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rating poasters as bizarre classical music from the 20th/21st centuries

mostly solo piano.
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/17/26
requesting Chopin pls
Odious Lavender Indian Lodge
  01/17/26
Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to ...
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/17/26
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Bull headed mahogany range background story
  01/17/26
The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli --...
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/17/26
wild, ty!
Bull headed mahogany range background story
  01/17/26
There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: yo...
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/17/26
...
seedy umber jap lay
  01/17/26
that kind of music generally sucks, but content
White prole
  01/17/26
Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical f...
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/17/26
180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the u...
White prole
  01/17/26
The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style...
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/17/26
but content tp
Exhilarant set
  01/17/26
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shaky smoky school
  01/17/26
Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering...
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/17/26
Jcm here
chestnut infuriating crackhouse alpha
  01/17/26
Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtu...
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/17/26
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seedy umber jap lay
  01/17/26
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Idiotic Sneaky Criminal Church Building
  01/17/26
Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and o...
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/17/26
this is completely preposterous
seedy umber jap lay
  01/17/26
...
Idiotic Sneaky Criminal Church Building
  01/17/26
I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/17/26
lmao
seedy umber jap lay
  01/17/26
And the composer too. Almost forgot.
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/17/26
...
seedy umber jap lay
  01/17/26
This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out ...
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/18/26
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Blathering cheese-eating ladyboy
  01/17/26
Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: http...
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/17/26
Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant
Blathering cheese-eating ladyboy
  01/17/26
Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit...
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/17/26
I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt p...
seedy umber jap lay
  01/17/26
I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's ...
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/17/26
180 thank you you used the phrase "obviously a cynical...
seedy umber jap lay
  01/17/26
No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some ...
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/17/26
can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano y...
seedy umber jap lay
  01/17/26
Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so ...
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/17/26
link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never...
seedy umber jap lay
  01/17/26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/17/26
ty
seedy umber jap lay
  01/17/26
Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings o...
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/17/26
Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/17/26
...
Geriatric chad jew
  01/17/26
"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahash...
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/17/26
...
exciting drab clown
  01/17/26
is this a compliment? are we friends?
Geriatric chad jew
  01/17/26
This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/17/26
I love you so much
Geriatric chad jew
  01/17/26
...
exciting drab clown
  01/17/26
Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beeth...
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/17/26
...
Concupiscible Goal In Life
  01/17/26
I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think...
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/18/26
do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth interesting te...
Bull headed mahogany range background story
  01/17/26
I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this partic...
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/17/26
understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is fr...
Bull headed mahogany range background story
  01/17/26
Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one ...
rough-skinned forum becky
  01/18/26
...
Bull headed mahogany range background story
  01/18/26


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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:20 AM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

mostly solo piano.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596192)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:23 AM
Author: Odious Lavender Indian Lodge

requesting Chopin pls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596197)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:27 AM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to an early 20th-century reintepretation of Chopin's etudes by Godowsky. Not particularly bizarre, just difficult to perform. Apologies in advance for any disappointment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuEa1XLEVSw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596202)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:24 AM
Author: Bull headed mahogany range background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596198)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:29 AM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli -- to be performed with rage per the composer's instructions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_dn3ORLq6s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596206)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: Bull headed mahogany range background story

wild, ty!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596339)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:37 PM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: you either love it or violently hate it and think it's just noise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596419)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: seedy umber jap lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596874)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: White prole

that kind of music generally sucks, but content

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596394)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan, but that's true of most composers with a similar style. Personally I can't stand any of his music. Enjoy! Just look at how pretentious the piece's title is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYMXbM0RCeU



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596404)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:45 PM
Author: White prole

180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the unreadble notation and beyond pretentious title push it over the top

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49597223)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style is taken to the point where I could create the same semi-random but pointlessly complex music despite me having no talent as a composer. That's why you can't take Ferneyhough or similar composers seriously. But they do want you to take them seriously. After all, Ferneyhough made it all the way to Stanford with this gibberish "music."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49597685)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: Exhilarant set

but content tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49597001)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:41 PM
Author: shaky smoky school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596425)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering Sorabji's typically serious style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFZYqLqBHOc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596437)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: chestnut infuriating crackhouse alpha

Jcm here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596525)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:18 PM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aR0naIp9eM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596530)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: seedy umber jap lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596884)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:20 PM
Author: Idiotic Sneaky Criminal Church Building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596538)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:55 PM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and one foot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyy3CRuMQnc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596865)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: seedy umber jap lay

this is completely preposterous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596919)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:41 PM
Author: Idiotic Sneaky Criminal Church Building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596958)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:47 PM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596979)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: seedy umber jap lay

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596985)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

And the composer too. Almost forgot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596999)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:48 PM
Author: seedy umber jap lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49597089)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 9:19 AM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out his "Innocent Prisoner" for piano and voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LIw8ykSmGU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49598324)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: Blathering cheese-eating ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596869)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKfFaSWr4m0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596870)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: Blathering cheese-eating ladyboy

Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596948)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit of dissonance and complexity without devolving into randomness. Actually it goes too far, but there's much worse out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596986)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:05 PM
Author: seedy umber jap lay

I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt performance of John Cage's As Slow As Possible. Rate me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_as_Possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596877)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's his "Phrygian Gates": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DixKnE9HqIU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596883)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: seedy umber jap lay

180 thank you

you used the phrase "obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan" above and that is how I view Cage but others may disagree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596891)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:16 PM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some of his music is actually enjoyable. For instance, his pieces for prepared piano.

Ferneyhough, the fraud and charlatan, is just SPS with no redeeming qualities. It's just unnecessary complexity and near-randomness that ordinary people laugh at (and should).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596904)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: seedy umber jap lay

can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano you enjoyed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596915)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:34 PM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so I don't remember specific pieces. The interesting ones had minimalist aspects IIRC. The problem with the recordings is the piano preparation and resultant sound varies wildly with each recording. So some recordings sound dull while others are more lively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596940)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:36 PM
Author: seedy umber jap lay

link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never been able to enjoy anything by Cage but I'm open to reassessing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596945)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:40 PM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596952)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: seedy umber jap lay

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596984)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:52 PM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings of Cage's works were my favorite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596991)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596993)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: Geriatric chad jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596950)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:48 PM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahashi's recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbUgAXt75s8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49596980)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: exciting drab clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49597105)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:25 PM
Author: Geriatric chad jew

is this a compliment? are we friends?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49597348)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49597403)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: Geriatric chad jew

I love you so much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49597475)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: exciting drab clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49597104)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:02 PM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beethoven's last piano sonata, for mechanical piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gyJkYWdWWo (gets interesting after about 8-10 minutes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49597137)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:00 PM
Author: Concupiscible Goal In Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49597425)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think of anything more appropriate than Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 6 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Y1bZYi60M

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49598298)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:10 PM
Author: Bull headed mahogany range background story

do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth

interesting technique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYtybgToH2Q&t=28s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49597568)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:43 PM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this particular piece. Classical music snobs would probably thumb their noses at this piece, but the snobs can be ignored. All that matters is whether you like it.

The technique of modifying the sound of the piano by interacting with the strings themselves is not new. Henry Cowell first explored this around 100 or so years ago. John Cage took the idea further in his pieces for prepared piano, which I mentioned earlier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49597648)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: Bull headed mahogany range background story

understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is from cage - i like this a lot more than him though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49597813)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:54 AM
Author: rough-skinned forum becky

Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one of Cage's teachers, if I remember correctly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49598296)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 10:26 AM
Author: Bull headed mahogany range background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5307129#49598425)