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Question about European feudalism.
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: Vengeful philosopher-king Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: duck-like point just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: duck-like point (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49077411) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49117359) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49128622) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49141968) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49143857) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49156580) |
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49172980) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49421862) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49421881) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49424474) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49425035) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49425543) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49427654) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49436681) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49436785) |
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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49439167) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49441985) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49454945) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49455274) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49457596) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49458108) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49461550) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49463581) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49464738) |
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Date: November 27th, 2025 5:48 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49466319) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49467160) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49478445) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49484240) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49484832) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49492316) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49493000) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:23 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49495268) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 3:57 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49497250) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 9:55 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49500993) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:07 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49515504) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:04 AM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49518561) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 8:59 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49529071) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 8:47 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49532458) |
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Date: December 24th, 2025 12:00 AM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49536032) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 6:54 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49545634) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 7:05 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49545665) |
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Date: December 29th, 2025 9:19 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49548639) |
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Date: January 4th, 2026 8:56 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49562700) |
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Date: January 6th, 2026 7:39 PM Author: duck-like point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49567730) |
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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:44 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49584404) |
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Date: January 14th, 2026 6:47 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49589879) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: Talented crotch blood rage Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: silver galvanic nowag regret Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: Talented crotch blood rage (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: silver galvanic nowag regret They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: Talented crotch blood rage read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: Hyperventilating umber kitty orchestra pit Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: unholy mahogany parlour boiling water (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49098592) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: laughsome abode nibblets (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: swollen pink theater stage what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: scarlet hyperactive locale cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: Embarrassed to the bone aromatic degenerate I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: Hyperventilating umber kitty orchestra pit teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49065206) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: Well-lubricated Saffron Pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: zombie-like razzle circlehead i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: drunken ape legal warrant Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: Floppy ladyboy really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: Stirring Spot It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: avocado striped hyena ticket booth it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: Stirring Spot Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378",#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: Floppy ladyboy actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |