And here's why it's a good thing!

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JD Vance, the Republican nominee for vice president, invoked Springfield in July to criticize the Biden administration’s border policies. That month, the city’s mayor and manager went on the cable news program “Fox & Friends” calling for assistance to handle an influx that they blamed on the federal government. Then, during the presidential debate last week, former President Donald J. Trump repeated a debunked claim about Haitians in Springfield abducting and eating household pets.

What’s behind the rise of Haitians in Springfield?

Thousands of new jobs had been created there, thanks to a successful effort by the city’s leadership and Chamber of Commerce to attract new business to Springfield, which sits between Columbus and Dayton. Once a manufacturing hub, Springfield saw its economy shrink after factories closed and jobs migrated overseas. By about 2015, its population had dwindled to under 60,000, from about 80,000 in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

Companies that set up shop, however, confronted a dire labor shortage.

Haitians in Florida, Haiti and South America heard from friends and family about Springfield and its need for workers. They began arriving to take jobs in warehouses, manufacturing and the service sector, and employers urged the new workers to encourage other Haitians to join them.

What started as a trickle swelled to a surge after the Covid-19 pandemic, coinciding with deepening political and economic instability in Haiti after the assassination of the president in 2021.

How many Haitians live in Springfield?

Estimates range between 12,000 and 20,000, according to city officials who have spoken with The Times. The estimates are based on data from the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles, Springfield’s public schools, health care providers in the area and social service agencies, the officials said. While South Florida, Boston and New York have long had large concentrations of Haitians, they have also settled in sizable numbers elsewhere in Ohio, as well as in Indiana, Kentucky and other states.

How did the immigrants in Springfield arrive in the United States, and with what immigration status?

Most Haitians in Springfield are in the United States legally, city officials said.

Even though there have been periods of relative calm in Haiti, that nation has long been plagued by political turmoil and violence, with periods of foreign occupation and exploitation, decades of dictatorship and a succession of humanitarian crises. Haitians have been emigrating in large numbers for a long time, seeking refuge and opportunities in the United States, as well as in other countries including Brazil, Canada, Chile and Mexico.

Some of the Haitians in Springfield have lived n the United States for many years and have permanent legal status, or green cards. Some crossed the southern border or flew directly to the United States over the last few years.

Many are beneficiaries of Temporary Protected Status, a federal designation that gives nationals of a country in crisis — typically after a natural disaster or political upheaval — the opportunity to remain in the United States legally, regardless of whether they entered the country lawfully.

The Biden administration granted Temporary Protected Status through Feb. 3, 2026 for Haitians who arrived in the United States on or before June 3, 2024, and that status can be renewed. Haiti is one of a number of countries whose nationals can qualify for TPS, including Ukraine, which was invaded by Russia and is at war.

Some of the Haitians in Springfield have applied for asylum, which allows them to remain in the country until their case has been adjudicated by immigration authorities. Still others have been aided by a Biden administration initiative that enables people from Haiti who have a financial sponsor in the United States to apply to enter the country and remain here legally for two years. They do not receive green cards.

The various programs made many of the Haitian newcomers to Springfield eligible to work legally, making them particularly attractive to employers.

People covered by Temporary Protected Status are entitled by law to receive health and nutrition benefits as well as other public benefits, such as food stamps.

What challenges has Springfield faced as a result of the rapid growth of its immigrant population?

Springfield has struggled to handle soaring demand placed on health care, housing, schools and roads.

Some initiatives already underway include offering English language classes, driving courses and instruction about finances and the U.S. banking system.

Gov. Mike DeWine announced last week that the state would provide Springfield with $2.5 million to ease strains on primary health care and would deploy members of the state highway patrol to improve road safety.

The mayor of Springfield, Rob Rue, said that he was still hoping to receive federal assistance.

Miriam Jordan reports from a grass roots perspective on immigrants and their impact on the demographics, society and economy of the United States. More about Miriam Jord

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So they ARE coming from South America? Trump wasn't nuts when he suggested sending them back to Venezuela?

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lol what exactly are the "plentiful" jobs in this obscure town in the middle of a declining rust belt state? This paragraph later in the article ostinsibly starts to explain it but then just trials off

"Thousands of new jobs had been created there, thanks to a successful effort by the city’s leadership and Chamber of Commerce to attract new business to Springfield, which sits between Columbus and Dayton. Once a manufacturing hub, Springfield saw its economy shrink after factories closed and jobs migrated overseas. By about 2015, its population had dwindled to under 60,000, from about 80,000 in the late 1960s and early 1970s."

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The only one you ever see cited anywhere -- and you see it a lot -- is the Amazon distribution center. That is probably the only thing they have in addition to whatever gas stations, convenience stores and Dollar Stores sprout up wherever an Amazon distribution center opens. I suspect its become an Amazon company town in a sense, and these Haitians have one option if they want employment. It would make sense -- one arrives, starts working at Amazon, tells others to come join. It doesn't make as much sense that Haitians working in varied jobs all over town would lure other Haitians. Those jobs are everywhere in the US so what would be the point.

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Wait what the fuck does the assassinated POTUS have to do with any of this?

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Libs that delta is 2/3 the bottom line figure of 12,000. How can a NYT population estimate vary by 8,000 in any part of Ohio?

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Ok, let's assume for the sake of argument that these orgs did not all provide registries with names that could be checked for duplicates. One of them reported 12k, another reported 20k, and the others fell in between. Candidates are:

1. Ohio Department of Motor Vehicles: IMHO the likely source of the 12k figure, since others could have DLs from other states (Florida lol) or just be totally undocumented since they ran over the border from South America. It's also listed first (see #4). It would also be weird for NYT to even report the lower figures if Ohio reported issuing 20k DLs to Springfield Hatians, since the topline figure would be one you could take to the bank.

2. Springfield’s public schools: How the fuck would they even have internal records on who's Hatian? Are they just treating every black kid as "Haitian?" What if Hatians don't have kids that age? This seems like the shittiest way to count Hatians. They'd have to infer the adult population based on recent random sampling in that neighborhood. Whatever numbers they spit out could be interesting though if they are not outliers. What if they come in dead center at 16k? Does that make them more likely to be accurate (it doesn't)?

3. Health care providers in the area: again, what the fuck would they know about the population of Hatians who don't come there for services? For that matter, how is any health care provider keeping track of national origin or any of that shit? They axe for SSN and address so they can bill u. A dood with a gunshot wound isn't getting ignored in the ER just because he can't find his wallet. See #2.

4. Social service agencies: this is probably where they got the 20k figure. Notice how they are listed at the end.

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What is the point of all this? Who are these businesses in the middle of nowhere who are profiting off of all this state aid? It seems like the entire community is investing heavily in this foreign workforce. Why won't they invest in our own people? Americans don't get any of these investments.

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also in 20 yrs those same haitians will be paying for your kids govt aid

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https://hiring.amazon.com/our-team/refugees#/

Amazon needs refugees to get IRSbuxx. Town gets Amazon jerbs.

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So basically some number between 1,000 and 999,999

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"Over the last few years, many immigrants from Haiti have settled in Springfield, Ohio, drawn by the low cost of living and plentiful jobs."

as if either of those things 'drew' them to springfield, ohio

libs have scum for brains

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Why does it benefit the existing citizens that all these Haitians were located in their area? It clearly benefits the factory owners, thus GDP goes up and its good!.

But does it benefit anyone who was fighting for higher wages at those factories? Does it benefit the people who used those schools? Or hospitals? Does the light uptick in factory profits offset all the interpreters the school has to hire?

The private school tuition paid by citizens pulling their kids out of now-failing schools?

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