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Cons what the fuck is "absolute immunity?" Is that a legal concept?

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razzle-dazzle chapel gunner
  01/08/26
yes it is
Smoky Impertinent Alpha Gaping
  01/08/26
Why does it exist?
razzle-dazzle chapel gunner
  01/08/26
because White people (your Betters) decided that it should
Smoky Impertinent Alpha Gaping
  01/08/26
Why?
razzle-dazzle chapel gunner
  01/08/26
yes, it is
sexy orchestra pit
  01/08/26
Why does it exist?
razzle-dazzle chapel gunner
  01/08/26
who cares
sexy orchestra pit
  01/08/26
Anyone?
razzle-dazzle chapel gunner
  01/08/26
(Stephen Miller’s intern)
Boyish ceo
  01/08/26
Never heard of it.
ultramarine mind-boggling potus
  01/08/26
It's the immunity that applies to judges and (in certain cir...
wonderful gaming laptop point
  01/08/26
So judges and legislators can murder people and no one can a...
razzle-dazzle chapel gunner
  01/08/26
it applies only to acts done in the scope of the role.
costumed frozen parlour pozpig
  01/08/26
Wow. So the DHS donkey who violated DHS policy doesn't enjoy...
razzle-dazzle chapel gunner
  01/08/26
i have no idea if absolute immunity applies to the MN killin...
costumed frozen parlour pozpig
  01/08/26
DHS agents violating DHS policies are operating within the s...
razzle-dazzle chapel gunner
  01/08/26
that's the entire point, and the power, of absolute immunity...
costumed frozen parlour pozpig
  01/08/26
Violating policy = doing your job? Wow, government employmen...
razzle-dazzle chapel gunner
  01/08/26
i'm not sure you and i are focusing on the key issue. abs...
costumed frozen parlour pozpig
  01/08/26
So there are no consequences for "fucking up" if y...
razzle-dazzle chapel gunner
  01/08/26
absolute immunity is quite rare, as i understand it. qual...
costumed frozen parlour pozpig
  01/08/26
I'm stupid so please bear with me: if there's a written agen...
razzle-dazzle chapel gunner
  01/08/26
that's my understanding, yes. AI is a doctrine for fuck-up s...
costumed frozen parlour pozpig
  01/09/26
If he accidentally shot the driver I can see it, but this gu...
razzle-dazzle chapel gunner
  01/09/26


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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:18 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle chapel gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49573120)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:18 PM
Author: Smoky Impertinent Alpha Gaping

yes it is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49573122)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:35 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle chapel gunner

Why does it exist?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49573211)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:44 PM
Author: Smoky Impertinent Alpha Gaping

because White people (your Betters) decided that it should

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49573240)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:29 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle chapel gunner

Why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49573418)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:19 PM
Author: sexy orchestra pit

yes, it is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49573125)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:22 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle chapel gunner

Why does it exist?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49573148)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:33 PM
Author: sexy orchestra pit

who cares

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49573205)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:34 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle chapel gunner

Anyone?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49573210)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:20 PM
Author: Boyish ceo

(Stephen Miller’s intern)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49573130)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:21 PM
Author: ultramarine mind-boggling potus

Never heard of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49573138)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:35 PM
Author: wonderful gaming laptop point

It's the immunity that applies to judges and (in certain circumstances) prosecutors and legislators.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49573213)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:15 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle chapel gunner

So judges and legislators can murder people and no one can arrest them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49573368)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:26 PM
Author: costumed frozen parlour pozpig

it applies only to acts done in the scope of the role.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49573411)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:29 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle chapel gunner

Wow. So the DHS donkey who violated DHS policy doesn't enjoy absolute immunity?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49573417)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:27 PM
Author: costumed frozen parlour pozpig

i have no idea if absolute immunity applies to the MN killing.

in general, though, the question of whether something is in the scope does not turn on whether policy was violated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49573790)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:36 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle chapel gunner

DHS agents violating DHS policies are operating within the scope of their duties?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49573813)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:26 PM
Author: costumed frozen parlour pozpig

that's the entire point, and the power, of absolute immunity. there is no need to decide whether a judge or legislator who is following policy should get immunity.

the entire issue arises when a judge or legislator is doing their job and massively errs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49573965)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:27 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle chapel gunner

Violating policy = doing your job? Wow, government employment is amazing!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49573971)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:33 PM
Author: costumed frozen parlour pozpig

i'm not sure you and i are focusing on the key issue.

absolute immunity becomes an issue when someone arguably fucks up. it doesn't become an issue when someone follows policy.

so if a judge makes a massively erroneous ruling but wasn't bribed, etc., then it was within the scope of the job but was outside policy -- and the judge gets absolute immunity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49573986)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:34 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle chapel gunner

So there are no consequences for "fucking up" if you work for the government

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49573991)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:21 PM
Author: costumed frozen parlour pozpig

absolute immunity is quite rare, as i understand it.

qualified immunity is more common, but even there it is broadly applied. cons have wanted to trim back or even decimate QI but libs have opposed that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49574651)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:38 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle chapel gunner

I'm stupid so please bear with me: if there's a written agency policy that says "don't shoot moving vehicles," but an agency official shoots into a moving a vehicle, can the agency official still claim he was acting within the scope of his duties?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49574741)



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Date: January 9th, 2026 12:05 AM
Author: costumed frozen parlour pozpig

that's my understanding, yes. AI is a doctrine for fuck-up situations. but if you're doing more or less the official function, even if you get it wrong, it's within the scope.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49574789)



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Date: January 9th, 2026 12:15 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle chapel gunner

If he accidentally shot the driver I can see it, but this guy had extensive training and indemnifying him is a bad look for any employer. I guess I'll leave it there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49574803)