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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:07 PM Author: cracking factory reset button A few pics from this summer
https://freeimage.host/i/KG3X0wN https://freeimage.host/i/KG3Xlup https://freeimage.host/i/KG3X1tI |
Date: September 29th, 2025 2:07 PM Author: up-to-no-good home very nice, my friend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311748) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:08 PM Author: Yapping Soul-stirring Principal's Office Mediation Gorgeous and stately. Did you build it yourself? I’m trying to build a tiny pink 200 square foot deck and the contractor wants 20k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311753) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:17 PM Author: cracking factory reset button I wanted it done right and a contractor was looking for winter work. I paid 60K for the composite deck and concrete footers. The pilings were helical pilings that were drilled in. That was a huge expense, but it won't buckle or heave with the permafrost.
It completely changes the house and it's awesome. The pic was from once the snow melted and I hadn't cleaned up the yard or put the jetski docks in the water yet. |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:09 PM Author: Smoky institution perfect (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311756) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:11 PM Author: tan french chef trump supporter veddy nice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311768) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:12 PM Author: Glassy Center Coldplay Fan I’m jealous (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311776) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:14 PM Author: ungodly milk indian lodge Very nice, you should clean up your yard though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311781) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:18 PM Author: cracking factory reset button Yeah, that was right after winter. I included the sailboat pic to see that the yard looks better cleaned up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311801) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:16 PM Author: Olive floppy address where in india is this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311791) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:17 PM Author: cracking factory reset button Just outside mumbai (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311797) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:18 PM Author: Crusty spot Deck is great, yard is trailer park tier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311802) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:24 PM Author: cracking factory reset button I hadn't cleaned it up after winter yet. This was in April. Looks a lot better now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311830) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:22 PM Author: Thriller messiness What can you catch dock fishing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311822) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:24 PM Author: cracking factory reset button The lake is stocked with rainbows. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311832) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:23 PM Author: Mind-boggling police squad lol @ that proletopia
looks 180 how r the neighbors |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:24 PM Author: cracking factory reset button Neighbors are amazing. I'll never sell because my neighbors are awesome.
I'm stealing proletopia. |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 10:14 PM Author: swashbuckling hateful mad cow disease (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49313141) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:27 PM Author: Overrated big-titted mexican 180 when are you hosting XO deck party? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311843) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 10:14 PM Author: swashbuckling hateful mad cow disease (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49313142) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:28 PM Author: dead laughsome sneaky criminal base Any good ice fishing on that lake? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311847) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:34 PM Author: cracking factory reset button There are ice fisherman all winter right in front of my house with their little tents. I've never gone ice fishing, I'm too burnt out on fishing by the time winter comes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311869) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:29 PM Author: Flesh Stage Too big. What do you use it for? Maintenance will be awful. Hope it is worth it to you but seems retarded to me.
A big concrete pad out back wouldve been 10x more useful. |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:33 PM Author: cracking factory reset button The back yard is completely sloped. It's composite decking, so maintenance should be minimal. It would make more sense if you were at the house. It wraps around the entire house connecting the back yard to the front. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311864) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:46 PM Author: Flesh Stage Dont get me wrong its nice.
Hope you enjoy. I am a fan of patios over decks but i take your point re slope.
Still seems oversized but hope you enjoy. |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:57 PM Author: cracking factory reset button Here’s another shitty angle, but you can see the surface. Still in April. Pic of my track star dotter.
https://freeimage.host/i/KGKLbjV |
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Date: September 30th, 2025 1:48 PM Author: greedy french area Hawt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49314825) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:33 PM Author: Ivory Diverse Sanctuary lol at all the lawyers here in shoeboxes
there was a right way and wrong way to do life and dirte correctly trusted his gut |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:35 PM Author: dead laughsome sneaky criminal base You should stain it with black pine tar it will preserve the wood much better than flame sealant. Otherwise you got about 7 years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311875) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:40 PM Author: cracking factory reset button It's supposed to last 40 years. I think Alaska winter helps preserve wood or something. The old one I ripped out was 20 years old and the structure was still perfect. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311893) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:36 PM Author: pink beady-eyed chapel 180. Once when I worked for the Forest Service in Montana I came across a full moose skull with antlers and lower jawbones. I brought it back to college and set it on my steps and someone swiped it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311880) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:38 PM Author: cracking factory reset button That sucks.
I had an 80 lb king salmon that I caught mounted, and brought it down to college (I was living off campus) and it was stolen. I'm still furious about it. |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:40 PM Author: Ivory Diverse Sanctuary 80 lbs?? Wow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311899) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:42 PM Author: cracking factory reset button Google Kenai River King Salmon.
We haven't even been able to fish for kings in about 5 years. But back in the glory days, 70 and 80 lb kings weren't uncommon. |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:42 PM Author: pink beady-eyed chapel Thieves are the worst. I lived off campus on a dead end street around a bunch of proles. I guarantee it was one of them who swiped it. Fuckers. Then I went over to Jackson on a school trip later that year and asked one of the antler shops how much they'd pay for a moose skull with antlers and they said something like $2K, which was a lot back then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311906) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:45 PM Author: cracking factory reset button Holy shit!
I know people go shed hunting a lot and sell the sheds, but I've rarely heard of antlers still attached to the skull. |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:38 PM Author: garnet seedy dilemma id like to sit on your d*ck - oops, silly spell ch*ck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311884) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:40 PM Author: cracking factory reset button I'd let you sit on my d*ck.
I'm getting a hot tub once I retire. I'm gone too much right now to make it worthwhile. |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:45 PM Author: Twinkling native pisswyrm Insanely 180. Also, if you had that property where I live, you'd be taking your life in your hands with alligators every time you went on your lawn. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311916) |
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Date: September 30th, 2025 10:24 AM Author: Low-t legend Same. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49314194) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:46 PM Author: sinister self-absorbed casino personal credit line do you think that if your wife tripped and fell on the deck she'd go through it onto the ground? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311922) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:51 PM Author: cracking factory reset button Doubtful. Since it's composite decking, the joist spacing is 16" on center. Her surface area isn't narrow enough imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311947) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 3:03 PM Author: cracking factory reset button I have a mosquito fogger that keeps them away for about 6 hours. Takes about 5 minutes to fog the whole area. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49311981) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 7:14 PM Author: Slippery associate It's hard to say much about the deck from that spy shot taken from a mile away. The deck has some details indicating that it's not a really cheap job. And it doesn't appear to be a high end job. So it's in the middle somewhere. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49312706) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 7:21 PM Author: cracking factory reset button Yeah, it's what 60k got me. I feel like it was a fair price. Probably 45K in materials and 15K in labor.
Here's what the actual deck looks like at normal level. Nothing spectacular. https://freeimage.host/i/img-0256.KGKLbjV |
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Date: September 30th, 2025 3:01 PM Author: pink beady-eyed chapel Congrats on your kid winning all those National Merit Finalist medals. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49315106) |
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Date: September 30th, 2025 3:12 PM Author: cracking factory reset button Nice thing about track and field is you can actually see where you rank nationally. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49315149) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 7:23 PM Author: cracking factory reset button Really? It's in all the grocery stores here. The only time I've ever eaten it is when I was commercial fishing in Bristol Bay and we couldn't get normal bread. It's better than nothing. We usually just ate it with PB&J.
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Date: September 29th, 2025 8:39 PM Author: big theater stage ratface Extremely chill. Will be great with the hottub.
What beers are you drinking on it? |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 9:14 PM Author: cobalt point stock car sWeet. what direction does the deck face? |
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Date: September 30th, 2025 11:51 AM Author: cracking factory reset button Faces East, so, I get the morning sun. In the evenings I have shade on my deck which is actually pretty nice for the Solo stove (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49314498) |
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Date: September 30th, 2025 12:47 PM Author: cobalt point stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49314657) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 10:18 PM Author: heady pale ladyboy yarmulke looks nice. can it support your fat fiancé?
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Date: September 30th, 2025 11:52 AM Author: cracking factory reset button The structure is sound, but I'm worried the helical pilings might one day buckle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49314500) |
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Date: September 30th, 2025 11:54 AM Author: Hideous Amber Station awesome deck and beautiful location. but i can't imagine living someplace that has the number of mosquitos you do. sounds hellish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49314506) |
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Date: September 30th, 2025 11:57 AM Author: cracking factory reset button Most days there's a breeze. The only time I notice mosquitos is when everything is flat calm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49314511) |
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Date: September 30th, 2025 1:49 PM Author: Avocado main people cumskin this is alaska? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49314831) |
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Date: September 30th, 2025 2:58 PM Author: cracking factory reset button yes sir (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49315093) |
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Date: September 30th, 2025 3:42 PM Author: garnet seedy dilemma do you ever see UFOs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49315315) |
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Date: September 30th, 2025 4:51 PM Author: cracking factory reset button Quite often. But, I think they're mostly just bats. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49315531) |
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Date: September 30th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: Bull headed gas station background story Absolutely 180 despite 1500 sq ft being decidedly oafish.
Does the lake get warm enough to swim in? |
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Date: September 30th, 2025 5:44 PM Author: cracking factory reset button Yeah, it's a pretty shallow lake and it's not stream fed. Because it's so warm, it's the main recreational lake where I live. Lots of jet skis, wake boats, ski boats, etc. The little sailboats are a ton of fun when it's too windy to do watersports. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49315633) |
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Date: September 30th, 2025 11:46 PM Author: jet razzmatazz dingle berry toaster Got any aurora pics? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49316489) |
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Date: October 1st, 2025 12:34 AM Author: cracking factory reset button From last night https://freeimage.host/i/KMIckzB |
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Date: October 1st, 2025 3:57 AM Author: Ultramarine fear-inspiring travel guidebook school cafeteria 97521005357832 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49316677) |
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Date: October 1st, 2025 2:02 PM Author: swashbuckling hateful mad cow disease (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49317470) |
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Date: October 1st, 2025 8:45 AM Author: jet razzmatazz dingle berry toaster Absolute 180. Have managed to miss seeing it every trip there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49316892) |
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Date: October 1st, 2025 2:30 PM Author: ungodly milk indian lodge Did you grow up in AK? How do Californians fare up there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49317558) |
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Date: October 1st, 2025 2:45 PM Author: cheese-eating splenetic lay 180 billion and I'm glad you're alive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49317603) |
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Date: October 1st, 2025 2:45 PM Author: swashbuckling hateful mad cow disease (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49317604) |
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Date: October 1st, 2025 2:46 PM Author: topaz passionate faggotry How many months of the year is the lake frozen or otherwise too cold to do anything on? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49317608) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 11:28 PM Author: cracking factory reset button Probably 5. Mid November through Mid May. Even when it’s frozen, there are ice fishing huts and ice rinks all over the lake. So, it’s not like it’s unusable once it freezes over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49323828) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 1:29 AM Author: Ultramarine fear-inspiring travel guidebook school cafeteria (guy who thinks a frozen lake is useless) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5781076&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=4973486#49323950) |