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Question about European feudalism.

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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Bisexual Doctorate Brunch

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Lascivious stage sneaky criminal

just walk outside bro

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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Lascivious stage sneaky criminal

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM
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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM
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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM
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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM
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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM
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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM
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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM
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Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM
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Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM
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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:20 PM
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:55 AM
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:23 PM
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Date: December 9th, 2025 3:57 PM
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Date: December 10th, 2025 9:55 PM
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:07 PM
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:04 AM
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Date: December 21st, 2025 8:59 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



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Date: December 24th, 2025 12:00 AM
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Fantasy-prone trust fund

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: motley nowag university

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Fantasy-prone trust fund

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: motley nowag university

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone trust fund

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Fluffy bbw

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: tripping mind-boggling black woman liquid oxygen



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Titillating Lettuce Dopamine



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Odious Institution

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Aromatic Violet Bawdyhouse Affirmative Action

cq

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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: ocher out-of-control deer antler volcanic crater

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Fluffy bbw

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM
Author: Abusive stage



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: arrogant federal generalized bond

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: spectacular doobsian orchestra pit

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: dashing internal respiration point

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49105022)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: Tantric Obsidian Heaven Digit Ratio

It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49421865)



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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM
Author: Marvelous misunderstood kitchen

it was a nanny state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49458174)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM
Author: Tantric Obsidian Heaven Digit Ratio

Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49495273)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM
Author: dashing internal respiration point

actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts

foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49518563)