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Is $250k a “good salary”?
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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:42 PM Author: vermilion cowardly sandwich Assuming you don’t pay for health insurance and can retire at 50 with full pension? My buddy does this and I’m trying to figure out if he has it made. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631100) |
Date: January 29th, 2026 3:45 PM Author: boyish clear tattoo It’s good enough to live a fairly comfortable life. Can afford to be in a decent area, take trips w family, save a good chunk of your salary.
If you add in a pension this is a great spot to be in |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:47 PM Author: vermilion cowardly sandwich My buddy is a firefighter and does this. Has a hot wife and a nice house. I’m confused how the fuck we got pushed into law. And only reason he retires at 50 and not like 40 is because he was an accountant and quit lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631116) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:49 PM Author: cruel-hearted whorehouse rigpig yeah hes made it for sure. firefighter is one of the easiest/best jobs left in the us. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631123) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:50 PM Author: Hairraiser stead deer antler cr. 2 days per week you hang around a club house and shoot pool with your friends and everyone treats you like a hero. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631127) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:53 PM Author: cruel-hearted whorehouse rigpig they literally let overweight millennial women drive the firetruck by me its a joke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631139) |
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Date: January 30th, 2026 1:34 PM Author: ocher site alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49633250) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:49 PM Author: Hairraiser stead deer antler yes if your wife makes the same amount and you only have 1 kid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631122) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:50 PM Author: Comical goal in life hall and you live in flyover, not coastal states (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631125) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:51 PM Author: House-broken Den there is more coast than california and acela believe it or not, some might even say the better part of the coast (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631132) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:51 PM Author: vermilion cowardly sandwich His wife is SAHM and it’s an expensive area. They have 4 kids. How the fuck is this possible? Maybe the “1 kid” limit thing is Internet incel talk? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631130) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:52 PM Author: House-broken Den Should've done 250k firefighter bro. Maybe in the next life since we're half dead and the good half at that lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631133) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 4:07 PM Author: Sable Crusty Sweet Tailpipe 4 kids x $2200 tax credit = $8800 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631185) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:52 PM Author: racy pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631136) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 8:02 PM Author: high-end juggernaut orchestra pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631690) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:54 PM Author: racy pisswyrm That's basically me. We're broke as fuck. I had more money when I was a poor college kid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631146) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:55 PM Author: Hairraiser stead deer antler i never felt wealthier than when i was a pizza delivery driver in college. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631149) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 4:26 PM Author: spruce new version in ug i did the phones at a small pizza place, sometimes (like 1 time every 4 months) id get a horny af older sounding woman begging me to deliver the pizza, id sadly have to explain that im just the phone guy
not even sure how they decided i was good enough to fuck just based on my voice, because they werent interested in most of the delivery guys (one delivery guy was a chad who drove a motorcycle) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 7:56 PM Author: amethyst thriller cruise ship faggot firefighter you must have Barry White voice. Well done. Stay on that phone gig. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631678) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 4:16 PM Author: Cerise Toaster what are you spending it on other than chasing your kids around sportsball games (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631211) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 4:20 PM Author: racy pisswyrm That's basically it. Totally self inflicted. It's embarrassing how much we spend. I hide it from coworkers and family. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631230) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 4:21 PM Author: Cerise Toaster to what end? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631236) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 4:27 PM Author: racy pisswyrm It's a structure for parents that are too lazy to impose discipline through traditional routes on crap like screen time (which is cheap and plentiful).
Contrast with...My grandfather wasn't allowed to play football because it interfered with his chores on the farm. My great grandfather found out he was playing and drug him off the field to go milk cows. |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 7:28 PM Author: Hairraiser stead deer antler This has been my question recently. I’m really taking my foot off the gas with emphasizing sports for my kids. It really ruins a lot of weekends. Family splits up, you drive over an hour each way for your kid to play 40 min of a team sport. It’s expensive, time consuming and you hit diminishing returns very early.
I think it’s just an easy mold for parents to adopt. The sports family. You have a built in social circle and the commitments create a structure for your life. You don’t have to connect with your kids or actually participate in their enrichments but you’re still a “good parent” because all of your time is devoted to “their” pursuits. |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 7:49 PM Author: Cerise Toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631659) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 8:33 PM Author: House-broken Den This is pretty crazy. Do parents not help each other out as much these days or is it people just keeping up with the modern expectation that you MUST attend everything or what's going on here? We used to always have one parent cram a bunch of kids into their car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631762) |
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Date: January 30th, 2026 1:26 PM Author: Hairraiser stead deer antler My example is soccer because that's what my kids play, but i think generally it's the same for most sports because they've just about all been privatized.
The sports are no longer town based so my kids' soccer teams are based in a town 20 min away and pulls from all the surrounding towns, so there's no carpooling for us.
unless you are playing pretty low level "town travel" you are going to be in a a more competitive league (for soccer it's EDP and at older ages ECNL, GA or MLSNext) with about 8 other teams that aren't necessarily going to be geographically close to you. So a random weekend league game with your child playing 40 min on a field with 1 ball and 17 other kids ends up being a 4-6 hour commitment taking up most of the day.
Then there are tournaments which, again are not local and often require overnight lodging.
It's all completely ridiculous. |
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Date: January 30th, 2026 1:45 PM Author: titillating ape factory reset button It’s bc people want everything to be based on Clique and living in a Community of any kind is for Losers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49633276) |
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Date: January 30th, 2026 1:46 PM Author: racy pisswyrm Same deal here. Our best memories last summer were made on a camping trip to Crater Lake. We cut it short because some 22 year old dance instructor said we had to otherwise my daughter's routine wouldn't be ready by comp time OMG! I don't think I ever even saw the routine. Last week I cut a $2400 check for one single competition. That's just for the event, not studio time, hotel/food, travel costs etc. For what?
The privatized aspect really sucks. It's killed school sports. The highschool has a dance team but it's universally terrible. Even traditional sports like school baseball suck ass now. It's almost all poor kids. We put my son in a rec basketball league that just plays locally. I think it was $200, the competition mostly is subpar...but my kid fucking loved it. Don't even get me started on what select baseball has done to little league.
You have 4 kids? I can't compete with these 1-2 kid families. They really push it beyond what's normal then expectations get stuck there. All kids need $100 bat warming bags for their $500 bats??? I complained and a dad said what's another $100 in the grand scheme of what we're paying for. |
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Date: January 30th, 2026 1:59 PM Author: Hairraiser stead deer antler Goddamn. Yeah at the highest levels dance, gymnastics, cheer, baseball and hockey are in their own tier of insanity. The cost of soccer actually isn't bad in comparison ($3,500 for the year including tournament fees plus every other year another $500 for a new set of uniforms).
The baseball framework seems the dumbest to me. Out of town entire weekend tournaments every week and multiple cross-country trips for tournaments starting at like 10U. Wouldn't they get more out of training sessions where they are getting tons of reps rather than more games where they spend the majority of time standing around or sitting on the bench?
You are 100% right about the parents with only 1 or 2 kids. I can't pay for additional $100/hour personal training 3X/week for my 9 year old when i have 3 other kids. But i also think you hit the nail on the head that creating your own experiences for your kids like vacations or even just quality unstructured time at home letting your kid steer the ship on what you do creates more memories than carting them around to practice. |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 4:03 PM Author: yellow pistol median salary is probably 30k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631171) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 4:05 PM Author: Cerise Toaster Yes outside of coastal urban areas, where it couldn’t afford a shitbox. But it’s subject to severe lifestyle erosion as real inflation is like 15-20%
The middle class is dead |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 4:22 PM Author: spruce new version its okay for LMC
so i guess public schools for ur kids in a school system listed as "A" but the A is buffed by being "diverse" and a 2000sqft house where ur neighbors are either newly LMC like you or have been in the neighborhood for years and paid 1/10th of what you paid and are proles or dangerous, etc etc |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 4:35 PM Author: vermilion cowardly sandwich Most non Asians care about “public schools” and most kids in suburbs go to public school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631271) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 4:42 PM Author: spruce new version yeah, agreed
public schools are the didndu thunderdome for the LMC kids to enjoy |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 7:40 PM Author: Cobalt hilarious resort In 1982 in flyover? Yeah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631643) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 7:51 PM Author: coiffed talented background story cuckoldry its just okay in a HCOL place but balling in flyover.
250k in cleveland and you have a mansion and are swimming in young boy ass |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 7:55 PM Author: spruce new version this is the best u could do in cleveland on 250k
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1455-E-Superior-Ave-22-Cleveland-OH-44114/445722580_zpid/ |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 7:57 PM Author: amethyst thriller cruise ship faggot firefighter $250 + wife $250 = DINK and you will be fine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631681) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 8:00 PM Author: beady-eyed chapel So are you basically just fucked for life if you’re not a senior in IB, biglaw, PE/PC by the time you’re 40? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631688) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 8:05 PM Author: Free-loading confused parlour Is 250k a lot of money to you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631697) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 8:12 PM Author: high-end juggernaut orchestra pit The problem with making this little is that you get to 40, 45 maybe and you're making like 3x that number per year in the market and at that point it's over.
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Date: January 29th, 2026 8:18 PM Author: vermilion cowardly sandwich Huh? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631726) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 9:10 PM Author: high-end juggernaut orchestra pit You start to lose focus when your paid job drops to 25% or less of your annual gains. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631889) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 9:22 PM Author: Free-loading confused parlour i quiet quit as soon as my paid job was less than annual gains. i'd have fully retired long before it dropped to 25% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631913) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 9:25 PM Author: hot multi-colored brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631925) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 8:18 PM Author: violent locus no, not for what's coming. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631728) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 8:25 PM Author: Yapping stage mad-dog skullcap $250k isn't amazing, but retiring at 50 with a full pension absolutely is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49631746) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 8:43 PM Author: vermilion cowardly sandwich Another crazy thing is he was talking to me about 401k. I was like explaining things to him assuming his pension was his 401k and he didn’t save for retirement. Then he tells me yeah I know what a 401k is. He has a 457 plan which is the same as a 401k (no match from the gov obviously) then when he maxes that out he contributes to a 401k. He can do both. He shows me his and he had $600k in it lmao. That plus pension plus retire at 50. And there are people who get to retire at 41 or 42. He became a firefighter later in life after quitting accounting.
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