Really visceral reminder that it’s physiologically impossible for a person under ~125 iq to consider an idea in the abstract on its own merits, without accepting it, as the Aristotle quote goes. Even Steve sailer is making a fool out of himself on this, stumbling around, totally not getting it

And the next layer of redpill on this topic that’s left unstated by BAP is that none of these lesser men would ever be capable or willing to do what it would take to *actually* enshrine and enforce an HBD political regime - namely, cold and unapologetic and naked violent force

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47243967)

While it is on one hand heartening that in this year Bo Wineguard is calling Bronze Age Pervert an anti racist cuck on the tl on the other this is the problem I’m talking about…that Bo and others mean for these truths not just to be spoken on here and covertly or indirectly translated into spirit or policy but to be translated into an explicit political program to counter wokeness, DEI or the basis of affirmative action etc ; and my point is this is a mistake and actually impossible.

HBD or pointing out inherent racial differences is a good counter to some of the claims made to justify wokeness in argument on here or maybe even in truth but won’t translate as you think into a political program. “Racial disparities exist; it’s because of discrimination/slavery/theft”… “no it’s because of organic results owing to inherent differences between races and groups.” Sounds good? It’s even mostly the truth. It’s also a mistake for politicians or bureaucrats or that kind of public figure to say. Why?

First of all the groups that are “with less” won’t be pacified by this. Quite the contrary. Second, the groups who are high achieving naturally or own things and who are now disadvantaged by wokeness also won’t accept this for all kinds of reasons. There is vanity: many won’t like to hear they have what they have by anything other than “hard work.” There’s vain empathy: in fact I think it’s more likely you’ll have majorities agree to racial redistribution and affirmative action to “correct natural wrongs” than that they’ll accept their “natural due.” In fact Rawlsian moralism that is now widely adopted says just this.

But more fundamentally it is impossible in a mixed state of whatever kind (racial religious etc mix) to openly declare that the differences in outcomes are due to inborn differences and survive as a democracy. While I don’t care for democracy and would be happy to see a Gobineau style racial dictatorship in place, these misguided people think you can Rock the Voot with something like Gobineau or other type scientific racism. What would result if politicians openly started to say these things is vast public outrage, tumults, etc…but in fact it won’t even get there.

Everyone except intellectuals knows it won’t get there. Woke isn’t in fact accepted at this moment because people believe the left’s justifications for it. A majority probably already rejects it on grounds of racial equality; a powerful minority accepts it because they hate white people or because they hate inequality as such —and they’ll continue to hate inequality whatever its origins. Neither side will be persuaded by the HBD case and both will reject any politician foolish enough to make these arguments. The number of people who accept wokeness because they genuinely believe disparities are due to systemic racism is tiny and from among them those who’ll be convinced by your IQ graphs tinier. Everyone will sense you are promoting a truth that if made political can only be sustained by force; it will be rejected before it gets a hearing.

By contrast everything you want would anyway be achieved if race blind policies were genuinely proposed and pursued; and a large number of people including intelligent or influential people are primed to accept this position. It isn’t at all true that “cuckservative” politicians have tried this in USA. Such measures would include a stop on any kind of public census or statistics by race, an agreement that race can’t be any object of consideration in govt or even public discussion; social disapproval of self identification by race, a legal ban on racial and ethnic nepotism, and no govt recognition of chauvinist or ethnic or religious or race based private groups or organizations. Race totally absent from public discourse. Think that sounds unlikely? You’re probably right but getting people to agree races are unequal by nature is far more unlikely.

TLDR: modern racially mixed democracies are probably fucked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47244061)

i get the sense that he wants to manage the decline so that the ruling regime/elites will enjoy as much stability as possible as the US flips over into nonwhite status. why the fuck should i support that goal? i'd rather have the opposite (maximal disruption for elites).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47245900)

treating it as this big taboo is counterproductive; race will always be informally talked about and SHOULD be talked about. and any conservatism that tries to purge itself of anything that smells hereditarian is useless. but explicitly arguing for genetic race differences is not the big priority people make it out to be and anti-hereditarianism is not the crucial leftoid axiom people think it is; they’ve evolved so far from the kind of moderation where they would even need to make that kind of argument to justify themselves. they’re simply opposed to anyone having something others don’t.

it’s possible to talk about race in a way that scalds commies while leaving scope for every type of normal person to get something out of it, from XO posters to black moderates, while advancing a pro-civilization agenda. and this generally means NOT making genetic race differences the central argument while not actually denying it either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47250157)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47244655)

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5464769&mc=30&forum_id=2#47226753

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47244052)

The real subtext for BAP's posts on this are his Jewishness combined with a sharp rise in semite-noticing. It's all over the place now, and he's well aware.

"Hey uh, actually race blindness is the only solution. Sucks but it's reality haha!" is meant to avoid a situation where a radicalized identitarian white bloc + random browns collectively realize who dominates the country and world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47244071)

Wow, Twitter personality "Bronze Age Pervert" aka "BAP" aka IRL homosexual Jewish man (((Costin Vlad Alamariu))) is such a dark genius -- it obviously takes an extremely elite IQ, of the like possessed only by a few "Dark Elves" such as himself and apparently (((the OP))), to TRULY grasp the FULL MAGNITUDE of the HARSH REALITY that modern Western multiracial democracies are fucked and totally unsustainable in the long term and that there is "no political solution," if you will.

Thank you for sharing this profound and disturbing wisdom with us dumb goyim cattle, (((OP))). Oy, what a mitzvah it is for us to have you on this bort!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47244104)

@bronzeagemantis

23h

“Demographics is not in fact destiny …political and spiritual will is…”

When the native Fijians were outnumbered by Tamils and lost an election fair because they had been demographically overcome in their country they didn’t shrug and decide to lecture their young men to make more kids. They pursued a…political solution first. Don’t let cowardly conservatives and populists tell you that you can’t. “Yes you can.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47244552)

I got the impression from reactions that he was basically saying that explicitly acknowledged HBD would never be politically feasible.

But can't we reconstruct meritocracy and (to rip off that dunce Howard Gardner) evolve it into something like a politically palatable "multiple meritocracies"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47244718)

No because that makes it harder for jews to enslave people and then Costin would have to die for Israel himself instead of having some White “goy” do it while he gets buttfucked by aids infected niggers

Thank you for playing though! Wrong answer still

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47244738)

I’m phone poasting so I’m not going to go into detail why, but BAPs posts from yesterday touch on this too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47245067)

-- Otto von Kirbsmarck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47246750)

- it's funny

- it's self-deprecating

- it's vicious towards libs in ways they cannot process and so cannot assail

- it's message was just "young men should be handsome and have adventures"

- it promoted "billions must die" when most were still RomneyCons

He hasn't reached that success again because the first one took 8 years of shitpoasting on fora to create, and because its success made him believe his own hype. He can never be that dumb and fun again.

He also, likely, got extreme pushback from his family (well connected wealthy jews) and his mentors (well connected wealthy jews), and since has set his sights on the following agenda:

1. Christianity sucks

2. There's no point in being racist

3. Israel is actually based

4. Libertarian tax cuts

It's a persona, I guess, and so many people owe their redpilling to him that he will always be defended, but it's all kind of lame and boring now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47244741)

these people really can't help themselves

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47245846)

the current ones try to be, but they're already too faggy and domesticated, as BAP himself points out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47246163)

Open to indications I'm wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47247762)

1. "if youre white american, it's not your problem." But given the status quo, this results in pro-israel

2. "the browns are animals." okay fine, but this results in pro-israel

3. most of his ancillary opinions also run jewish defense in the end. Eg. "Public sexuality, obscenity, etc. are great." Just so happens if one accepts this, anti-jewish energy loses steam. "Christianity is marxoid garbage." Huh. "There's nothing to win talking about race." Okay.

One way or another, even when he uses language about kikes, etc., there's never any real point to opposing them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47247939)

1. I'm not so sure that it does. Wholly adopting this position means the US withdraws its support from kikeland.

2. Only inasmuch as the browns rely on our support, which afaik they don't

3. Most compelling here is the point about his attacks on Christianity. I don't think that BAP really has a positive vision that distinguishes vitalism from just kike degeneracy with eugenics, which I don't think is good or tenable. I do think that generally he is correct that even if race IQ science is the real root of why we propose or oppose certain things, it's necessary to find a politically palatable rationale. That said, I think that anons and any facefags that are able should continue to push the limits of what is publicly acceptable; has already given us the biggest overton window shift in racial discussion in 60 years.

My biggest gripe with him is the one I articulate under #3.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47250445)

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47247021)

what is the point of this charade of having a bunch of jews whose entire careers are being racist pretending they're not racist because jews fired the president of Harvard for not being enough of a slave for jews? are these inbred retards blind, suffering from memory loss?

these "people" are just gross

this is all so tiresome

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47247037)

White Identity is here and we don't want you. Go away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47247040)

Another great thread from him today about how Asians helped destroy the “meritocratic” system in US education

I’m sure our board chinks are going to be mad as fuck about this one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47247918)

https://images.app.goo.gl/HEcu172iwPdhBMSE9

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5469849&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#47247927)