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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: trip brindle church Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: submissive forum wrinkle just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: submissive forum wrinkle (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: submissive forum wrinkle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: submissive forum wrinkle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: submissive forum wrinkle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: submissive forum wrinkle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: submissive forum wrinkle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#49077411) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: submissive forum wrinkle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: submissive forum wrinkle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#49105012) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: submissive forum wrinkle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#49141968) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: submissive forum wrinkle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: submissive forum wrinkle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#49421862) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: submissive forum wrinkle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: submissive forum wrinkle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#49424474) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM Author: submissive forum wrinkle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#49461550) |
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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:44 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#49584404) |
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Date: January 14th, 2026 6:47 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#49589879) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: Charismatic mexican Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: soul-stirring theater Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: Charismatic mexican (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: soul-stirring theater They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: Charismatic mexican read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: unholy abnormal gaping temple Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: Excitant bright chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#49098592) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: Odious State (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: Stirring alcoholic senate toaster what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#48970037) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: pearl bearded trailer park sweet tailpipe I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: unholy abnormal gaping temple teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#49065206) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: judgmental vigorous factory reset button giraffe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: Cheese-eating library regret i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: gold magical circlehead Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: Tripping violet stage halford really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: pink elastic band It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: Bateful Coldplay Fan Locale it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: pink elastic band Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5309378#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: Tripping violet stage halford actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |