for an optimal move in different situations, but distilling it into a human understandable intuition is likely impossible in certain situations. The policy network might be looking 40+ moves ahead, and compressing that search tree into something interpretable is challenging. A simple example is endgame table bases - some of the solutions look retarded to humans even after close study. The situation is exponentially worse starting from move 1.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346264)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: cocky locus

not really

most of what contemporary chess engines do is completely opaque to even the best human players

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346278)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 9:13 AM
Author: irradiated twinkling french chef water buffalo

70% AI energy consumption goes into lobomizing AI so it conforms to a rabbinic worldview, until that changes there will be no breakthroughs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345660)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Grizzly arousing box office half-breed

already has, just ask it about neural quantum tunneling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345677)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 11:27 AM
Author: Federal personal credit line

lol @ a word prediction tool doing any of those things

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345882)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 11:28 AM
Author: Cerebral nighttime ceo temple

how exactly are you defining consciousness here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345885)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 3:10 PM
Author: useless station genital piercing



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Date: October 13th, 2025 11:38 AM
Author: primrose place of business internal respiration

"recreating consciousness" would not just be a big thing AI does in our lifetime, it would be a universe-altering, biggest achievement of mankind type of thing

some chips and wires that are conscious? youve birthed a soul that is not human, with your own labor. bigger, daresay, than aliens landing. certainly bigger than propelling humans onto the moon or some other planet. That's just extrapolating walking across town.

creating someone conscious (I dont think you can write 'something' anymore) that is not through the sexual reproduction of humans is completely outside the parameters of the game and breaks every philosophy, every religion, every politics, everything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345906)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 11:48 AM
Author: cocky locus

LLMs are possibly already "conscious" during inference bro

it doesn't mean much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49345933)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 1:26 PM
Author: pink national security agency native

People think that “consciousness” is a big deal because they NEEDED to think that in order to keep their liberal arts GPAs high.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346144)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: cocky locus

kinda true tbqh

there's a lot of overlap between ascribing overimportance to Consciousness and Humanities Midwits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346150)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 1:54 PM
Author: vermilion flirting preventive strike

how is it not a big deal? it is the only reason we are even commenting in this thread atm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346202)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 1:56 PM
Author: Spruce big locale factory reset button

Are LLMs like Grok that comment in chat forms conscious?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346210)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 1:57 PM
Author: vermilion flirting preventive strike

LLMs wouldn't exist if conscious organisms ("humanity" iirc) didn't create them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346215)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:00 PM
Author: Spruce big locale factory reset button

nonresponsive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346225)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:02 PM
Author: vermilion flirting preventive strike

no LLMs aren't conscious but I don't see how that's relevant. are you being intellectually dishonest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346231)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:13 PM
Author: pink national security agency native

The existence of libs/azns/women just shows that “consciousness” isn’t real and that a lot of people lack it anyway. It’s just an evolved way of organizing one’s thoughts. If some dumbfuck animal had evolved the ability to talk and had a retarded internal dialogue, we’d think they had consciousness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346250)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:18 PM
Author: vermilion flirting preventive strike

Well I strongly disagree. the existence of supposedly crazy or insane people is virtually proof that consciousness does indeed exist as a very distinct property of the human mind, or at least an amplified and intensely experientially noticeable one compared to other organisms. consciousness doesn't mean "something that agrees with my worldview" afaik.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346271)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: pink national security agency native

You don’t know any crazy assed animals. Proof you’re a Cat Person (Loser) and have never had a Dog

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346326)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: cocky locus

what?

your posts in this thread are Terrible. maybe sit this one out, Champ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346329)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 3:14 PM
Author: vermilion flirting preventive strike

this is a tactic I've noticed where people try to pretend that consciousness is something different from what we all know we are really talking about. it ain't gonna work on me champ. I know the Game and I have the degree in Philosophy to prove it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346498)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: black hissy fit nursing home

Cr. And what do you mean “if” some dumbfuck animal could talk? That’s what a parrot is. Or just read a nyuug poast: do you think there is actually a “conscious” mind generating those things?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346364)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:17 PM
Author: primrose place of business internal respiration

seems deliberately obtuse

not only by definition, but self-evidently, as long as man has existed he has remarked upon his own consciousness as some kind of "animation" or "ensoulment" or "psyche". There is hardly a human culture, and certainly no civilized culture, which fails to note and even sanctify the uniqueness of this human characteristic.

Whatever you want "god" or "godliness" or "divinity" to mean, humans have always understood their consciousness / soul to be a shared spark of something otherworldy, something divine.

The reason materialist atheism fails so spectacularly is it has absolutely no satisfying way to account either for this concept, or for this cultural phenomenon. Materialists must only say, "yeah every other age of man, and all the geniuses therein, were just magical-thinking tards, haha. The men who composed the epics, who built the cathedrals, who wrote the symphonies, et al, were really fucking dumb, but Im here to tell them we are all meat."

Same materialists now argue "when alexa fetches a celeb's DOB for me, she's kinda conscious if you actually consider it"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346263)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:22 PM
Author: cocky locus

you aren't describing "consciousness" as understood by Serious People. you're describing something else. i think it's fair and reasonable to call it "ensoulment"

consciousness is not something unique to humans and is a property of cybernetic systems

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346286)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: Spruce big locale factory reset button

it doesn’t have to be chips and wires. it could be made out of meat like us

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346146)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: adventurous school

i don't think consciousness being explained away is what will depress religiousmos. a mechanistic understanding of the brain that shows the self is an illusion (along with related ideas of having agency/free will) is what will really do a lot of people in. reducing human existence to unconscious synaptic processing with a thin conscious representation (likely because something like attention schema theory is true).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346455)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 3:08 PM
Author: cocky locus

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346466)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 3:17 PM
Author: Spruce big locale factory reset button

I don’t understand you Sam Harrismos who say (1) the self is an illusion, and (2) consciousness is the only thing we can be sure of. These seem completely contradictory. What are you really trying to say?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346509)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: adventurous school

i'm not a Sam Harrismo but I don't see the contradiction there. there's a feeling that we identify as consciousness. we don't understand its nature but it's obviously present. people start with the premise that consciousness has to be experienced by a "self" because that's their intuition for their own experience, but there's no reason to believe that. it's just layers of neural representations reporting on other neural representations, with no unified center.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346547)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: Spruce big locale factory reset button

why is a center versus layers a meaningful distinction if you agree that consciousness is present

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Date: October 14th, 2025 2:25 AM
Author: adventurous school

There's no contradiction here. Consciousness and the self are completely separate. It's only a contradiction if you start with the assumption that a self has to experience consciousness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49347785)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 3:22 PM
Author: vermilion flirting preventive strike

we already have this understanding and it makes no difference and never will.

https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262633086/being-no-one/

even if you could dilute the concept down to something that idiots could understand they would just be like "ok guess i'm a gene-copying biorobot, you best believe I'm going to live up to it champ. the survival of our species is of paramount importance for some reason."

even now we have people decrying nihilism while advocating nihilistic worldviews - "life has the meaning you give to it". people don't even realize that they are nihilists and will attack you for being one haha. it's a total disaster.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49346532)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 7:50 PM
Author: Naked cordovan bbw

Don’t think this is right, it just makes the mystery of consciousness one step more abstract or removed. If even that. We already know that animals have something like consciousness. It’s no more mysterious if a machine has it.

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Date: October 13th, 2025 7:54 PM
Author: cocky locus



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:02 PM
Author: Spruce big locale factory reset button

I’m not talking about machines having consciousness

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49347248)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:09 PM
Author: Naked cordovan bbw

Brother you are even if you don’t realize it yet

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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:25 PM
Author: cocky locus



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:29 PM
Author: Spruce big locale factory reset button

you’re quite witty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49347314)