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rating poasters as bizarre classical music from the 20th/21st centuries

mostly solo piano.
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/17/26
requesting Chopin pls
slimy opaque cuckoldry
  01/17/26
Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to ...
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/17/26
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honey-headed motley resort
  01/17/26
The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli --...
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/17/26
wild, ty!
honey-headed motley resort
  01/17/26
There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: yo...
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/17/26
...
thriller feces love of her life
  01/17/26
that kind of music generally sucks, but content
hairraiser locus
  01/17/26
Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical f...
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/17/26
180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the u...
hairraiser locus
  01/17/26
The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style...
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/17/26
but content tp
Stimulating godawful theater
  01/17/26
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Primrose Fragrant Institution
  01/17/26
Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering...
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/17/26
Jcm here
comical out-of-control corner becky
  01/17/26
Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtu...
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/17/26
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thriller feces love of her life
  01/17/26
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At-the-ready red ticket booth
  01/17/26
Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and o...
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/17/26
this is completely preposterous
thriller feces love of her life
  01/17/26
...
At-the-ready red ticket booth
  01/17/26
I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/17/26
lmao
thriller feces love of her life
  01/17/26
And the composer too. Almost forgot.
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/17/26
...
thriller feces love of her life
  01/17/26
This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out ...
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/18/26
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khaki exciting depressive boiling water
  01/17/26
Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: http...
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/17/26
Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant
khaki exciting depressive boiling water
  01/17/26
Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit...
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/17/26
I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt p...
thriller feces love of her life
  01/17/26
I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's ...
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/17/26
180 thank you you used the phrase "obviously a cynical...
thriller feces love of her life
  01/17/26
No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some ...
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/17/26
can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano y...
thriller feces love of her life
  01/17/26
Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so ...
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/17/26
link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never...
thriller feces love of her life
  01/17/26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/17/26
ty
thriller feces love of her life
  01/17/26
Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings o...
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/17/26
Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/17/26
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irradiated wild selfie
  01/17/26
"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahash...
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/17/26
...
rusted kitchen
  01/17/26
is this a compliment? are we friends?
irradiated wild selfie
  01/17/26
This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/17/26
I love you so much
irradiated wild selfie
  01/17/26
...
rusted kitchen
  01/17/26
Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beeth...
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/17/26
...
brilliant abusive stage party of the first part
  01/17/26
I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think...
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/18/26
do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth interesting te...
honey-headed motley resort
  01/17/26
I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this partic...
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/17/26
understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is fr...
honey-headed motley resort
  01/17/26
Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one ...
Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut
  01/18/26
...
honey-headed motley resort
  01/18/26


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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:20 AM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

mostly solo piano.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596192)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:23 AM
Author: slimy opaque cuckoldry

requesting Chopin pls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596197)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:27 AM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to an early 20th-century reintepretation of Chopin's etudes by Godowsky. Not particularly bizarre, just difficult to perform. Apologies in advance for any disappointment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuEa1XLEVSw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596202)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:24 AM
Author: honey-headed motley resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596198)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:29 AM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli -- to be performed with rage per the composer's instructions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_dn3ORLq6s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596206)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: honey-headed motley resort

wild, ty!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596339)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:37 PM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: you either love it or violently hate it and think it's just noise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596419)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: thriller feces love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596874)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: hairraiser locus

that kind of music generally sucks, but content

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596394)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan, but that's true of most composers with a similar style. Personally I can't stand any of his music. Enjoy! Just look at how pretentious the piece's title is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYMXbM0RCeU



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596404)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:45 PM
Author: hairraiser locus

180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the unreadble notation and beyond pretentious title push it over the top

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49597223)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style is taken to the point where I could create the same semi-random but pointlessly complex music despite me having no talent as a composer. That's why you can't take Ferneyhough or similar composers seriously. But they do want you to take them seriously. After all, Ferneyhough made it all the way to Stanford with this gibberish "music."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49597685)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: Stimulating godawful theater

but content tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49597001)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:41 PM
Author: Primrose Fragrant Institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596425)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering Sorabji's typically serious style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFZYqLqBHOc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596437)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: comical out-of-control corner becky

Jcm here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596525)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:18 PM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aR0naIp9eM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596530)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: thriller feces love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596884)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:20 PM
Author: At-the-ready red ticket booth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596538)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:55 PM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and one foot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyy3CRuMQnc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596865)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: thriller feces love of her life

this is completely preposterous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596919)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:41 PM
Author: At-the-ready red ticket booth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596958)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:47 PM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596979)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: thriller feces love of her life

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596985)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

And the composer too. Almost forgot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596999)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:48 PM
Author: thriller feces love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49597089)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 9:19 AM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out his "Innocent Prisoner" for piano and voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LIw8ykSmGU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49598324)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: khaki exciting depressive boiling water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596869)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKfFaSWr4m0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596870)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: khaki exciting depressive boiling water

Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596948)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit of dissonance and complexity without devolving into randomness. Actually it goes too far, but there's much worse out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596986)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:05 PM
Author: thriller feces love of her life

I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt performance of John Cage's As Slow As Possible. Rate me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_as_Possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596877)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's his "Phrygian Gates": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DixKnE9HqIU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596883)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: thriller feces love of her life

180 thank you

you used the phrase "obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan" above and that is how I view Cage but others may disagree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596891)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:16 PM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some of his music is actually enjoyable. For instance, his pieces for prepared piano.

Ferneyhough, the fraud and charlatan, is just SPS with no redeeming qualities. It's just unnecessary complexity and near-randomness that ordinary people laugh at (and should).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596904)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: thriller feces love of her life

can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano you enjoyed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596915)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:34 PM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so I don't remember specific pieces. The interesting ones had minimalist aspects IIRC. The problem with the recordings is the piano preparation and resultant sound varies wildly with each recording. So some recordings sound dull while others are more lively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596940)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:36 PM
Author: thriller feces love of her life

link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never been able to enjoy anything by Cage but I'm open to reassessing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596945)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:40 PM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596952)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: thriller feces love of her life

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596984)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:52 PM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings of Cage's works were my favorite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596991)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596993)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: irradiated wild selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596950)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:48 PM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahashi's recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbUgAXt75s8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49596980)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: rusted kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49597105)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:25 PM
Author: irradiated wild selfie

is this a compliment? are we friends?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49597348)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49597403)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: irradiated wild selfie

I love you so much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49597475)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: rusted kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49597104)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:02 PM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beethoven's last piano sonata, for mechanical piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gyJkYWdWWo (gets interesting after about 8-10 minutes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49597137)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:00 PM
Author: brilliant abusive stage party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49597425)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think of anything more appropriate than Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 6 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Y1bZYi60M

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49598298)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:10 PM
Author: honey-headed motley resort

do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth

interesting technique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYtybgToH2Q&t=28s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49597568)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:43 PM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this particular piece. Classical music snobs would probably thumb their noses at this piece, but the snobs can be ignored. All that matters is whether you like it.

The technique of modifying the sound of the piano by interacting with the strings themselves is not new. Henry Cowell first explored this around 100 or so years ago. John Cage took the idea further in his pieces for prepared piano, which I mentioned earlier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49597648)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: honey-headed motley resort

understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is from cage - i like this a lot more than him though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49597813)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:54 AM
Author: Mustard charismatic plaza juggernaut

Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one of Cage's teachers, if I remember correctly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49598296)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 10:26 AM
Author: honey-headed motley resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5231527#49598425)