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9th circuit rules that nude all-womens korean spa must allow flopping penises

facts: conservative religious korean community has a female-...
Bat shit crazy dilemma
  03/14/26
denies rehearing en banc https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datast...
Bat shit crazy dilemma
  03/14/26
van DYKE doesnt like swinging dicks
wonderful temple
  03/14/26
Wow, not flame
Frozen supple hissy fit property
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flame. evan39 wrote that.
Onyx stead
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original 3 judge panel opinion from earlier. circuit judge ...
Bat shit crazy dilemma
  03/14/26
McKeown, majority. Olympus Spa, et al. v. Armstrong, et...
Bat shit crazy dilemma
  03/14/26
> That language makes us sound like juveniles, not judges...
Violent senate incel
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the majesty of the law! get out of here if you are lacking i...
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Mint azn
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Lol at libs who want girls to be forced to see penises bleat...
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dont all girls want to see penis tho?
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HALFORD, J., concurring, in favor of GIANT FUCKSTICKS
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beady-eyed queen of the night turdskin
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my penis won't be flopping, i assure you
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Libs?
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"You may think that swinging dicks shouldn’t appe...
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Okay, I lol'd
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(Thomas, J. dissenting to the dissent)
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180
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they totally did! but you can't violate the constitutional r...
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OWENS, Circuit Judge, joined by FORREST, Circuit Judge, resp...
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that's the full concurrence tp
Mint azn
  03/14/26
Is this real? I have no idea what's real any longer.
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Was sure it was you at first, but appears to be real.
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"The modern world is madder than any satires on it.&quo...
Mint azn
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and fabulous
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181 dissent. lol at the shitlib judges maf that someone dare...
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appellate law is a bucket of whitewash paint. the dissenting...
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*EPAH pops open champagne*
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no, I never heard of him until this opinion. but i'm intrig...
Bat shit crazy dilemma
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he made the gun video dissent
Swashbuckling station
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ty! had never seen this. 18 min video explaining how guns w...
Bat shit crazy dilemma
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I believe he went to some random bible college in oklahoma, ...
Blue menage faggot firefighter
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you are right - i stand corrected. a unique background amon...
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VanDyke p. 4: Full nudity is central to the tradition,
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Haven Wilvich is a man who identifies as female, has twice ...
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US Supreme Court might take this, right? You know Kavanaugh...
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Relax, it's just an incidental restriction bro: "We con...
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bro i'm sorry but it just doesn't seem right to refer to a p...
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Finally, I’ll respond briefly to my colleagues’ ...
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Yes, the introduction to this dissent intentionally uses ind...
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Ur half-korean dotter eye-level with zher dick
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Kenneth Lee dissent Korean spas provide services incorpor...
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didn't read any of the actual case shit. no way to block ...
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majority said no, dissents said yes
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to me that proves that they aren't anti-trans, given that tr...
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i would bet anything this judge has a moniker
curious cobalt set
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No question. Check out his HLS dates https://en.wikipedia.o...
Greedy boiling water abode
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I dunno. He graduated in '05 and was born in 1972. His class...
cerise step-uncle's house
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This guy fucks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_VanD...
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"No Dick Allow"
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Date: March 14th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma

facts: conservative religious korean community has a female-only spa, where women as young as 13 are nude together while bathing communally. their policy is they will let in trans women who've had surgery, but no visible swinging penises (so if you haven't had the surgery, you can't enter).

original 3 judge panel rules for plaintiff. court denies rehearing en banc yesterday.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49743249)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 3:55 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma

denies rehearing en banc https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2026/03/12/23-4031.pdf

trump appointee vandyke (oklahoma state --> harvard law)

starts his dissent as follows, talking about swinging dicks, "woke" regulators, and complicit judges:

1

Olympus Spa, et al. v. Armstrong, et al., No. 23-4031

VANDYKE, Circuit Judge, dissenting from the denial of rehearing en banc:

This is a case about swinging dicks. The Christian owners of Olympus Spa—a traditional Korean, women-only, nude spa—understandably don’t want them in their spa. Their female employees and female clients don’t want them in their spa either. But Washington State insists on them. And now so does the Ninth Circuit.

You may think that swinging dicks shouldn’t appear in a judicial opinion. You’re not wrong. But as much as you might understandably be shocked and displeased to merely encounter that phrase in this opinion, I hope we all can agree that it is far more jarring for the unsuspecting and exposed women at Olympus Spa—some as young as thirteen—to be visually assaulted by the real thing.

Sometimes, it feels like the supposed adults in the room have collectively lost their minds. Woke regulators and complicit judges seem entirely willing, even eager, to ignore the consequences that their Frankenstein social experiments impose on real women and young girls. Yet if harmful and unfortunate consequences were all this case was about, we’d have to shrug and say: “That’s what comes with living in a democracy.” Unless the Constitution is implicated, we get what we voted for “good and hard.”1

1 H.L. MENCKEN, A LITTLE BOOK IN C MAJOR 19 (John Lane Co., 1916)

(“Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and

deserve to get it good and hard.”).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49743258)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 4:22 PM
Author: wonderful temple

van DYKE doesnt like swinging dicks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49743349)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 7:56 PM
Author: Frozen supple hissy fit property

Wow, not flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49744107)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 10:01 PM
Author: Onyx stead

flame. evan39 wrote that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49744424)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 3:56 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma

original 3 judge panel opinion from earlier. circuit judge kenneth lee wrote a fine, quieter dissent

https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2025/05/29/23-4031.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49743259)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 4:06 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma

McKeown, majority.

Olympus Spa, et al. v. Armstrong, et al., No. 23-4031

McKEOWN, Senior Circuit Judge, joined by MURGUIA, Chief Judge,

HAWKINS, S.R. THOMAS, GRABER, FLETCHER, PAEZ, BERZON,

CLIFTON, BYBEE, and HURWITZ, Senior Circuit Judges, WARDLAW,

GOULD, RAWLINSON, M. SMITH, CHRISTEN, NGUYEN, FRIEDLAND,

MILLER, KOH, SUNG, SANCHEZ, H.A. THOMAS, MENDOZA, DESAI,

JOHNSTONE, and DE ALBA, Circuit Judges, respecting the denial of rehearing

en banc:

The American legal system has long been regarded as a place to resolve disputes in a dignified and civil manner or, as Justice O’Connor put it, to “disagree without being disagreeable.”1 It is not a place for vulgar barroom talk. Nor is it a place to suggest that fellow judges have “collectively lost their minds,” or that they are “woke judges[]” “complicit” in a scheme to harm ordinary Americans. That language makes us sound like juveniles, not judges, and it undermines public trust in the courts. The lead dissent’s use of such coarse language and invective may make for publicity or entertainment value, but it has no place in a judicial opinion. The lead dissent ignores ordinary principles of dignity and civility and demeans this court. Neither the parties nor the panel dissent found it necessary to invoke such crude and vitriolic language. Decorum and collegiality demand more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49743299)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 4:30 PM
Author: Violent senate incel

> That language makes us sound like juveniles, not judges, and it undermines public trust in the courts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49743397)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 5:20 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma

the majesty of the law! get out of here if you are lacking in decorum

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49743634)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 5:20 PM
Author: Mint azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49743638)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 6:12 PM
Author: wonderful temple

Lol at libs who want girls to be forced to see penises bleating about obscenity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49743759)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 6:20 PM
Author: Mint azn



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Date: March 14th, 2026 10:57 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma

!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49744528)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 10:59 PM
Author: glittery abnormal space electric furnace

dont all girls want to see penis tho?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49744540)



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Date: March 15th, 2026 3:06 AM
Author: curious cobalt set



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Date: March 15th, 2026 1:44 PM
Author: Lilac marvelous trailer park



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Date: March 14th, 2026 4:28 PM
Author: wonderful temple

HALFORD, J., concurring, in favor of GIANT FUCKSTICKS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49743387)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 4:59 PM
Author: Arrogant garrison striped hyena



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Date: March 14th, 2026 5:18 PM
Author: Mint azn



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Date: March 14th, 2026 5:20 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma



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Date: March 14th, 2026 5:20 PM
Author: Mint azn



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Date: March 14th, 2026 7:55 PM
Author: Frozen supple hissy fit property



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Date: March 14th, 2026 8:13 PM
Author: Mint azn



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Date: March 14th, 2026 8:28 PM
Author: Electric pearly school cafeteria



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Date: March 14th, 2026 8:30 PM
Author: Mint azn



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Date: March 15th, 2026 2:50 AM
Author: Greedy boiling water abode



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Date: March 15th, 2026 3:07 AM
Author: curious cobalt set



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Date: March 15th, 2026 9:44 AM
Author: beady-eyed queen of the night turdskin



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Date: March 14th, 2026 4:30 PM
Author: hairraiser ruby travel guidebook business firm

my penis won't be flopping, i assure you



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49743396)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 4:30 PM
Author: Mint azn



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Date: March 14th, 2026 4:34 PM
Author: well-lubricated cheese-eating crackhouse



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Date: March 14th, 2026 4:35 PM
Author: Mint azn



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Date: March 14th, 2026 5:17 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma



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Date: March 14th, 2026 5:17 PM
Author: Mint azn



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Date: March 14th, 2026 6:04 PM
Author: Iridescent Location



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Date: March 14th, 2026 6:20 PM
Author: Mint azn



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Date: March 15th, 2026 1:14 AM
Author: french rigpig ticket booth



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Date: March 14th, 2026 4:36 PM
Author: Sooty racy market volcanic crater

Libs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49743432)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 5:18 PM
Author: Mint azn



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Date: March 14th, 2026 5:21 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma

"You may think that swinging dicks shouldn’t appear in a judicial opinion."

I actually don't think this at all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49743641)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 5:21 PM
Author: Mint azn

Okay, I lol'd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49743643)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 5:30 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma



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Date: March 14th, 2026 5:31 PM
Author: Mint azn



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Date: March 14th, 2026 5:33 PM
Author: Spectacular effete office



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Date: March 14th, 2026 5:33 PM
Author: Mint azn



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Date: March 14th, 2026 6:06 PM
Author: twinkling nofapping whorehouse coffee pot



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Date: March 14th, 2026 6:21 PM
Author: Mint azn



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Date: March 14th, 2026 6:12 PM
Author: Out-of-control laughsome area deer antler

(Thomas, J. dissenting to the dissent)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49743761)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 6:21 PM
Author: Mint azn

180

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Date: March 14th, 2026 6:32 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma



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Date: March 14th, 2026 6:33 PM
Author: Mint azn



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Date: March 15th, 2026 12:12 PM
Author: curious cobalt set



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Date: March 14th, 2026 9:47 PM
Author: hideous bearded range police squad



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Date: March 14th, 2026 9:49 PM
Author: Mint azn



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Date: March 15th, 2026 3:07 AM
Author: curious cobalt set



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Date: March 14th, 2026 5:24 PM
Author: sable love of her life



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Date: March 14th, 2026 5:26 PM
Author: Mint azn

tp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49743650)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 5:31 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma

they totally did! but you can't violate the constitutional rights of the spa

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49743666)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 5:32 PM
Author: Mint azn



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Date: March 14th, 2026 5:30 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma

OWENS, Circuit Judge, joined by FORREST, Circuit Judge, respecting the denial of rehearing en banc:

Regarding the dissenting opinion of Judge VanDyke: We are better than this. [that's the full concurrence]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49743661)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 5:31 PM
Author: Mint azn

that's the full concurrence tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49743665)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 6:13 PM
Author: unhinged candlestick maker sanctuary

Is this real? I have no idea what's real any longer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49743765)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 6:20 PM
Author: diverse bronze nibblets

Was sure it was you at first, but appears to be real.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49743779)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 6:20 PM
Author: Mint azn



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Date: March 14th, 2026 6:20 PM
Author: Mint azn



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Date: March 14th, 2026 6:33 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma



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Date: March 14th, 2026 6:33 PM
Author: Mint azn



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Date: March 14th, 2026 6:45 PM
Author: Out-of-control laughsome area deer antler

it's real, brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49743866)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 6:46 PM
Author: Mint azn

"The modern world is madder than any satires on it."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49743876)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: aromatic corn cake hall

and fabulous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49744011)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 8:13 PM
Author: Mint azn



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Date: March 14th, 2026 7:31 PM
Author: bull headed kitty cat regret

181 dissent. lol at the shitlib judges maf that someone dared to say in plain language what they were actually voting for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49744029)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 7:56 PM
Author: Frozen supple hissy fit property



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Date: March 14th, 2026 9:49 PM
Author: Mint azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49744415)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 8:13 PM
Author: Mint azn



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Date: March 14th, 2026 10:09 PM
Author: Chartreuse tank

appellate law is a bucket of whitewash paint. the dissenting judge showed the unvarnished truth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49744437)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 10:11 PM
Author: Mint azn



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Date: March 14th, 2026 10:48 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma

cr

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Date: March 15th, 2026 3:08 AM
Author: curious cobalt set



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Date: March 15th, 2026 1:45 PM
Author: Lilac marvelous trailer park



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Date: March 14th, 2026 10:02 PM
Author: Onyx stead

*EPAH pops open champagne*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49744425)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 10:29 PM
Author: Blue menage faggot firefighter

Van Dyke has been winning the SCOTUS sweepstakes in my mind for awhile now. I'm far more impressed with a dude doing this stuff from the Ninth Circuit than from the safe majority rule of the Fifth.

Does anyone know if he's a GOPe cuck on consumer/4A-type issues? That's always been the problem with gop judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49744478)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 10:52 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma

no, I never heard of him until this opinion. but i'm intrigued by his background - there aren't a lot of oklahoma state --> harvard law guys. DC Circuit Clark too, Janice Rodgers Brown

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49744507)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 10:59 PM
Author: Swashbuckling station

he made the gun video dissent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49744538)



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Date: March 15th, 2026 10:42 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma

ty! had never seen this. 18 min video explaining how guns work, related to a case determining whether a magazine was an accessory (and not an arm, and thus outside the protections of the 2nd amendment) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMC7Ntd4d4c

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49745093)



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Date: March 15th, 2026 10:42 AM
Author: Blue menage faggot firefighter

I believe he went to some random bible college in oklahoma, not osu.

He did the video dissent on one 2A case, and then on another, wrote the majority panel opinion striking down the law and then concurred with himself writing a paint-by-numbers en banc opinion overruling himself -- to "save the en banc court some time" -- and pointed out in FNs how weak and motivated and stupid the logic was.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49745088)



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Date: March 15th, 2026 10:44 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma

you are right - i stand corrected. a unique background among DC circuit clerks, and COA judges, certainly. and ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49745101)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 10:45 PM
Author: Swashbuckling station

VanDyke p. 4: Full nudity is central to the tradition,

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49744496)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 10:49 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma



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Date: March 14th, 2026 10:50 PM
Author: Swashbuckling station

Haven

Wilvich is a man who identifies as female, has twice been married to women, and

remains sexually attracted to women.

4

4 By his own account, Wilvich is sexually attracted to women. “I enjoy dating

women and enbies in a way that I just don’t get the same fulfillment with men.” Sex

and Dating Updates, Finding Haven (Feb. 20, 2022),

https://findinghaven.blog/2022/02/20/sex-and-dating-updates/

[https://perma.cc/5JSQ-R8CP].

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49744502)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 10:55 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma

US Supreme Court might take this, right? You know Kavanaugh, Thomas and Alito are there. I think Gorsuch is. I think you get 1 or 2 of Roberts/ACB. Not sure if you get Kagan, Sotomayor, or KBJ, but maybe.

I genuinely don't understand the majority position in this case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49744522)



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Date: March 15th, 2026 12:20 AM
Author: cerise step-uncle's house

Relax, it's just an incidental restriction bro: "We conclude that WLAD imposes an “incidental restriction . . . no greater than is essential” to eliminate discriminatory conduct."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49744668)



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Date: March 15th, 2026 1:11 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma



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Date: March 15th, 2026 10:43 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma

bro i'm sorry but it just doesn't seem right to refer to a penis as "incidental"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49745097)



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Date: March 14th, 2026 10:58 PM
Author: Swashbuckling station

Finally, I’ll respond briefly to my colleagues’ discomfort with how I’ve

written this dissent. My distressed colleagues appear to have the fastidious

sensibilities of a Victorian nun when it comes to mere unpleasant words in my

opinion, yet exhibit the scruples of our dearly departed colleague Judge Reinhardt

when it comes to the government trampling on religious liberties8 and exposing

women and girls to male genitalia.

9 That kind of selective outrage speaks for itself.

The public deserves a court that is actually trustworthy. We should be earning that

trust, not demanding it like petty tyrants.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49744533)



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Date: March 15th, 2026 12:01 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma

Yes, the introduction to this dissent intentionally uses indecorous language. But that is quite literally what this case is about. Male genitalia is precisely (and only) what the Spa, for religious reasons, objects to admitting into its female-only space. The fact that so many on our court want to pretend that this case is about anything other than swinging dicks is the very reason the shocking language is necessary. The panel majority uses slick legal arguments and deflection to studiously avoid eye contact with the actual and horrific consequences of its erroneous opinion. The “ordinary Americans” affected by the majority’s opinion don’t have that luxury. Squirm as we might, I think it’s only fair for our court to have a small taste of its own medicine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49744649)



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Date: March 15th, 2026 12:05 AM
Author: Mint azn



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Date: March 15th, 2026 2:12 AM
Author: Greedy boiling water abode



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Date: March 15th, 2026 3:11 AM
Author: curious cobalt set



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Date: March 15th, 2026 8:03 AM
Author: slippery bonkers gas station



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Date: March 15th, 2026 9:39 AM
Author: Chartreuse tank



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Date: March 15th, 2026 10:35 AM
Author: french rigpig ticket booth



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Date: March 15th, 2026 11:02 AM
Author: Frozen supple hissy fit property

Ur half-korean dotter eye-level with zher dick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49745142)



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Date: March 15th, 2026 12:21 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy dilemma

Kenneth Lee dissent

Korean spas provide services incorporating hundreds of years of Korean cultural tradition going back to the Choson dynasty (1392–1910). Traditional Korean spa therapy focuses on rejuvenating the body and mind through treatments, massages, and full-body scrubs in communal bathhouses and steam rooms called jjimjilbang.

Korean spas are uniquely intimate environments: Patrons must be nude in the communal bathhouse and sauna areas, and unlike other spas, patrons are not given robes or towels for covering up. Patrons must also remain fully nude to receive traditional Korean spa services like seshin, a traditional Korean body scrub of the entire body. After soaking in a warm pool, customers are scrubbed head-to-toe to promote holistic health and to exfoliate the skin. Seshin is performed by ddemiri, individuals who are trained in the Korean art of body scrub using traditional techniques. Ddemiri intimately touch patrons for prolonged periods as they scrub them all over their bodies. And all of this occurs in a large communal area, where all the patrons must be naked. Given the intimate nature, Korean spas not surprisingly separate male and female customers.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49744671)



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Date: March 15th, 2026 12:55 AM
Author: aromatic corn cake hall

didn't read any of the actual case shit.

no way to block the floppy cocks by using a private club model?

did they fuck up at all by allowing post-op trannies rather than barring all penis-havers-at-birth?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49744703)



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Date: March 15th, 2026 2:52 AM
Author: Greedy boiling water abode

majority said no, dissents said yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49744749)



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Date: March 15th, 2026 12:28 PM
Author: Chartreuse tank

to me that proves that they aren't anti-trans, given that trans come in at least two varieties and they have no problem with the penis-non-havers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49745287)



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Date: March 15th, 2026 3:13 AM
Author: curious cobalt set

i would bet anything this judge has a moniker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49744762)



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Date: March 15th, 2026 3:20 AM
Author: Greedy boiling water abode

No question. Check out his HLS dates

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_VanDyke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845571&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49744768)



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Date: March 15th, 2026 12:36 PM
Author: cerise step-uncle's house

I dunno. He graduated in '05 and was born in 1972. His classmaters were posting, of course. It would have been less of a thing for people his age. Maybe he did.

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Date: March 15th, 2026 3:19 AM
Author: Greedy boiling water abode

This guy fucks:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_VanDyke

VanDyke was born in 1972 in Midland, Texas, and grew up in Bozeman, Montana.[2] After attending Oklahoma Christian University from 1992 to 1995, VanDyke studied civil engineering at Montana State University, graduating in 1997 with a Bachelor of Science with highest honors. He worked for his family's construction company and did graduate study at Montana State for the next three years, receiving a Master of Construction Engineering Management degree in 2000.[3]

VanDyke graduated from Bear Valley Bible Institute, a Bible college in Denver, Colorado, in 2002 with a Bachelor of Theology degree, summa cum laude. He then attended Harvard Law School, where he was an editor of the Harvard Law Review and the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy. He graduated in 2005 with a Juris Doctor, magna cum laude.[4]

Legal career

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VanDyke was in private practice at the law firm Gibson Dunn from 2005 to 2006, then served as a law clerk to judge Janice Rogers Brown of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit from 2006 to 2007. He returned to Gibson Dunn from 2007 to 2012. While in private practice, VanDyke performed pro bono legal work for groups including the American Civil Liberties Union, the Free Market Foundation, and the Alliance Defending Freedom.[5][6] In 2010, VanDyke filed an amicus brief in Christian Legal Society v. Martinez on behalf of Gays and Lesbians for Individual Liberty, in which he argued that a college student group had a First Amendment right to exclude from membership students whose sexual conduct violated the group's stated beliefs.[7]

From 2012 to 2013, VanDyke was an assistant to the Solicitor General of Texas. He was then appointed the Solicitor General of Montana but resigned in 2014, citing strain in the workplace.[8][9] As Solicitor General of Montana, he submitted numerous amicus curiae briefs filed in other states. He recommended signing on to other states' challenges to state and federal gun laws, co-wrote a brief supporting an Arizona law prohibiting abortions after 20 weeks, and recommended that Montana file a brief in a New Mexico case involving a photographer who refused to photograph a lesbian commitment ceremony.[10]

VanDyke unsuccessfully ran for a seat on the Montana Supreme Court in 2014, losing to incumbent Justice Mike Wheat.[11] He became Solicitor General of Nevada under Attorney General Adam Laxalt in 2015, where he served until 2019 when he became a deputy Assistant Attorney General for the United States Department of Justice Environment and Natural Resources Division.[12]

Since graduating law school, VanDyke has been a member of the Federalist Society.[3]



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Date: March 15th, 2026 12:59 PM
Author: arousing hyperactive rehab

"No Dick Allow"



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Date: March 15th, 2026 2:03 PM
Author: Frozen supple hissy fit property



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