\
  The most prestigious law school admissions discussion board in the world.
BackRefresh Options Favorite

Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
indecent mint plaza volcanic crater
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
motley center
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
motley center
  05/29/25
...
motley center
  06/03/25
...
motley center
  06/08/25
...
motley center
  07/01/25
...
motley center
  07/03/25
...
motley center
  07/06/25
...
motley center
  07/08/25
...
motley center
  07/13/25
...
motley center
  07/14/25
...
motley center
  07/16/25
...
motley center
  07/20/25
...
motley center
  07/24/25
...
motley center
  07/29/25
...
motley center
  07/30/25
...
motley center
  08/04/25
...
motley center
  08/10/25
...
motley center
  11/11/25
...
motley center
  11/11/25
...
motley center
  11/11/25
...
motley center
  11/11/25
...
motley center
  11/12/25
...
motley center
  11/12/25
...
motley center
  11/13/25
...
motley center
  11/13/25
...
motley center
  11/16/25
...
motley center
  11/16/25
...
motley center
  11/17/25
...
motley center
  11/18/25
...
motley center
  11/23/25
...
motley center
  11/24/25
...
motley center
  11/24/25
...
motley center
  11/24/25
...
motley center
  11/26/25
...
motley center
  11/26/25
...
motley center
  11/26/25
...
motley center
  11/27/25
...
motley center
  11/28/25
...
motley center
  12/02/25
...
nyuug
  12/04/25
...
nyuug
  12/04/25
...
nyuug
  12/07/25
...
nyuug
  12/08/25
...
nyuug
  12/08/25
...
nyuug
  12/09/25
...
nyuug
  12/10/25
Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
peach crusty site sandwich
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
razzle persian goyim
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
peach crusty site sandwich
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
razzle persian goyim
  05/29/25
read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
peach crusty site sandwich
  05/29/25
Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
Black Lettuce
  07/01/25
...
appetizing white love of her life becky
  07/13/25
...
Big-titted Ultramarine Tanning Salon
  07/13/25
what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
Fuchsia Startled Degenerate Box Office
  05/29/25
cq
bistre exhilarant church half-breed
  05/29/25
I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
Indigo shrine headpube
  06/03/25
teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
Black Lettuce
  07/02/25
i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
Massive lilac mad cow disease resort
  06/08/25
Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
mind-boggling home
  07/01/25
really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
Fear-inspiring hyperventilating theater
  07/16/25
It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar s...
Boyish splenetic useless brakes
  11/11/25
it was a nanny state.
aromatic adulterous dragon abode
  11/24/25
Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a sett...
Jared Baumeister is a cow who welches on bets
  12/08/25


Poast new message in this thread



Reply Favorite

Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: indecent mint plaza volcanic crater

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#23393887)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: motley center

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#48969812)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: motley center

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#48969813)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#48985020)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#48997575)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49064860)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49070377)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49077411)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49084518)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49098591)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49101058)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49105012)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49117359)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49128622)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49141968)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49143857)



Reply Favorite

Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49156580)



Reply Favorite

Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49172980)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49421817)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49421862)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49421881)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49422254)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49424474)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49425035)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49425543)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49427654)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49436681)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49436785)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49439167)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49441985)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49454945)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49455274)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49457596)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49458108)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49461550)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49463581)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49464738)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 27th, 2025 5:48 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49466319)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49467160)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: motley center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49478445)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49484240)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49484832)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 7th, 2025 7:20 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49492316)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 8th, 2025 12:55 AM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49493000)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 8th, 2025 8:23 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49495268)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 9th, 2025 3:57 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49497250)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 10th, 2025 9:55 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49500993)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: peach crusty site sandwich

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#48969854)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: razzle persian goyim

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#48969860)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: peach crusty site sandwich

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#48969863)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: razzle persian goyim

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#48969954)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: peach crusty site sandwich

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#48971066)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Black Lettuce

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49065184)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: appetizing white love of her life becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49098592)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Big-titted Ultramarine Tanning Salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49098608)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Fuchsia Startled Degenerate Box Office

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#48970037)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: bistre exhilarant church half-breed

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#48970041)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Indigo shrine headpube

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#48985033)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Black Lettuce

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49065206)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Massive lilac mad cow disease resort

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#48997602)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: mind-boggling home

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49065026)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Fear-inspiring hyperventilating theater

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49105022)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: Boyish splenetic useless brakes

It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49421865)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM
Author: aromatic adulterous dragon abode

it was a nanny state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49458174)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister is a cow who welches on bets

Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49495273)