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Nukes freak people out because there's only one big explosion, that's it
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Date: March 15th, 2026 3:27 PM Author: contagious obsidian temple boiling water The actual destructive force isn't that impressive. Prompt radiation kills everyone within 500m and you can dial up the fireball to kill people within a few km radius, and that's with an air burst. Ground burst is will be dirty but the will kill fewer people since the fireball will be much smaller. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49745849) |
Date: March 15th, 2026 3:29 PM Author: Provocative offensive space lettuce It's more the massive radius I think (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49745856) |
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Date: March 15th, 2026 3:30 PM Author: contagious obsidian temple boiling water In order to make a really big fireball you have to do an air burst, which means you're not penetrating any bunkers. People in underground shelters will be fine, as will any underground nuclear facilities. Even people in buildings may be protected well enough. Furthermore there will be very little radioactive fallout (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49745861) |
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Date: March 15th, 2026 3:41 PM Author: unhinged appetizing home legend I think you are leaning a little too hard on technicalities here to reach a naively optimistic conclusion about human outcomes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49745878) |
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Date: March 15th, 2026 3:44 PM Author: contagious obsidian temple boiling water I think Iranian officials have had 80 years to study WWII and are well aware the US still has nukes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49745884) |
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Date: March 15th, 2026 3:37 PM Author: unhinged appetizing home legend Heat and blast kill more people than prompt radiation. Mechanical collapse of buildings and thermal vaporization are killing tons of people. IDK how many people are actually dying from prompt radiation like gamma rays or whatever. Plus I think delayed radiation is playing more into peoples fear of nukes than you are letting on here.
idk though maybe you are talking neutron bombs? |
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Date: March 15th, 2026 3:42 PM Author: contagious obsidian temple boiling water They dialed up the fireball on fat man and little boy so that anyone killed by prompt radiation would get burned up. The fear was that if we left those corpses there Japan would suspect we used chemical weapons. Sure we can keep making the fireballs bigger and bigger, but Iran is a very mountainous country so that limits what you can with an air burst. You're also not going to hit anything underground with an air burst (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49745881) |
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Date: March 15th, 2026 3:47 PM Author: arousing brunch one nuke could kill like 10,000,000k in NYC lol
btw you don't need a missile, just take the warhead on a boat from north korea, no one will notice, CIA is incompetent af |
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Date: March 15th, 2026 3:51 PM Author: contagious obsidian temple boiling water That's what the US government said in the 1960s when pussy-ass JFK started pushing the myth that nukes were "too destructive." All of our paranoia about nukes is an artifact of our own government's lies. Junk science (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49745901) |
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Date: March 15th, 2026 4:03 PM Author: unhinged appetizing home legend People are still afraid of them but I feel like we are heading toward a phase-shift where that is no longer the case. Nuke use could become NORMALIZED, maybe even part of everyday life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49745929) |
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Date: March 15th, 2026 4:07 PM Author: contagious obsidian temple boiling water That's exactly the fear. During the Cuban missile crisis there were people in the room who thought nukes already had been normalized during WWII (LeMay). They weren't fearful going nuclear again.
By all accounts, JFK himself was freaked out by LeMay's view and tried to combat it by presenting nukes as an existential threat to all humanity. He kicked LeMay out of the situation room and put McNamara in charge of Vietnam, then he died |
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Date: March 15th, 2026 4:16 PM Author: unhinged appetizing home legend I feel like they are so non-normalized that people assume that any nuke use will quickly escalate into MAD type scenarios. But I think its not *just* a matter of people thinking nukes are special. Once they start getting used its true that each side starts reasoning about the other side's hidden thresholds, false alarms, delegation chains etc. People respond to the worst plausible model consistent with evidence when a nuke gets used. There are plenty of real reasons for the fear around them. But I also agree with you that they are less destructive than what is commonly assumed and that full MAD scenarios from nuke use and other escalation models are over-predicted (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49745956) |
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Date: March 15th, 2026 4:34 PM Author: contagious obsidian temple boiling water Assuming you're gen X or younger, your boomer parents learned about MAD in elementary school, watched The Day After on TV, and instilled in you the same fear that was instilled in them during the 1960s. 1940s/50s thinking was much different (as evidenced by all the wild nuclear tests we did back then). The Cuban Missile Crisis would not have been crisis unless many people in 1962 were unafraid to use nukes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49746024) |
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Date: March 15th, 2026 4:29 PM Author: stimulating alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49746007) |
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Date: March 15th, 2026 3:48 PM Author: Fear-inspiring apoplectic boltzmann keepsake machete (NSAM building Fuhrerbunker in his closet out of copper pipes and video cards) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5301927#49745892) |