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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: lavender meetinghouse Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49077411) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49117359) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49128622) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49141968) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49143857) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49156580) |
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49172980) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49421862) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49424474) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49425543) |
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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49439167) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49441985) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49454945) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49455274) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49457596) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: Cordovan Irate Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49458108) |
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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:47 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49604959) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: Brass appetizing stage background story Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: bateful useless whorehouse volcanic crater Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: Brass appetizing stage background story (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: bateful useless whorehouse volcanic crater They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: Brass appetizing stage background story read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: Odious Charcoal Library Hissy Fit Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49065184) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: Carmine High-end Tanning Salon Therapy what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#48970037) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: Hairraiser stock car I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: Odious Charcoal Library Hissy Fit teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49065206) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: haunting ticket booth hominid i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: alcoholic abnormal headpube church building Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: Very Tactful Medicated Location Coffee Pot really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: Passionate crawly messiness friendly grandma It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: Stimulating partner it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: Passionate crawly messiness friendly grandma Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310074#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: Very Tactful Medicated Location Coffee Pot actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |