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Jag can we get an update on the situation w cock hungry milf who told her husban

That you're actually her gay confidant
Bateful station
  10/19/24
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Salmon box office
  10/19/24
i nutted in her over the weekend and she took plan b without...
racy bespoke forum mother
  10/23/24
180
Cyan comical hall lettuce
  10/23/24
thought you two were gonna lay low
Hyperactive cerebral parlor
  10/23/24
yeah we said we would cool off but never did cucky remains ...
racy bespoke forum mother
  10/23/24
what's the status emotionally? are you and hurt planning on ...
idiotic sandwich
  10/23/24
it's been hard on her. she doesn't wanna live a lie anymore ...
racy bespoke forum mother
  10/23/24
"her mom pretended to be in the hospital with a heart a...
Salmon box office
  10/23/24
yeah, when i saw this, my first thought was "jag's love...
idiotic sandwich
  10/23/24
*dances out of thread*
Salmon box office
  10/23/24
well, the good news is, if this all does come crashing down,...
idiotic sandwich
  10/23/24
HAHAHAHAHAH you're funny.
Salmon box office
  10/23/24
i mean, on the off-chance jag's lover won't take responsibil...
idiotic sandwich
  10/23/24
how does it benefit me for her to take responsibility she ...
racy bespoke forum mother
  10/23/24
this has nothing to do with you. i'm riffing on the fact tha...
idiotic sandwich
  10/23/24
you have an excellent grasp of women's social dynamics
Talented institution
  10/24/24
if the unthinkable happens and jag's lover is completely unr...
idiotic sandwich
  10/24/24
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Talented institution
  10/24/24
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coral mood
  10/24/24
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Talented institution
  10/24/24
yes this is how women work
Talented institution
  10/24/24
seems like this is terminal. i advise you to get out but i k...
idiotic sandwich
  10/23/24
Let me give you a protip: A relationship with a woman who is...
aquamarine coldplay fan
  10/23/24
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Salmon box office
  10/23/24
you're wrong. our indian md who tells her he loves her befor...
idiotic sandwich
  10/23/24
harsh but fair jag feel free to share more pics in due cour...
Curious shimmering resort trump supporter
  10/23/24
i think the days of me getting pics are over i don't want h...
racy bespoke forum mother
  10/23/24
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Brilliant Passionate Corner Nowag
  10/23/24
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self-centered sepia kitchen community account
  10/24/24
Tbh this isn't actually true. There are lots of instances of...
Bateful station
  10/24/24
(guy whose "wife" fucks BBC **without** his knowle...
aquamarine coldplay fan
  10/24/24
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Boyish State
  10/24/24
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Bateful station
  03/31/26
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silver slippery fat ankles stead
  10/24/24
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coral mood
  10/24/24
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Deep brass property main people
  10/23/24
she was loyal for 22 years.. someone as hot as her could hav...
racy bespoke forum mother
  10/23/24
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Deep brass property main people
  10/23/24
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Brilliant Passionate Corner Nowag
  10/24/24
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misunderstood coiffed theater alpha
  10/24/24
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coral mood
  10/24/24
you seem unintelligent
Violent gold corn cake
  10/24/24
Lmfao 180 Keep enjoying this as long as it lasts. Gonna ...
Bateful station
  10/23/24
do you every worry that you're a piece of shit and will even...
Beta theater stage liquid oxygen
  10/23/24
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Salmon box office
  10/23/24
if this isn't flame, the whole "i'm gay!" defense ...
idiotic sandwich
  10/23/24
decent likelyhood its flame, not once has he said "not ...
Brilliant Passionate Corner Nowag
  10/23/24
XO is just bored middle aged bald lawyers egging on people t...
beady-eyed lay
  10/24/24
if i found out a surgeon was fucking my wife i'd break his f...
beady-eyed lay
  10/24/24
if i found out i got cucked by an indian i'd just kill mysel...
idiotic sandwich
  10/24/24
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misunderstood coiffed theater alpha
  10/24/24
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bronze market haunted graveyard
  10/24/24
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coral mood
  10/24/24
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Salmon box office
  10/24/24
This is highly credited, but you could also: - gather evide...
Talented institution
  10/24/24
No LFOD is right here It takes 15 years minimum to become a...
coral mood
  10/24/24
Irl lol Shut up you scrawny Ukie kike Always the midge...
Bateful station
  10/24/24
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Boyish State
  10/24/24
they can't help but see themselves as the little cuck
Cyan comical hall lettuce
  10/24/24
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Bateful station
  03/31/26
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coral mood
  10/24/24
i dunno why you guys all put yourself in cucky's shoes
racy bespoke forum mother
  10/24/24
Cr they should imagine themselves as the one under the 37 yo...
Razzmatazz menage jewess
  10/24/24
i have 5.9% body fat if you believe the machines at the gym
racy bespoke forum mother
  10/24/24
Update?
coral mood
  03/31/26


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Date: October 19th, 2024 12:59 PM
Author: Bateful station

That you're actually her gay confidant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48215170)



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Date: October 19th, 2024 12:59 PM
Author: Salmon box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48215171)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 7:33 PM
Author: racy bespoke forum mother

i nutted in her over the weekend and she took plan b without telling me.. so i came in her again yesterday

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232448)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 7:34 PM
Author: Cyan comical hall lettuce

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232456)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 7:37 PM
Author: Hyperactive cerebral parlor

thought you two were gonna lay low

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232462)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 7:41 PM
Author: racy bespoke forum mother

yeah we said we would cool off but never did

cucky remains suspicious but we don't contact or see each other outside work anymore. except when she calls me from random landlines

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232483)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 7:44 PM
Author: idiotic sandwich

what's the status emotionally? are you and hurt planning on eloping? are you hoping that will happen? where are you at on the odds of "this is going to end in disaster" versus "this is gonna be a awesome forever"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232494)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 7:56 PM
Author: racy bespoke forum mother

it's been hard on her. she doesn't wanna live a lie anymore and i made her keep lying.

her husband squealed to her whole family (and his kids) that she said she wanted a divorce. her mom pretended to be in the hospital with a heart attack and her dad told her "look what you're doing to your mother". it was all made up

so she's isolated at home but i think is slowly building back normalcy. although she says she refuses to be intimate with him anymore. they apparently fucked 3-4x/week before at her husband's insistence, but she tells me she would just lie there wanting it to be over... who knows.

anyway i don't know what i want. i do love her and have an emotional and physical connection with her that i've never had before. it's hard to tear myself away. but the ugly reality of breaking up a family might ruin us.

would like to just keep it going as is, but it's untenable because she's ultimately a birdbrain and will almost certainly get caught again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232549)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:05 PM
Author: Salmon box office

"her mom pretended to be in the hospital with a heart attack and her dad told her "look what you're doing to your mother". it was all made up"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232593)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:08 PM
Author: idiotic sandwich

yeah, when i saw this, my first thought was "jag's lover is probably so stable and demure because her mom's dramatic attention-seeking meltdowns taught her how *not* to be"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232605)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:13 PM
Author: Salmon box office

*dances out of thread*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232619)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:14 PM
Author: idiotic sandwich

well, the good news is, if this all does come crashing down, jag's lover will learn a valuable lesson in loyalty and take full accountability for her actions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232623)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:15 PM
Author: Salmon box office

HAHAHAHAHAH

you're funny.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232626)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:20 PM
Author: idiotic sandwich

i mean, on the off-chance jag's lover won't take responsibility, surely she has surrounded herself with female friends who will logically and firmly confront her with the facts. at that point she will have no choice but to calm down and accept fault.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232642)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:38 PM
Author: racy bespoke forum mother

how does it benefit me for her to take responsibility

she says she wants a divorce regardless of what happens between us. i at least convinced her to bide her time until this blows over and she's had time to think. if she's insistent on this, i'd rather she leave on her own terms. bringing infidelity to light will just hurt a bunch of innocent parties

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232721)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:44 PM
Author: idiotic sandwich

this has nothing to do with you. i'm riffing on the fact that if (when) this blows up, she will inevitably cast herself as the victim and refuse to take real accountability.

she might say "i know it was fucked up and it was wrong" but it will shortly be followed with "but i was in such a loveless marriage for so long where my emotional and physical needs were ignored for years..."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232755)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 11:58 AM
Author: Talented institution

you have an excellent grasp of women's social dynamics

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48234960)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 12:02 PM
Author: idiotic sandwich

if the unthinkable happens and jag's lover is completely unreceptive to reason and logic, the worst case scenario is that they'll get a divorce, and the husband will be rid of her. because jag's lover is solely at fault, emotionally unhinged, and refuses to take accountability, and the hubby is completely blameless, a court would surely divide their assets and determine custody in favor of the innocent husband.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48234965)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 3:44 PM
Author: Talented institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48235850)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:20 PM
Author: coral mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48236316)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 11:58 AM
Author: Talented institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48234957)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 11:58 AM
Author: Talented institution

yes this is how women work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48234955)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:10 PM
Author: idiotic sandwich

seems like this is terminal. i advise you to get out but i know you won't (and don't judge you + have enthusiastically ran into a trainwreck too).

99.99% chance that ends is a blaze of glory. hope it happens around MPM!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232611)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:15 PM
Author: aquamarine coldplay fan

Let me give you a protip: A relationship with a woman who is unfaithful in her marriage will never work out. She will fuck someone else besides you and will be a shit wife. Setting aside the morality of it, if you want to fuck her, fuck her, but stop thinking with your dick and saying that you "love her" you fucking faggot. hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232628)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:16 PM
Author: Salmon box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232632)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:21 PM
Author: idiotic sandwich

you're wrong. our indian md who tells her he loves her before she returns to her marital bed (nbd, she told jag it's dead) will surely have the firm hand and discipline to fix this misguided woman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232648)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:23 PM
Author: Curious shimmering resort trump supporter

harsh but fair

jag feel free to share more pics in due course - every single man wants to fuck the shit out of a coworker or all of them, and you’re living the dream

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232654)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:34 PM
Author: racy bespoke forum mother

i think the days of me getting pics are over

i don't want her to contact me at all, she's proven that she can't handle discretion

but she just messaged me on instagram like a retarded slimepit. she'll delete it immediately but she's asking for trouble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232694)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:37 PM
Author: Brilliant Passionate Corner Nowag



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232713)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 11:46 AM
Author: self-centered sepia kitchen community account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48234899)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 11:49 AM
Author: Bateful station

Tbh this isn't actually true. There are lots of instances of spouses leaving their total loser spouse and marrying someone else and going on to have a happy and successful second marriage

The cold hard truth is that some people are total losers, and unfortunately some non losers end up making a bad decision by marrying them. And these situations sometimes resolve by the desirable person leaving the undesirable person and finding another desirable person instead. It's really not that unusual

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48234919)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 12:25 PM
Author: aquamarine coldplay fan

(guy whose "wife" fucks BBC **without** his knowledge)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48235028)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:01 PM
Author: Boyish State



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48236220)



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Date: March 31st, 2026 6:04 PM
Author: Bateful station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49784315)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 1:23 PM
Author: silver slippery fat ankles stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48235249)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:20 PM
Author: coral mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48236319)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:38 PM
Author: Deep brass property main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232720)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:46 PM
Author: racy bespoke forum mother

she was loyal for 22 years.. someone as hot as her could have cheated a long time ago

i realize how i sound right now but i don't think a real relationship is in the cards anyway. she won't give me kids so where would we even go if we got together

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232766)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:48 PM
Author: Deep brass property main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232775)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:11 PM
Author: Brilliant Passionate Corner Nowag



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48236276)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:22 PM
Author: misunderstood coiffed theater alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48236328)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:24 PM
Author: coral mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48236345)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:07 PM
Author: Violent gold corn cake

you seem unintelligent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48236253)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:45 PM
Author: Bateful station

Lmfao 180

Keep enjoying this as long as it lasts. Gonna be one of your favorite memories in your life

Don’t listen to the faux self righteous envious fags on this board

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232761)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:01 PM
Author: Beta theater stage liquid oxygen

do you every worry that you're a piece of shit and will eventually get got for this immoral behavior?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232571)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:01 PM
Author: Salmon box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232572)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:11 PM
Author: idiotic sandwich

if this isn't flame, the whole "i'm gay!" defense really increases the odds jag gets got. before he wasn't *directly* responsible for deceiving the husband.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232614)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:38 PM
Author: Brilliant Passionate Corner Nowag

decent likelyhood its flame, not once has he said "not flame" but, highly entertaining nonetheless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48232722)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 12:04 PM
Author: beady-eyed lay

XO is just bored middle aged bald lawyers egging on people to their own personal destruction now.

tasteless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48234969)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 1:21 PM
Author: beady-eyed lay

if i found out a surgeon was fucking my wife i'd break his fucking hands. i know i'd get off with probation and that fucker would never use a scalpel again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48235241)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 1:35 PM
Author: idiotic sandwich

if i found out i got cucked by an indian i'd just kill myself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48235283)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:02 PM
Author: misunderstood coiffed theater alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48236223)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:03 PM
Author: bronze market haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48236227)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:21 PM
Author: coral mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48236321)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 1:37 PM
Author: Salmon box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48235291)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 3:45 PM
Author: Talented institution

This is highly credited, but you could also:

- gather evidence of cheating

- hide assets

- divorce wife

- she goes to him and fucks up his life after awhile

- turn kids against wife

- you kill him after five years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48235852)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:22 PM
Author: coral mood

No LFOD is right here

It takes 15 years minimum to become a heart surgeon

Down the fucking tubes in an instant. Diabolical

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48236323)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 3:52 PM
Author: Bateful station

Irl lol

Shut up you scrawny Ukie kike

Always the midgets who talk like this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48235878)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:00 PM
Author: Boyish State



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48236217)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:48 PM
Author: Cyan comical hall lettuce

they can't help but see themselves as the little cuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48236465)



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Date: March 31st, 2026 6:05 PM
Author: Bateful station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49784317)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:21 PM
Author: coral mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48236320)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:47 PM
Author: racy bespoke forum mother

i dunno why you guys all put yourself in cucky's shoes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#48236463)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:50 PM
Author: Razzmatazz menage jewess

Cr they should imagine themselves as the one under the 37 yo potbellied surgical resident mmm mmm mmmm

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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:56 PM
Author: racy bespoke forum mother

i have 5.9% body fat if you believe the machines at the gym

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Date: March 31st, 2026 6:03 PM
Author: coral mood

Update?

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