Representing a guy rn who will get 40yrs prison. Death penalty 100x more humane
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Date: September 27th, 2024 10:08 AM Author: 718-662-5970
Defendant convicted of an ugly crime of violence involving a firearm. To mitigate by saying what is not allowed in court -- it was merely a domestic thing. Women often cause domestic trouble. He pointed a gun at the gf and snatched her phone during the argument. Bad decisions entirely, but that's the context.
Goes to prison, comes out on probation, and actually does start to improve. Gets a prole job, is driving there one day, pulled over with no DL and a gun in the backseat.
Uberfucked, now will probably die in prison.
He is not trying to exculpate himself, but merely hopes for a manageable sentence. He won't get it - he will spend life in prison. He's suicidal right now.
If the State, acting under consensus of the governed, decides "we can never have this person in society again" -- fine. I disagree, but I can see the logic. The result, then, should be to simply put a bullet in the back of his head. It seems far more ethical than deciding he loses the status of society-member and so should be encaged in misery for his entire remaining existence.
Just kill these guys, honestly.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602180&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310477",#48136993) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 3:26 PM Author: 718-662-5970
Crime 1 was robbing gfs phone, aggravated to 1st degree felony by using a deadly weapon to wit a FA. Life max with 10 year mandatory minimum as a gun crime under 10-20-life. (10y MM first time, 20y MM second time, life third time.)
State can waive all that and did. He spent like 5 years in and was doing about five years on probation after. Condition of probation — no new cases or else this sentence can be re-addressed
Crime 2: driving with no DL and felon in possession of a firearm
Nothing major in itself but allows the state to seek something worse in crime 1. And it’s basically indefensible on his side unless you can argue a) he wasn’t driving, b) he had a DL, and c) he wasn’t in constructive possession of the gun
And for the purposes or violating the probation in case 1, they need only prove the DL issue not even the gun. Any criminal act, proven only by a preponderance of the evidence, violates his probation and triggers up to life
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602180&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310477",#48138160) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 10:28 AM
Author: .,.,..,,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.. ( )
You watch too many movies. Prison these days is chill bros playing cards, watching sports, working out, and consensually sucking each others dicks. It's a lot like your college dorm except you don't even have to worry about going to class.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602180&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310477",#48137045) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 2:59 PM
Author: .,.,..,,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.. ( )
Yeah, prison rape is mostly flame, after a few months with no women most guys are gay for the stay.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602180&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310477",#48138090) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 1:13 AM Author: mtl
There's a place called heaven
And a place called hell
A place called prison
And a place called jail
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602180&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310477",#48139536)
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Date: September 27th, 2024 11:23 AM
Author: ,...,.,.,.;,.;,.;.,..,.;,...,.,,.,;,.,.;,.,
He should have been executed for the first crime.
Most major crimes should simply get the death penalty.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602180&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310477",#48137196) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 12:51 PM
Author: ,...,.,.,.;,.;,.;.,..,.;,...,.,,.,;,.,.;,.,
Yep, death penalty. Deal with it!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602180&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310477",#48137490) |
Date: September 27th, 2024 12:10 PM Author: ...,....,,........
If the Judge revokes the entire balance of his parole, then that's fucking bullshit.
on the flip side: He's a fucking felon ON PAROLE. What part of his brain said, "Hey, maybe its a good idea for me to ride around with a gun. I'm sure nothing bad would happen if I got pulled over for speeding or some other dumb traffic shit"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602180&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310477",#48137328) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 12:12 PM
Author: .,.,..,,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.. ( )
On the plus side, though, not having a DL is surprisingly credited. If he gets pulled over he's fucked anyway so no point in bothering.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602180&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310477",#48137333) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 12:42 PM
Author: .,.,,.,..,,..,..,..,....,,...,.
Lol
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602180&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310477",#48137447) |
Date: September 27th, 2024 2:34 PM Author: xz
Of course it's more humane
The pieces you're missing is that the people involved in the correctional business are usually sadists unemployable in many other fields yet still of a sort of vital biopolitical use + big bucks in exploiting prison labor in the US
It's a grift
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602180&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310477",#48137987) |
Date: September 27th, 2024 3:42 PM Author: Based Archbishop Vigano TP (SSPX Masterman)
Killing our citizens isn't more ethical than life in prison.
That law is what is actually unethical. Your sentence should be based on what you did more recently, not some cobbled together nonsense like in his case.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602180&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310477",#48138207) |
Date: September 28th, 2024 1:01 AM Author: stolen pallor
An absolute fucking moron for having a gun under those circumstances.
In a humane world, the prosbro would show a bit of mercy and perhaps ensure he's not fucked for life just for being a felon in possession. Of course, we're not in a humane world, and some fucking asshole will have stars in their eyes at a max sentence.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602180&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310477",#48139525) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 1:06 AM Author: sealclubber
you were close.
the op is flame.
durr durr he had a gun is not flame
durr durr he had a gun in the backseat is flame
op added a stupid nonsensical fact to try to make the flame more interesting. backfired.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602180&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310477",#48139529) |
Date: September 29th, 2024 1:36 AM
Author: ,,...,..,.......,..,.....,.......,..,.,,
how do i keep reading about people with '100 felonies' getting out of jail after 6 months, including that 'Routh' guy who tried to shoot Trump and had been involved in a LITERAL fucking FIREFIGHT with the police, firing machine guns at them?
then we're still doing this shit, putting people in prison for tardlength sentences for 'snatching a phone' from a vagina?
there's got to be a middle ground.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602180&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310477",#48142225) |
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