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“Hey, I’ll buy you, and I’ll put a small f...
razzle house
  07/07/24
I’ve first hand seen this work out very favorably for ...
deep ivory rigor theater stage
  07/07/24
It works out great for management which is why it was invent...
razzle house
  07/07/24
So who is footing the bill in the end?
deep ivory rigor theater stage
  07/07/24
In the end if it works out then everyone is happy. If it doe...
razzle house
  07/07/24
The “company” doesnt exist aside from the new sh...
abnormal native foreskin
  07/07/24
...
bonkers orchestra pit
  07/09/24
aren't ipods crazy
Frisky yapping chapel
  07/07/24
it's just tax arbitrage. a good scam if u can get in on it
primrose irradiated friendly grandma old irish cottage
  07/07/24
I don’t think the shareholders selling the stock take ...
abnormal native foreskin
  07/07/24
That shit that went down with Red Lobster was crazy, basical...
Shimmering gaming laptop
  07/07/24
the seller doesn't owe the loan. the buyer owes the loan wit...
Excitant sandwich
  07/07/24
these people are idiots don’t bother
abnormal native foreskin
  07/07/24
It’s nothing like a home mortgage… The buyers a...
razzle house
  07/08/24
The debt is secured by the corporate shares. The bank takes...
abnormal native foreskin
  07/08/24
TCR and the bank doesn't care because the MD on the account ...
Turquoise Slap-happy Faggot Firefighter Business Firm
  07/08/24
And the employees
razzle house
  07/09/24
sure I guess but if your company is getting acquired by a PE...
abnormal native foreskin
  07/09/24
I want to know if there are any actual success stories where...
frum parlour
  07/09/24
Fortunoff sold to a PE fund in 2005 who then destroyed the n...
Turquoise Slap-happy Faggot Firefighter Business Firm
  07/09/24
How long is the long run? The issue is that eventually they ...
razzle house
  07/11/24
Dip Trip, Jew Fantasia
tan aggressive national security agency forum
  07/11/24


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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:28 PM
Author: razzle house

“Hey, I’ll buy you, and I’ll put a small fraction down and you will take a loan out yourself so I can buy you, and I’ll be paid back first”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#47818033)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:31 PM
Author: deep ivory rigor theater stage

I’ve first hand seen this work out very favorably for the target company but I guess that’s probably the exception given all the negative stuff you hear about PE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#47818043)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:40 PM
Author: razzle house

It works out great for management which is why it was invented. It’s just a scam to load up an entity with debt so management gets paid $$. It’s still weird they’re able to have so much leverage though and get so much of the upside. They’re literally converting company assets into their own equity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#47818089)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:50 PM
Author: deep ivory rigor theater stage

So who is footing the bill in the end?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#47818120)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:56 PM
Author: razzle house

In the end if it works out then everyone is happy. If it doesn’t then PE is still likely safe since they prioritize everything for themselves. Then the company and employees are fucked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#47818136)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:03 PM
Author: abnormal native foreskin

The “company” doesnt exist aside from the new shareholders.

Banks get fucked for lending money that doesn’t get paid back, and the employees too getting laid off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#47818150)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 2:26 AM
Author: bonkers orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#47823177)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:43 PM
Author: Frisky yapping chapel

aren't ipods crazy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#47818097)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:00 PM
Author: primrose irradiated friendly grandma old irish cottage

it's just tax arbitrage. a good scam if u can get in on it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#47818144)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:01 PM
Author: abnormal native foreskin

I don’t think the shareholders selling the stock take a loan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#47818146)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:14 PM
Author: Shimmering gaming laptop

That shit that went down with Red Lobster was crazy, basically legal fraud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#47818171)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:33 PM
Author: Excitant sandwich

the seller doesn't owe the loan. the buyer owes the loan with the purchased company as collateral. it is basically identical to a home mortgage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#47818212)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 8:02 PM
Author: abnormal native foreskin

these people are idiots don’t bother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#47818539)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 7:13 AM
Author: razzle house

It’s nothing like a home mortgage… The buyers are not personally guaranteeing the debt…

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#47819508)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 10:17 AM
Author: abnormal native foreskin

The debt is secured by the corporate shares. The bank takes the risk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#47819885)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 10:21 AM
Author: Turquoise Slap-happy Faggot Firefighter Business Firm

TCR and the bank doesn't care because the MD on the account will be an MD at another bank in 4 years when everything explodes and he is just chasing his 8 figure fee on the deal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#47819895)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 2:23 AM
Author: razzle house

And the employees

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#47823172)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 10:29 AM
Author: abnormal native foreskin

sure I guess but if your company is getting acquired by a PE firm it’s time to start looking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#47823664)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:55 AM
Author: frum parlour

I want to know if there are any actual success stories where PE taking over a family business actually worked in the long run. Seems like you hear a lot these days about PE targeting those types of companies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#47823284)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 6:06 AM
Author: Turquoise Slap-happy Faggot Firefighter Business Firm

Fortunoff sold to a PE fund in 2005 who then destroyed the nearly 100 year old franchise. Another PE took over in 2009 and did even more damage. The family then bought back the business for something like 5 cents on the dollar and fixed most of it and now it's back to over 30 stores.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#47823288)



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Date: July 11th, 2024 8:39 AM
Author: razzle house

How long is the long run? The issue is that eventually they overplay their hand and there’s too much debt to sustain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#47830347)



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Date: July 11th, 2024 8:40 AM
Author: tan aggressive national security agency forum

Dip Trip, Jew Fantasia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#47830348)