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Fun Talmud Hypo: Found $100 Bill On Shabbos; OK To Kick It Home? (Link)

Shabbos and Yom Tov #41 Found Money Rabbi Meir Orlian Wed...
Arousing church building electric furnace
  03/23/26
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irate tan prole
  03/23/26
Why can't you just ask a shabbos goyim to pick it up for you...
Sable drunken pit
  03/23/26
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at-the-ready ticket booth party of the first part
  03/23/26
Yes you fucking moron. The hypo does not mention asking a sh...
Sable drunken pit
  03/23/26
poor rc? it literally says "non-Jew" which is a sh...
Arousing church building electric furnace
  03/23/26
a non-Jew is just another shabbos goyim? I thought shabbos g...
Sable drunken pit
  03/23/26
i dont think jews are allowed to have a shabbos goy go so fa...
irate tan prole
  03/23/26
no goyim are dumb enough to do that anymore, so now elevator...
Sable drunken pit
  03/23/26
rofl didnt u live in mfh? any goy can be a shabbos goy. ...
Arousing church building electric furnace
  03/23/26
what about something like "hm, well, you could pick up ...
Sable drunken pit
  03/23/26
perhaps too direct. might be better like this: "hm, ...
Arousing church building electric furnace
  03/23/26
...
Sable drunken pit
  03/23/26
is there a difference based on the monetary amount? why is ...
Rusted concupiscible son of senegal temple
  03/23/26
cq. the answer ues the phrase "if you found a valuable ...
Arousing church building electric furnace
  03/23/26
why did jews invent all these retarded ass rules just to fig...
Costumed pearl haunted graveyard circlehead
  03/23/26
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at-the-ready ticket booth party of the first part
  03/23/26
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Rusted concupiscible son of senegal temple
  03/23/26
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Arousing church building electric furnace
  03/23/26
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khaki hairraiser base
  03/23/26
i dont even understand the last sentence. it seems to indica...
irate tan prole
  03/23/26
it's talking about the western law equivalent of a claim of ...
Arousing church building electric furnace
  03/23/26
so you cna find a diamond ring (not a $100 bill) (and as lon...
irate tan prole
  03/23/26
dental floss in the sky tp lol
Rusted concupiscible son of senegal temple
  03/23/26
depends on whether the diamond ring is considered mukzeh. ...
Arousing church building electric furnace
  03/23/26
now let's just be 100% honest here: if you or another kike s...
Sable drunken pit
  03/23/26
there's always yom kippur to atone for our sins!
Arousing church building electric furnace
  03/23/26
Maybe this log in glitch isn't so bad after all. I don't nee...
copper police squad lay
  03/23/26
i was hoping to poast it saturday night, and couldn't poast ...
Arousing church building electric furnace
  03/23/26
The real answer: Any Jew, through the power of choseness, ca...
wonderful azn jap
  03/23/26
see joshua 10:12-14 -- joshua's long day and the moon standi...
Arousing church building electric furnace
  03/23/26
jews and other orthodox types excel as lawyers because they ...
khaki hairraiser base
  03/23/26
cr, and goyim excel as beasts of burden because theyve spent...
Arousing church building electric furnace
  03/23/26
then why dont niggers do a better job of it?
copper police squad lay
  03/23/26
...
at-the-ready ticket booth party of the first part
  03/23/26
...
Arousing church building electric furnace
  03/23/26
...
Sable drunken pit
  03/23/26
talmud has a lot about agriculture and farming doesn't it? b...
khaki hairraiser base
  03/23/26
yes, but the talmud era was 200-500 ce, and we werent allowe...
Arousing church building electric furnace
  03/23/26
what does that have to do with you going on the internet in ...
khaki hairraiser base
  03/23/26
This is hilarious. I wish I was Jewish.
Doobsian dysfunction
  03/23/26
I genuinely wish I would've had this sort of logical puzzle ...
Bistre provocative crackhouse twinkling uncleanness
  03/23/26
rules are meant to be broken
Arousing church building electric furnace
  03/23/26
there are a lot of cultures that have the opposite value
Bistre provocative crackhouse twinkling uncleanness
  03/23/26
yep, look at obedient subservient orientals. pathetic.
Arousing church building electric furnace
  03/23/26
one weird trick
Bistre provocative crackhouse twinkling uncleanness
  03/23/26
goyim picking up hundred dollar bills and holding them up ov...
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 8:50 AM
Author: Arousing church building electric furnace

Shabbos and Yom Tov #41

Found Money

Rabbi Meir Orlian

Wed Mar 18 2026

Based on the writings of Rav Chaim Kohn, שליט''א

Based on the writings of Harav Chaim Kohn, shlita

Q

While taking a Shabbos walk, I encountered a $100 bill. Am I allowed to possess it?

There is an issue of muktzeh and — if no eruv

— an issue of carrying. Although Chazal provided certain leniencies regarding the prospective loss of one’s wallet, the leniencies are not applicable to money that is found, since it is not yours yet (O.C. 266:13).

Thus, you may not pick up the $100 bill, even if there is an eruv, because of muktzeh (Mishnah Berurah 266:38). However, according to many Acharonim, you can kick it aside with your foot to a secure place if there is an eruv (Shemiras Shabbos K’Hilchasah 22:36).

There is a dispute between the Acharonim as to whether you may tell a non-Jew to pick up the bill for you, despite its being muktzeh. However, while you may not tell him to carry it if there is no eruv, if he chooses to bring it to your house of his own accord, you do not have to stop him (Mishnah Ber-urah, ibid.).

Nonetheless, if you found a valuable item that is not muktzeh and there is an eruv, you may possess it and take it home. It is not considered a transac-tion, because there is no seller or giver. However, you should not raise it in a manner that blatantly indicates acquisition (Shemiras Shabbos K’Hilcha-sah 29:32[89]).

https://businesshalacha.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/business_weekly/item_946_en_BW_792.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49761664)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 11:37 AM
Author: irate tan prole

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762232)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 11:57 AM
Author: Sable drunken pit

Why can't you just ask a shabbos goyim to pick it up for you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762305)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 11:59 AM
Author: at-the-ready ticket booth party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762309)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:25 PM
Author: Sable drunken pit

Yes you fucking moron. The hypo does not mention asking a shabbos goyim, just "someone"

Shabbos goyim are how you pricks trick God

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762436)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:20 PM
Author: Arousing church building electric furnace

poor rc? it literally says "non-Jew" which is a shabbos goy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762633)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:37 PM
Author: Sable drunken pit

a non-Jew is just another shabbos goyim? I thought shabbos goyim were blessed by rabbis or something so that they're allowed to facilitate your trickery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762896)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:39 PM
Author: irate tan prole

i dont think jews are allowed to have a shabbos goy go so far as to come into their apartment and cook for them, turn on lights etc.

but jews are allowed to stand there dumbly in an elevator until a goy pushes their floor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762909)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:41 PM
Author: Sable drunken pit

no goyim are dumb enough to do that anymore, so now elevators in MFH just stop at every floor on Fridays and Saturdays.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762916)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:46 PM
Author: Arousing church building electric furnace

rofl didnt u live in mfh?

any goy can be a shabbos goy.

generally, you cant ask a shabbos goy directly do so something. that's why the case says "if he chooses to bring it to your house of his own accord, you do not have to stop him."

you have to hint your shabbos goy "it'd be really nice to have that $100 bill after shabbos" or "no i dont want you to pick up that $100 bill for me, but you can bring it to my house for me to have after shabbos only if you really want to"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762935)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:48 PM
Author: Sable drunken pit

what about something like "hm, well, you could pick up that $100 bill and keep it for yourself, but if you really want that loan to get approved, then you will need to bring me the $100 bill after shabbos"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762939)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:54 PM
Author: Arousing church building electric furnace

perhaps too direct. might be better like this:

"hm, well, you could pick up that $100 bill and keep it for yourself, but too bad it's shabbos because otherwise i'd love to have that $100 myself to pay for pesach expenses. remember, you do want that loan approved, haha"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762966)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: Sable drunken pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762991)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 11:59 AM
Author: Rusted concupiscible son of senegal temple

is there a difference based on the monetary amount? why is this hypo $100 and not $1 or even one penny?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762310)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:22 PM
Author: Arousing church building electric furnace

cq. the answer ues the phrase "if you found a valuable item ..."

there is something in halacha about avoiding significant financial losses, but it's not clear how to apply this here... or whether a $5 or a $20 might be a valuable item.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762636)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:01 PM
Author: Costumed pearl haunted graveyard circlehead

why did jews invent all these retarded ass rules just to figure out loopholes? and why do you people still "follow" these rules in the modern era?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762313)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:08 PM
Author: at-the-ready ticket booth party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762347)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:23 PM
Author: Rusted concupiscible son of senegal temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762428)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:22 PM
Author: Arousing church building electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762637)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:48 PM
Author: khaki hairraiser base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762938)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: irate tan prole

i dont even understand the last sentence. it seems to indicate you should not hold the pilfered goods high like a trophy but should instead cloak them in your black suits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762443)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:26 PM
Author: Arousing church building electric furnace

it's talking about the western law equivalent of a claim of right and taking formal ownership. remember the shit in 1L properly law about taking ownership and making a claim against the world? its kind of the same thing.

in jewish law, you acquire something through an action asserting ownership. but you can't take formal ownership on shabbos. so it's giving a loophole so you can kinda take custody of the item without really taking formal ownership.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762644)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:34 PM
Author: irate tan prole

so you cna find a diamond ring (not a $100 bill) (and as long as there is dental floss in teh sky), take it home and then claim ownership over it at sunset?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762670)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:35 PM
Author: Rusted concupiscible son of senegal temple

dental floss in the sky tp lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762671)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:45 PM
Author: Arousing church building electric furnace

depends on whether the diamond ring is considered mukzeh.

mukzeh means something that has no shabbos purpose. you're not allowed to touch mukzeh, which is an item that has no shabbos purpose.

a $100 bill is mukzeh since it has no shabbos purpose.

a diamond ring that's wearable might not be mukzeh since women wear jewelry on shabbos.

but if you found a raw 5ct diamond, it's mukzeh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762730)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:39 PM
Author: Sable drunken pit

now let's just be 100% honest here: if you or another kike spots a raw 5ct diamond laying on the ground during shabbos, do you really expect us to believe you wouldn't bend over, pick it up, and hide it in your shtreimel?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762910)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:42 PM
Author: Arousing church building electric furnace

there's always yom kippur to atone for our sins!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762921)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:42 PM
Author: copper police squad lay

Maybe this log in glitch isn't so bad after all. I don't need to be exposed to this stupid horseshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762919)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:43 PM
Author: Arousing church building electric furnace

i was hoping to poast it saturday night, and couldn't poast it until mid-morning monday. it's a shonda!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762922)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:44 PM
Author: wonderful azn jap

The real answer: Any Jew, through the power of choseness, can temporarily form a bubble of Friday around self, thus not violating the law of Saturday.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762928)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:50 PM
Author: Arousing church building electric furnace

see joshua 10:12-14 -- joshua's long day and the moon standing still for 24 hours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762946)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:49 PM
Author: khaki hairraiser base

jews and other orthodox types excel as lawyers because they have spent centuries creating legal loopholes to trick their own god.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762944)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:50 PM
Author: Arousing church building electric furnace

cr, and goyim excel as beasts of burden because theyve spent centuries toiling the land

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762949)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: copper police squad lay

then why dont niggers do a better job of it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762994)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:01 PM
Author: at-the-ready ticket booth party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762999)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: Arousing church building electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49763039)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: Sable drunken pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49762995)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:02 PM
Author: khaki hairraiser base

talmud has a lot about agriculture and farming doesn't it? but i suppose disregarding that because you consider laboring for your own sustenance beneath you is exactly the type of creating loopholes for your own religion that we're talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49763008)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:13 PM
Author: Arousing church building electric furnace

yes, but the talmud era was 200-500 ce, and we werent allowed to own land in europe in much more recent times,

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49763041)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:18 PM
Author: khaki hairraiser base

what does that have to do with you going on the internet in 2026 to shit on goys for farming?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49763046)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 7:10 PM
Author: Doobsian dysfunction

This is hilarious. I wish I was Jewish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49763586)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:15 PM
Author: Bistre provocative crackhouse twinkling uncleanness

I genuinely wish I would've had this sort of logical puzzle training as a child learning about the world, to push back against dumbass rules

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49763927)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:19 PM
Author: Arousing church building electric furnace

rules are meant to be broken

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49763936)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:24 PM
Author: Bistre provocative crackhouse twinkling uncleanness

there are a lot of cultures that have the opposite value

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49763943)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:30 PM
Author: Arousing church building electric furnace

yep, look at obedient subservient orientals. pathetic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49763956)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:31 PM
Author: Bistre provocative crackhouse twinkling uncleanness

one weird trick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49763958)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:26 PM
Author: Boyish cocky blood rage

goyim picking up hundred dollar bills and holding them up over their head like Link finding a huge rupee, SMDH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49763948)