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rating poasters as bizarre classical music from the 20th/21st centuries

mostly solo piano.
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/17/26
requesting Chopin pls
Zombie-like Exciting Step-uncle's House
  01/17/26
Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to ...
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/17/26
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Vigorous brass cruise ship
  01/17/26
The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli --...
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/17/26
wild, ty!
Vigorous brass cruise ship
  01/17/26
There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: yo...
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/17/26
...
Maize house-broken university mental disorder
  01/17/26
that kind of music generally sucks, but content
Magenta self-centered shrine black woman
  01/17/26
Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical f...
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/17/26
180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the u...
Magenta self-centered shrine black woman
  01/17/26
The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style...
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/17/26
but content tp
Marvelous sick hunting ground school
  01/17/26
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Honey-headed nubile mad cow disease
  01/17/26
Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering...
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/17/26
Jcm here
exhilarant zippy partner
  01/17/26
Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtu...
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/17/26
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Maize house-broken university mental disorder
  01/17/26
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Splenetic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and o...
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/17/26
this is completely preposterous
Maize house-broken university mental disorder
  01/17/26
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Splenetic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/17/26
lmao
Maize house-broken university mental disorder
  01/17/26
And the composer too. Almost forgot.
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/17/26
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Maize house-broken university mental disorder
  01/17/26
This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out ...
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/18/26
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Smoky kitchen liquid oxygen
  01/17/26
Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: http...
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/17/26
Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant
Smoky kitchen liquid oxygen
  01/17/26
Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit...
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/17/26
I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt p...
Maize house-broken university mental disorder
  01/17/26
I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's ...
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/17/26
180 thank you you used the phrase "obviously a cynical...
Maize house-broken university mental disorder
  01/17/26
No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some ...
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/17/26
can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano y...
Maize house-broken university mental disorder
  01/17/26
Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so ...
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/17/26
link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never...
Maize house-broken university mental disorder
  01/17/26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/17/26
ty
Maize house-broken university mental disorder
  01/17/26
Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings o...
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/17/26
Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/17/26
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titillating spruce stage juggernaut
  01/17/26
"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahash...
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/17/26
...
filthy corner
  01/17/26
is this a compliment? are we friends?
titillating spruce stage juggernaut
  01/17/26
This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/17/26
I love you so much
titillating spruce stage juggernaut
  01/17/26
...
filthy corner
  01/17/26
Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beeth...
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/17/26
...
Primrose Candlestick Maker
  01/17/26
I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think...
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/18/26
do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth interesting te...
Vigorous brass cruise ship
  01/17/26
I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this partic...
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/17/26
understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is fr...
Vigorous brass cruise ship
  01/17/26
Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one ...
Idiotic opaque property personal credit line
  01/18/26
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Vigorous brass cruise ship
  01/18/26


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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:20 AM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

mostly solo piano.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596192)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:23 AM
Author: Zombie-like Exciting Step-uncle's House

requesting Chopin pls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596197)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:27 AM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to an early 20th-century reintepretation of Chopin's etudes by Godowsky. Not particularly bizarre, just difficult to perform. Apologies in advance for any disappointment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuEa1XLEVSw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596202)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:24 AM
Author: Vigorous brass cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596198)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:29 AM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli -- to be performed with rage per the composer's instructions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_dn3ORLq6s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596206)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: Vigorous brass cruise ship

wild, ty!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596339)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:37 PM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: you either love it or violently hate it and think it's just noise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596419)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: Maize house-broken university mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596874)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: Magenta self-centered shrine black woman

that kind of music generally sucks, but content

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596394)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan, but that's true of most composers with a similar style. Personally I can't stand any of his music. Enjoy! Just look at how pretentious the piece's title is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYMXbM0RCeU



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596404)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:45 PM
Author: Magenta self-centered shrine black woman

180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the unreadble notation and beyond pretentious title push it over the top

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49597223)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style is taken to the point where I could create the same semi-random but pointlessly complex music despite me having no talent as a composer. That's why you can't take Ferneyhough or similar composers seriously. But they do want you to take them seriously. After all, Ferneyhough made it all the way to Stanford with this gibberish "music."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49597685)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: Marvelous sick hunting ground school

but content tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49597001)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:41 PM
Author: Honey-headed nubile mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596425)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering Sorabji's typically serious style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFZYqLqBHOc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596437)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: exhilarant zippy partner

Jcm here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596525)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:18 PM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aR0naIp9eM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596530)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: Maize house-broken university mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596884)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:20 PM
Author: Splenetic orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596538)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:55 PM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and one foot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyy3CRuMQnc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596865)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: Maize house-broken university mental disorder

this is completely preposterous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596919)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:41 PM
Author: Splenetic orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596958)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:47 PM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596979)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: Maize house-broken university mental disorder

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596985)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

And the composer too. Almost forgot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596999)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:48 PM
Author: Maize house-broken university mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49597089)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 9:19 AM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out his "Innocent Prisoner" for piano and voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LIw8ykSmGU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49598324)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: Smoky kitchen liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596869)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKfFaSWr4m0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596870)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: Smoky kitchen liquid oxygen

Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596948)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit of dissonance and complexity without devolving into randomness. Actually it goes too far, but there's much worse out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596986)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:05 PM
Author: Maize house-broken university mental disorder

I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt performance of John Cage's As Slow As Possible. Rate me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_as_Possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596877)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's his "Phrygian Gates": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DixKnE9HqIU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596883)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: Maize house-broken university mental disorder

180 thank you

you used the phrase "obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan" above and that is how I view Cage but others may disagree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596891)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:16 PM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some of his music is actually enjoyable. For instance, his pieces for prepared piano.

Ferneyhough, the fraud and charlatan, is just SPS with no redeeming qualities. It's just unnecessary complexity and near-randomness that ordinary people laugh at (and should).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596904)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: Maize house-broken university mental disorder

can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano you enjoyed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596915)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:34 PM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so I don't remember specific pieces. The interesting ones had minimalist aspects IIRC. The problem with the recordings is the piano preparation and resultant sound varies wildly with each recording. So some recordings sound dull while others are more lively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596940)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:36 PM
Author: Maize house-broken university mental disorder

link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never been able to enjoy anything by Cage but I'm open to reassessing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596945)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:40 PM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596952)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: Maize house-broken university mental disorder

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596984)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:52 PM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings of Cage's works were my favorite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596991)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596993)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: titillating spruce stage juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596950)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:48 PM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahashi's recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbUgAXt75s8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49596980)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: filthy corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49597105)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:25 PM
Author: titillating spruce stage juggernaut

is this a compliment? are we friends?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49597348)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49597403)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: titillating spruce stage juggernaut

I love you so much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49597475)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: filthy corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49597104)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:02 PM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beethoven's last piano sonata, for mechanical piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gyJkYWdWWo (gets interesting after about 8-10 minutes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49597137)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:00 PM
Author: Primrose Candlestick Maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49597425)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think of anything more appropriate than Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 6 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Y1bZYi60M

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49598298)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:10 PM
Author: Vigorous brass cruise ship

do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth

interesting technique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYtybgToH2Q&t=28s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49597568)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:43 PM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this particular piece. Classical music snobs would probably thumb their noses at this piece, but the snobs can be ignored. All that matters is whether you like it.

The technique of modifying the sound of the piano by interacting with the strings themselves is not new. Henry Cowell first explored this around 100 or so years ago. John Cage took the idea further in his pieces for prepared piano, which I mentioned earlier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49597648)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: Vigorous brass cruise ship

understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is from cage - i like this a lot more than him though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49597813)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:54 AM
Author: Idiotic opaque property personal credit line

Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one of Cage's teachers, if I remember correctly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49598296)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 10:26 AM
Author: Vigorous brass cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49598425)