Date: February 20th, 2026 8:27 AM
Author: cell phones
Among his living contemporaries and followers, the miracle stories were a given. They appear in Mark, Q, Matthean and Lukan source material, independently.
Paul, writing in the 50s, takes for granted that Jesus' miracle working is well known and doesnt feel any need to argue for it happening.
But even among non-Jesus people, Josephus writes around 94 that its well known that Jesus did "surprising deeds". The Talmud explains Jesus' miracles as sorcery.
No one in any historical record, religious, historical or otherwise, friendly or hostile, begins from a claim that "this shit didnt happen". And their audience, of course, included many people who were contemporaneous witnesses to the miracles.
The easiest "this shit didnt happen" skepticism for 21st C people is to presume the stories are salesmanship and cultish aggrandizement that occurred over time, after death, in accord with social dynamics we know well from cult members and other irrational people, or salesmen.
But that doesnt match the record at all here.
The miracle stories were clearly contemporaneous, unchallenged, and the single most well known thing about Jesus in his own lifetime.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836617&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49682112)