\
  The most prestigious law school admissions discussion board in the world.
BackRefresh Options Favorite

Has anyone in history reached the level of worldwide fame Michael Jackson did?

Not even Jesus is on his level
motley double fault
  10/16/25
he's not even the most famous person with "MJ" ini...
mind-boggling transparent field skinny woman
  10/16/25
Elvis was bigger than MJ 🙄
idiotic brunch
  10/16/25
worldwide it’s michael and its not even close
motley double fault
  10/16/25
Can’t argue with that, Chang
Aphrodisiac smoky mental disorder pisswyrm
  10/16/25
WRONG https://static.dw.com/image/40162725_1004.webp
idiotic brunch
  10/16/25
...
motley double fault
  10/16/25
youre being sloppy with your categories and numbers i pre...
big-titted library
  10/16/25
let’s narrow it to at the peak of their fame, name rec...
motley double fault
  10/16/25
Trump and it's not even remotely close
mind-boggling transparent field skinny woman
  10/16/25
There is a stratosphere of "globally recognizable"...
big-titted library
  10/16/25
You’re a fucking retard and you’re over complica...
motley double fault
  10/16/25
while still alive is an important component and you are not ...
mind-boggling transparent field skinny woman
  10/16/25
Taylor Swift is basically at that level rn
ivory pit police squad
  10/16/25
she’s not on Michael’s level at his peak no sorr...
motley double fault
  10/16/25
you are so fucking weird
mind-boggling transparent field skinny woman
  10/16/25
She never had the universal appeal of MJ in the 80s.
idiotic brunch
  10/16/25
Right. Swift fans are a certain type. But everyone loved Mic...
180 maniacal therapy
  10/16/25
but her fans are more devoted on average, so i'd say it's at...
Out-of-control heady home hissy fit
  10/16/25
Would jet black Congo ophthalmologists know Taylor? I guess ...
spectacular chad roast beef
  10/16/25
...
Out-of-control heady home hissy fit
  10/16/25
Even old people knew MJ. Nobody over 50 has any idea who Ta...
supple principal's office
  10/21/25
Theres something about music thats different to say a film/m...
burgundy theater
  10/16/25
Toddlers also know "SP" before seeing him but that...
spectacular chad roast beef
  10/16/25
How would toddlers know who spaceporn is? Do toddlers read...
idiotic brunch
  10/16/25
When the lights go out in the playroom, they know
spectacular chad roast beef
  10/16/25
jfc SP
swashbuckling vengeful headpube regret
  10/16/25
I think Michael Jordan got pretty close
180 maniacal therapy
  10/16/25
yeah he's the first one i think of for counter examples. ...
big-titted library
  10/16/25
get out of my thread you insufferable autist
motley double fault
  10/16/25
Jordan is a good one
motley double fault
  10/16/25
I don't think most goat herders in Mongolia knew who he is
lime point pocket flask
  10/21/25
Trump obviously
Bespoke soggy newt
  10/16/25
LORD BYRON
Impressive Razzle Coffee Pot
  10/21/25
cr. he was famous worldwide at a time before tv, radio, etc....
Rebellious church
  10/21/25
last 50 years? Other than MJ, probably Trump and Elvis
lime point pocket flask
  10/21/25
Muhammad Ali was more famous than Michael Jackson.
flesh space
  10/21/25
Religious figures don't count, Trumpkin.
idiotic brunch
  10/21/25
Trump
At-the-ready Stage
  10/21/25
Man, fuck these other comments. You're GODDAMN RIGHT that th...
Shimmering razzmatazz native black woman
  10/21/25
Michael Jackson and Madonna wouldn't have been able to walk ...
outnumbered domesticated son of senegal tank
  10/21/25
he wasnt even the most famous during his century. Elvis and ...
Rebellious church
  10/21/25
Did people in Asia and Africa even know about Elvis and the ...
supple principal's office
  10/21/25
who cares what they think. the world is America and Europe.
Rebellious church
  10/21/25


Poast new message in this thread



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 8:48 AM
Author: motley double fault

Not even Jesus is on his level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352666)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 8:56 AM
Author: mind-boggling transparent field skinny woman

he's not even the most famous person with "MJ" initials you tranny retard. you just like him because he was a disgusting pedo just like you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352673)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 8:49 AM
Author: idiotic brunch

Elvis was bigger than MJ 🙄

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352668)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 8:51 AM
Author: motley double fault

worldwide it’s michael and its not even close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352669)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:12 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac smoky mental disorder pisswyrm

Can’t argue with that, Chang

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352705)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:17 AM
Author: idiotic brunch

WRONG

https://static.dw.com/image/40162725_1004.webp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352714)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: motley double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352716)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: big-titted library

youre being sloppy with your categories and numbers

i presume you mean "in his lifetime", and so of course Jesus is out of the conversation

and i also presume you mean total headcount of people who recognize this celebrity. so, naturally, anyone famous in an era of mass communication and a global pop over 5 billion is going to win.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352671)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 8:59 AM
Author: motley double fault

let’s narrow it to at the peak of their fame, name recognition, face recognition

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352679)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:01 AM
Author: mind-boggling transparent field skinny woman

Trump and it's not even remotely close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352683)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: big-titted library

There is a stratosphere of "globally recognizable" and then all these unimportant, noisy factors like

- were there 8 billion people on earth, or only 6.9 billion (2001)

- how many chinks had internet access

etc

Every year there are more humans, and every year there is more distribution of media

So 2025 people will beat 2017 people, etc.

Does that make them "moar famous"? Mathematically, I guess.

I think the only meaningful thing to do is to acknowledge that a small group have reached "global fame while alive".

Popes, potuses, pop stars, soccer stars.

Again, presuming this whole convo is bracketed by 'while still alive'. Otherwise obv Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352719)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:54 AM
Author: motley double fault

You’re a fucking retard and you’re over complicating this because you’re an autist. I told you upthread all we need to measure is percentage of worldwide name recognition and face recognition at their peak

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352793)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 12:00 PM
Author: mind-boggling transparent field skinny woman

while still alive is an important component and you are not explaining it clearly because you are a retarded tranny pedophile.

while still alive = Trump (not remotely close)

all time = Jesus (also not remotely close)

michael fucking jackson couldn't hold trumps nutsack and you are a retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49353115)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: ivory pit police squad

Taylor Swift is basically at that level rn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352681)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:03 AM
Author: motley double fault

she’s not on Michael’s level at his peak no sorry

she’s absolutely the most famous living pop star though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352686)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:04 AM
Author: mind-boggling transparent field skinny woman

you are so fucking weird

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352688)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: idiotic brunch

She never had the universal appeal of MJ in the 80s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352718)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: 180 maniacal therapy

Right. Swift fans are a certain type. But everyone loved Michael Jackson

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352748)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 12:34 PM
Author: Out-of-control heady home hissy fit

but her fans are more devoted on average, so i'd say it's at the same level overall. at the very least it's worldwide.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49353171)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:23 AM
Author: spectacular chad roast beef

Would jet black Congo ophthalmologists know Taylor? I guess they all have obamaphones so I guess so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352726)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 12:33 PM
Author: Out-of-control heady home hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49353168)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 11:42 AM
Author: supple principal's office

Even old people knew MJ. Nobody over 50 has any idea who Taylor Swift is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49363758)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:07 AM
Author: burgundy theater

Theres something about music thats different to say a film/movie star like Tom Cruise/Brad Pitt etc where, even if some third worlder hasnt seen him live or on a TV, they're deeply familiar w the work and it transcends that person as a product, they become ethereal

sound gay but even toddlers would know "MJ" just from the beats before they ever saw him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352692)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:22 AM
Author: spectacular chad roast beef

Toddlers also know "SP" before seeing him but that doesn't make him the most famous ever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352725)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:24 AM
Author: idiotic brunch

How would toddlers know who spaceporn is? Do toddlers read xo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352735)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: spectacular chad roast beef

When the lights go out in the playroom, they know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352807)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: swashbuckling vengeful headpube regret

jfc SP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352964)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:26 AM
Author: 180 maniacal therapy

I think Michael Jordan got pretty close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352745)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:33 AM
Author: big-titted library

yeah he's the first one i think of for counter examples.

he reached the absolute pinnacle and there was nothing he could have done to increase recognition. he spanned the globe.

BUT he peaked during a smaller global pop and before the internet, so someone lesser than he, but who is famous today, would surpass his headcount.

you just need to identify the handful of people who maxed out, and he was one of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352754)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 10:46 AM
Author: motley double fault

get out of my thread you insufferable autist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352971)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 10:45 AM
Author: motley double fault

Jordan is a good one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49352970)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 11:30 AM
Author: lime point pocket flask

I don't think most goat herders in Mongolia knew who he is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49363732)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: Bespoke soggy newt

Trump obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49353162)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 11:25 AM
Author: Impressive Razzle Coffee Pot

LORD BYRON

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49363722)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 12:37 PM
Author: Rebellious church

cr. he was famous worldwide at a time before tv, radio, etc..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49363921)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 11:31 AM
Author: lime point pocket flask

last 50 years? Other than MJ, probably Trump and Elvis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49363733)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 11:38 AM
Author: flesh space

Muhammad Ali was more famous than Michael Jackson.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49363752)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 11:46 AM
Author: idiotic brunch

Religious figures don't count, Trumpkin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49363763)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: At-the-ready Stage

Trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49363755)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: Shimmering razzmatazz native black woman

Man, fuck these other comments. You're GODDAMN RIGHT that the king of pop tops all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49363756)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: outnumbered domesticated son of senegal tank

Michael Jackson and Madonna wouldn't have been able to walk down an alley in Madagascar without being screamed at and having their songs sung during their prime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49363759)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 12:41 PM
Author: Rebellious church

he wasnt even the most famous during his century. Elvis and Beatles have him beat. maybe sinatra.

as for all of history op is clearly flame. but off top of my head: Jesus, Alexander, George Washington, napoleon, Byron, Shakespeare, etc...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49363934)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 6:55 PM
Author: supple principal's office

Did people in Asia and Africa even know about Elvis and the Beatles? I feel like they were more aware of Jackson.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49364860)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 8:06 PM
Author: Rebellious church

who cares what they think. the world is America and Europe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5085026#49364972)