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This is the only article u need 2 read 2 understand US arms transfers to Israel
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Date: September 29th, 2024 6:41 PM Author: https://imgur.com/a/IkQnGlr Here's the article. I'll post relevant sections of text in separate comments for easy navigation.
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Date: September 29th, 2024 6:43 PM Author: https://imgur.com/a/IkQnGlr The process of arms delivery to Israel is opaque, and the pipeline for weapons to the country is long. The United States has sent tens of thousands of weapons to the country since the Oct. 7 killings by Hamas attackers, but many were approved by Congress and the State Department long ago and funded with money mandated by the Obama-era agreement, known as a memorandum of understanding. “At any given time, delivery on these sales is constantly taking place,” said Dana Stroul, who recently departed as the Pentagon’s top official for Middle East affairs.
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First of all, even former DOD employees are not allowed to talk about this shit without prior approval. That one sentence by that one woman would have required DOD approval, no matter what. However, it would not have required any other agency's approval.
But also, she still works at DOD, or has some kind of affiliation that entitles her to a web site there:
https://www.defense.gov/About/Biographies/Biography/Article/2539910/
They don't even tell you that in the fuckin article. |
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Date: September 29th, 2024 6:57 PM Author: stevie dung very waspy looking (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603429&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310477",#48144139) |
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Date: September 29th, 2024 7:19 PM Author: https://imgur.com/a/IkQnGlr Career timeline requires Excel understand. Looks like she got out in the middle of Trump I, then got back during Biden I, then got out again in 2023. In the meantime she's allowed to blab? Neither the Biden or Trump people can tell her to shut up?
https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/experts/dana-stroul
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Date: September 29th, 2024 7:24 PM Author: https://imgur.com/a/IkQnGlr There it is:
https://youtu.be/E4nYuEMtuwQ?t=47 |
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Date: September 29th, 2024 6:44 PM Author: dup (No Future) Legislation mandates that the U.S. government help Israel maintain force superiority — or its “qualitative military edge” — over other Middle Eastern nations.
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Date: September 29th, 2024 6:44 PM Author: https://imgur.com/a/IkQnGlr Bingo. What that means in reality is that there's nothing we can make that they can't have. F-35? Israel gets it no questions asked. Apaches? whatever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603429&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310477",#48144113) |
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Date: September 29th, 2024 6:45 PM Author: fex they are sending arms to israel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603429&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310477",#48144115) |
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Date: September 29th, 2024 6:45 PM Author: dup (No Future) Martin Indyk, a special envoy for Israeli-Palestinian negotiations in the Obama administration, said “the problem with this American largess is that it has bred a sense of entitlement among Israelis over the years.”
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Date: September 29th, 2024 6:47 PM Author: https://imgur.com/a/IkQnGlr It's always worth googling anyone who goes on the record in these articles. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603429&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310477",#48144123) |
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Date: September 29th, 2024 6:48 PM Author: dup (No Future) Indyk graduated from the University of Sydney in 1972 with a Bachelor of Economics. He then moved to Israel to take postgraduate courses at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. While was living in Jerusalem preparing for university courses, the Yom Kippur War broke out, and Indyk spent the rest of the war volunteering on kibbutz Alumim in southern Israel, an experience he called "a defining moment in my life." Indyk stated that he had even considered immigrating to Israel at the time.[6][7] He returned to graduate school and received a PhD in international relations from the Australian National University in 1977.[4]
Indyk immigrated to the United States in 1982 and started work with a lobbying group in Washington, D.C. He became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 1993, a week before joining the National Security Council.[8] Indyk was a Reform Jew.[3][9]
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Date: September 29th, 2024 6:50 PM Author: https://imgur.com/a/IkQnGlr He det since dat article was published in April (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5603429&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310477",#48144127) |
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Date: September 29th, 2024 6:54 PM Author: https://imgur.com/a/IkQnGlr The State Department’s Bureau of Political-Military Affairs, which manages foreign defense relationships and arms transfers, typically acts within two days of hearing about a buyer’s fulfillment request to tell the Defense Department to issue the letter. If defense officials decide to fill the case by placing an order with a U.S. weapons maker, the assembly and shipment would normally take years. For Israel’s immediate needs since Oct. 7, defense officials have drawn from U.S. military stockpiles, including one in Israel.
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What are the odds DOD lobbied State Department and asked to have its weapons stockpiles depleted immediately, so that it could wait years for replacements instead of making Israel wait? |
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Date: September 29th, 2024 6:59 PM Author: https://imgur.com/a/IkQnGlr Israel is awaiting State Department approval for 24,000 assault rifles it requested before Oct. 7 — a direct commercial order that has drawn scrutiny from some officials in the department and lawmakers because of Israeli settler violence against Palestinians in the West Bank.
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First of all, the first thing we all said when we saw the first pics on day one of the Gaza operation was "why are the IDF carrying rifles from the 1980s?" This could explain that.
But second of all, that shows you the raw power shitlibs in one wing of the State Department can wield over State Department as a whole. "Settler violence" was the rationale for holding up a shipment of 24,000 rifles? What the hell did that legal memo look like? |
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Date: September 29th, 2024 7:07 PM Author: https://imgur.com/a/IkQnGlr Since Oct. 7, Israel has asked the United States to expedite filling cases from long-existing orders, U.S. officials said. State and Pentagon officials have complied. Given the politics around Israel, any change would have to come from Mr. Biden.
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The only way to interpret the last statement is that there is a disagreement at the cabinet level, and DOD does not have tie-breaking authority. This is what you'd expect it to look like if DOD isn't in charge and has to fight with State Department. If an interagency matter touches on any kind of political shit, it gets stovepiped to the cabinet-level appointee, whoever the fuck that is (Attorney General for example is not a "Secretary" but is still cabinet-level). If they can't solve it they have to go to the Chief of Staff ("Biden").
Separately, POTUS is Commander in Chief, but in reality delegates all that shit to someone else in the military chain. If this actually has to get kicked up to Biden, it means it's not anything the military has any control over anywhere in its own chain. That's just administrative law. |
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Date: September 29th, 2024 7:15 PM Author: https://imgur.com/a/IkQnGlr Israel’s recent requested fulfillments — and the resulting drawdowns from U.S. stockpiles — have included munitions ranging from 250- to 2,000-pound bombs. Many cases have been for 500-pound bombs, said a U.S. official, who like others spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivities and opacity around arms sales.
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At the time this article came out, Israel had just dropped 500lb bombs on four WCK cars, so the focus of attention was on who was responsible for sending 500lb bombs to Israel. The idea of transferring 2000lb bombs was unthinkable in April, because we thought maybe we goofed with the 500 pounders. This is why Israel never dropped any 500lb (or larger) bombs on Gaza after the WCK bombings. Prior to that time they had been dropping 2000lb bombs no problem, then suddenly they couldn't even drop 500lbs on Gaza (Lebanon no problem). |