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Almost 100% of people misunderstand home value appreciation

Typically the entire increase in value is due to the land. ...
....;..;...;;;.....;;......;;
  02/11/26
Yes
~~(> ' ' )>
  02/11/26
S&P destroys real estate only if your bank will give you...
woah
  02/11/26
(Guy with 0% mortgage)
Buy your next house instantly with Zellow!
  02/11/26
I'm talking about rental property but the point still stands...
woah
  02/11/26
The math still doesn’t work plus you can trade on marg...
....;..;...;;;.....;;......;;
  02/11/26
You can't get margin cheaper than a conforming 30 year fixed...
woah
  02/11/26
You also get $500K in tax-free capital gains on a primary re...
Madison Avenue Lemming Enslaved to Conformity
  02/11/26
plus the freedom of being able to do what you want with your...
gunneratttt gives free BJs to brocolli haired zoom
  02/12/26
Oversimplified, but generally accurate (setting aside the le...
coquettish nigress
  02/11/26
I don’t ignore anything. You can get a loan for mar...
....;..;...;;;.....;;......;;
  02/11/26
it's not so much the depreciation but that build quality on ...
gunneratttt gives free BJs to brocolli haired zoom
  02/12/26
it sure seems like index funds are a lot easier and more cer...
Kenneth Play
  02/11/26
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Frutiger AeroEra was, is, & will be 180 (link)
  02/11/26
If you already have money, of course you want it in RE. If y...
cowgod
  02/11/26
what about just buying REITs? or is there a networth where y...
Kenneth Play
  02/11/26
Property taxes eat you alive. The billionaire wealth tax is ...
..;.;:.;.;..:..;,;,;.
  02/11/26
I don't pay any property tax on my paid off primary residenc...
Theseus
  02/11/26
how
Ass Sunstein
  02/12/26
Yeah I need to learn this hack. I own my house, but the sta...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  02/12/26
i bet shitlib hawaii has some indigenous property tax break ...
gunneratttt gives free BJs to brocolli haired zoom
  02/12/26
the real way to look at it is that your monthly payment is y...
Covid was a Hoax
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Ass Sunstein
  02/12/26
my half brother is Bald and made a ton of money in RE. it's ...
cowgod
  02/11/26
Why did you mention he’s Bald, I can’t spot the ...
OYT and the Indie Reprieve
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Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  02/12/26
he's saying anybody can do it
Kenneth Play
  02/12/26
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cowgod
  02/12/26
you're Bald too, aren't you
CapTTTainFalcon
  02/12/26
No afaik
cowgod
  02/12/26
land always appreciates in value (they're not making any mor...
norwood ultra
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Date: February 11th, 2026 6:11 PM
Author: ....;..;...;;;.....;;......;;


Typically the entire increase in value is due to the land. The house itself depreciates or stays with inflation at most. Post Covid was not the norm.

If you build a $1,000,000 (building cost) house on a $300,000 piece of land, all your growth will be from that $300,000. Even if the land value doubled you’ve only gone up 23%.

This is why the the S&P destroys real estate long term

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49664117)



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Date: February 11th, 2026 6:22 PM
Author: ~~(> ' ' )>

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49664131)



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Date: February 11th, 2026 6:22 PM
Author: woah (hitler did nothing wrong)

S&P destroys real estate only if your bank will give you low cost 5x leverage. 20% down but you keep 100% of the gains at attractive costs of capital relative to equities or options.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49664130)



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Date: February 11th, 2026 6:43 PM
Author: Buy your next house instantly with Zellow!

(Guy with 0% mortgage)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49664167)



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Date: February 11th, 2026 6:51 PM
Author: woah (hitler did nothing wrong)

I'm talking about rental property but the point still stands. If you rent, you're paying profit on top of the cost of the landlord's ownership.

The only optimal solution is to tedpill and invest 100% of your salary in low cost index funds while you live in the woods with no electricity or running water.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49664175)



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Date: February 11th, 2026 7:14 PM
Author: ....;..;...;;;.....;;......;;


The math still doesn’t work plus you can trade on margin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49664217)



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Date: February 11th, 2026 10:16 PM
Author: woah (hitler did nothing wrong)

You can't get margin cheaper than a conforming 30 year fixed mortgage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49664677)



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Date: February 11th, 2026 10:18 PM
Author: Madison Avenue Lemming Enslaved to Conformity

You also get $500K in tax-free capital gains on a primary residence, and you need someplace to live anyway and rentals are shitty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49664681)



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Date: February 12th, 2026 11:44 AM
Author: gunneratttt gives free BJs to brocolli haired zoom (gunneratttt)

plus the freedom of being able to do what you want with your property.

renting versus owning is a lot like working for a salary and kwning your own business. yeah you're on the hook if shit goes sideways but you don't have someone over you telling tou what you can do, can kick you to the curb, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49665700)



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Date: February 11th, 2026 6:39 PM
Author: coquettish nigress

Oversimplified, but generally accurate (setting aside the leverage issue, which OP ignores)

This is why it's retarded to buy a home that's less than 20 years old.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49664160)



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Date: February 11th, 2026 7:15 PM
Author: ....;..;...;;;.....;;......;;


I don’t ignore anything.

You can get a loan for margin trading too.

Leverage doesn’t negate my OP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49664218)



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Date: February 12th, 2026 11:52 AM
Author: gunneratttt gives free BJs to brocolli haired zoom (gunneratttt)

it's not so much the depreciation but that build quality on new homes is SPS these days aside from customs. i guess that's more about depreciation in real terms though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49665718)



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Date: February 11th, 2026 10:45 PM
Author: Kenneth Play (emotional girth)

it sure seems like index funds are a lot easier and more certain.

all the RE stories i hear are like "it's easy but you've gotta be a shark and buy the right hyperlocal properties and either self-manage or pay someone else to, and not get fucked by bad tenants, or any of the other random things that can explode with real estate and cost a ton"

i'd be happy to be wrong if there was an easy way for me to get into RE and profit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49664731)



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Date: February 11th, 2026 10:47 PM
Author: Frutiger AeroEra was, is, & will be 180 (link)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49664738)



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Date: February 11th, 2026 10:49 PM
Author: cowgod

If you already have money, of course you want it in RE. If you were a trust fund kid in today's world, would you rather inherit a big family business or a ton of real estate? literally no matter what bullshit happens with technology or "the dollar" or "AI," people will live in places and go to other places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49664752)



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Date: February 11th, 2026 11:02 PM
Author: Kenneth Play (emotional girth)

what about just buying REITs? or is there a networth where you think you should buy a rental property or whatever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49664801)



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Date: February 11th, 2026 10:46 PM
Author: ..;.;:.;.;..:..;,;,;.

Property taxes eat you alive. The billionaire wealth tax is real for real estate and it never stops!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49664735)



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Date: February 11th, 2026 11:00 PM
Author: Theseus

I don't pay any property tax on my paid off primary residence. It's awesome

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49664793)



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Date: February 12th, 2026 12:03 PM
Author: Ass Sunstein

how

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49665736)



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Date: February 12th, 2026 12:09 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitchbois)

Yeah I need to learn this hack. I own my house, but the state act's like I still have to pay them property tax. Maybe if I just clarify to them that I OWN it outright??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49665745)



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Date: February 12th, 2026 12:22 PM
Author: gunneratttt gives free BJs to brocolli haired zoom (gunneratttt)

i bet shitlib hawaii has some indigenous property tax break that you can scam liz warren style

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49665771)



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Date: February 11th, 2026 10:48 PM
Author: Covid was a Hoax

the real way to look at it is that your monthly payment is your rent and whatever hypothetical residual value you or your kids get out of selling it is a bonus that has to be netted by the cost of renting somewhere else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49664746)



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Date: February 12th, 2026 12:03 PM
Author: Ass Sunstein



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49665737)



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Date: February 11th, 2026 10:55 PM
Author: cowgod

my half brother is Bald and made a ton of money in RE. it's a "job." you have to out-work or out-smart or out-jew or out-luck the next guy if you want to get ahead. 1031 exchanges, carried interest, and REP status all help. also, timing. Graham Stephen (that Short-looking guy on youtube) can't find a single thing to invest in rn. there might be a Crash this year imo. Discuss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49664774)



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Date: February 12th, 2026 11:56 AM
Author: OYT and the Indie Reprieve ( )

Why did you mention he’s Bald, I can’t spot the relevance if I’m to be quite frank.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49665726)



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Date: February 12th, 2026 12:10 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitchbois)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49665748)



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Date: February 12th, 2026 12:57 PM
Author: Kenneth Play (emotional girth)

he's saying anybody can do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49665852)



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Date: February 12th, 2026 1:22 PM
Author: cowgod



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49665945)



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Date: February 12th, 2026 12:58 PM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

you're Bald too, aren't you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49665856)



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Date: February 12th, 2026 1:22 PM
Author: cowgod

No afaik

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49665946)



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Date: February 12th, 2026 1:26 PM
Author: norwood ultra

land always appreciates in value (they're not making any more of it) and requires no maintenance. it's a foolproof path to wealth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833801&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49665953)