Nate Silver's thoughtful day-after musings on why the models were so wrong again
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Date: November 6th, 2024 12:45 PM Author: 38 BMI and Age Cat Mom Sobbing on TikTok (gunneratttt)
this outcome is within the first std. deviation of probable outcomes.
not even nate anymore (worse) but 538 has has 297 evs for trump as the third most likely outcome. with 312 being the most likely.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/
how do you think probability works?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5628539&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#48300090) |
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Date: November 6th, 2024 12:47 PM
Author: ;..........,,,...,,.;.,,...,,,;.;.
I can't find that anywhere
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Date: November 6th, 2024 2:16 PM Author: An 8-INT Orc AA'ing their way into mage school
"We had Trump winning somewhere between 219 and 312 votes 68% of the time!"
Lmao at this cope. I could have done that too.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5628539&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#48300902)
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Date: November 6th, 2024 2:53 PM Author: LathamTouchedMe
You're the one being obtuse. You don't see the difference between a simple poll aggregator and Silver's or 538's crazy complicated black-box model that includes shit like Fed Reserve economic data and "convention poll bounce smoother"? If they're going to make something more complicated, they're going to have to show why it's worth the trouble.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5628539&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#48301195)
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Date: November 6th, 2024 5:46 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,.,.,:,.,.:.,:.,:.::,.
they are when you sample
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5628539&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#48302402) |
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Date: November 6th, 2024 4:58 PM Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
"putting their money where their mouth is and making their own predictions"
What in the fuck are you talking about? Every goddamn poaster here made a strong prediction about the race? Do you mean make your own model? And if so, you realize it's perfect legitimate to criticize a product/service that you don't or even can't provide yourself, right? Especially if part of your criticism is that the whole class of products is stupid and shouldn't exist?
"it's as if i said "if you flip a coin twice there's a 75% chance it won't land on heads twice", and then when it does, you rage about how stupid my prediction was."
No, it's more like if I read your palm and told you that a very big opportunity would be coming your way in a very short period of time, and then your wife and kids died in a car crash and I was like "see, this creates an opportunity in its own way for you to start anew with a new wife and new kids," and you were like "no my face and balls were destroyed in the accident," and I was like "oh, well, I said 'short period of time' so it probably hasn't happened yet."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5628539&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#48302133) |
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Date: November 6th, 2024 3:04 PM Author: 38 BMI and Age Cat Mom Sobbing on TikTok (gunneratttt)
"all the "no toss up" map does is average out the polls and assign a win based on polling average. it's a model just like any other, except that it just weighs every poll equally and spits out only the most likely result. other models are more advanced because they weigh polls differently and give you the probability of each result."
you're retarded. that's exactly what i said. what do you think is the difference between a "aggregator" and a "model" aside from the more advanced analysis of the data? yes, it does other things beyond weighing polls, but you didn't seem to even understand that much.
state your most advanced statistics course before i engage you further.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5628539&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#48301293) |
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Date: November 6th, 2024 3:34 PM Author: 38 BMI and Age Cat Mom Sobbing on TikTok (gunneratttt)
you're the one that brought up aggregator versus model.
it does produce results when the models are used with things that can be repeated. the issue is that an election cannot be repeated and tested against the model. you have no idea whether if you ran the election 100 times how the distribution would work out. but there will always be outliers.
in events that can be repeated these models prove how predicative they are. as well as when you consider individual events over a long period of time.
people that just say "wow, an outlier happened, therefore this is crap" don't understand what a stupid statement that is. outliers are *guaranteed* to happen. and in this case, the results were well within silver's most probable results. if you think you can do better, do it, because then you'd be making millions instead of passionately arguing about shit you don't even know the fundamentals of.
hth.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5628539&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481",#48301543) |
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