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Terminator 2 Plot Hole: they literally had no fucking plan to kill the T1000

they just shot at it with guns they knew would do nothing th...
Saffron Dashing Psychic Locale
  06/18/24
The plan was to gtfo and hide forever. Not a hole. Great mo...
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Razzmatazz Chestnut Indian Lodge Electric Furnace
  06/18/24
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nudist laughsome roommate
  06/18/24
its basically invincible to physical damage
Vigorous cordovan feces parlour
  06/18/24
It melts, so presumably they could have dropped some sort of...
dun immigrant
  06/18/24
he starts fucking up after taking damage, especially after g...
crusty center
  06/18/24
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Low-t Multi-colored Affirmative Action Friendly Grandma
  06/18/24
Arnold could have had an excel file labeled waystokillT1000u...
Saffron Dashing Psychic Locale
  06/19/24
Giant octopus would do it
comical puce location telephone
  06/19/24
or trick him to fall into a vat of molten metal
Saffron Dashing Psychic Locale
  06/19/24
Even if he reconstituted himself in that environment, there'...
comical puce location telephone
  06/19/24
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Exhilarant Parlor Azn
  06/19/24
That’s not a plot hole, it’s a plot device you i...
racy rose national pozpig
  06/18/24
save it for trivia, champ
orchid lodge
  06/18/24
the t1000 pretty much ruined the franchise. oh look, a ridic...
bistre well-lubricated kitchen
  06/18/24
Youre gay, we get it.
soul-stirring tantric community account mad cow disease
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Exhilarant Parlor Azn
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nudist laughsome roommate
  06/19/24
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Bearded Old Irish Cottage Institution
  06/19/24
lmao the entire premise is a bootstrap paradox; you can at l...
Indecent thriller stain
  06/18/24
that doesn't contradict what i said. making a villain some i...
bistre well-lubricated kitchen
  06/18/24
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fishy area macaca
  06/18/24
Wtf is a summer glau
insecure ultramarine international law enforcement agency
  06/19/24
(Not a Firefly, Arrow, *OR* Sarah Connor Chronicles masterma...
Costumed Nursing Home
  06/19/24
I really wished Sarah Connor Chronicles got a season 3 :(
Citrine Electric Space Internal Respiration
  06/20/24
Yeah, a solid 165 show and we were left hanging. Fox in tha...
Costumed Nursing Home
  06/20/24
I think Fox cancelled that apprentice knock-off show where t...
Citrine Electric Space Internal Respiration
  06/20/24
love plot hole / fatal flaw threads about movies but this...
Massive Boiling Water Rehab
  06/18/24
Honestly it's not that much more contrived than T1, where ev...
fishy area macaca
  06/18/24
yeah, no oh, a robot can put itself back together vs oh, a...
bistre well-lubricated kitchen
  06/18/24
My point is more that their plan in T1 ultimately relied on ...
fishy area macaca
  06/19/24
Didn't they know that whatever they did was destined to work...
Exciting hunting ground brunch
  06/18/24
Iirc there was a fading picture of fat Ed Furlong, indicatin...
Massive Boiling Water Rehab
  06/18/24
lmao just rip off back to the future?
Exciting hunting ground brunch
  06/18/24
*undercut haircut fades from picture as T-1000 closes the ga...
coiffed wonderful stage
  06/19/24
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bossy address
  06/19/24
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comical puce location telephone
  06/20/24
im not a phenotype expert like many on the board... but F...
Low-t Multi-colored Affirmative Action Friendly Grandma
  06/20/24
Eddie furlong's whiny bitch acting almost singlehandedly rui...
Bearded swollen garrison
  06/20/24
I’m gay
haunting jap
  06/18/24
The story is that they were so far behind in resources at th...
Curious Fluffy Cruise Ship National Security Agency
  06/18/24
Arnold had a ton of info about the T1000 downloaded into his...
Saffron Dashing Psychic Locale
  06/19/24
When the robots have mastered time travel, wtf does it matte...
Swashbuckling party of the first part keepsake machete
  06/19/24
another plot hole is that time travel makes no fucking sense
Saffron Dashing Psychic Locale
  06/19/24
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Athlete?s Foot
  12/24/25
In the first movie, the time travel grid was smashed so no o...
dun immigrant
  06/19/24
The second movie actually takes place before the first
comical puce location telephone
  06/20/24
movies that take place only slightly before/after the curren...
Saffron Dashing Psychic Locale
  06/20/24
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010:_The_Year_We_Make_Contact
comical puce location telephone
  06/20/24
nah that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking like Roa...
Saffron Dashing Psychic Locale
  06/21/24
They didn’t even have a moments peace until the freezi...
Clear Hissy Fit
  06/19/24
they had like an entire day at the beaner gun runner guy's m...
Saffron Dashing Psychic Locale
  06/20/24
the strategy was to run and hide. arnold says this over and ...
Low-t Multi-colored Affirmative Action Friendly Grandma
  06/20/24
Arnold and all the terminators are kind of stupid. the dood...
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Date: June 18th, 2024 3:29 PM
Author: Saffron Dashing Psychic Locale

they just shot at it with guns they knew would do nothing then randomly decided to raid the cyberdyne lab then happened to drive to a fortuitous steel mill. they were really dumb as shit and got lucky and even then john and sarah ended up as fugitives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47757584)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:15 PM
Author: soul-stirring tantric community account mad cow disease

The plan was to gtfo and hide forever. Not a hole. Great movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47757934)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:16 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Chestnut Indian Lodge Electric Furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47757940)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:16 PM
Author: nudist laughsome roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47757946)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:23 PM
Author: Vigorous cordovan feces parlour

its basically invincible to physical damage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47757973)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:46 PM
Author: dun immigrant

It melts, so presumably they could have dropped some sort of very high temperature explosive on it. It ultimately melts in the molten metal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47758301)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:34 PM
Author: crusty center

he starts fucking up after taking damage, especially after getting frozen and shattered

https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/terminator/images/c/c8/800px-T2T-1000glitch-1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090320213631

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/t1000_glitch.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47759018)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:47 PM
Author: Low-t Multi-colored Affirmative Action Friendly Grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47758073)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 8:17 AM
Author: Saffron Dashing Psychic Locale

Arnold could have had an excel file labeled waystokillT1000using20thcenturytech.xlsb loaded in his head. one of the rows would have been to break into a steel mill and dump him in a vat of molten metal. they probably could have just gone way out to sea and threw him in the ocean. he'd do something dumb like shapeshift into a shark but then he'd be stuck in the water.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47759947)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:10 AM
Author: comical puce location telephone

Giant octopus would do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47760201)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 2:39 PM
Author: Saffron Dashing Psychic Locale

or trick him to fall into a vat of molten metal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47760946)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:10 PM
Author: comical puce location telephone

Even if he reconstituted himself in that environment, there's no way he could avoid chemical impurities IMHO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47761930)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:05 AM
Author: Exhilarant Parlor Azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47760192)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:24 PM
Author: racy rose national pozpig

That’s not a plot hole, it’s a plot device you idiot. A very common one too - underdogs up against a seemingly unstoppable enemy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47757978)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:47 PM
Author: orchid lodge

save it for trivia, champ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47758072)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:46 PM
Author: bistre well-lubricated kitchen

the t1000 pretty much ruined the franchise. oh look, a ridiculous 5,000 year jump in technology to the point of imaginary.

summer glau helped revive it, but only because of her acting and looks

t2 is just a lame fantasy kids movie. t1 was great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47758068)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:39 PM
Author: soul-stirring tantric community account mad cow disease

Youre gay, we get it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47758269)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:36 PM
Author: Sienna yapping set knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47759203)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:06 AM
Author: Exhilarant Parlor Azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47760193)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 2:55 PM
Author: nudist laughsome roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47760988)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:11 PM
Author: Bearded Old Irish Cottage Institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47761935)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:53 PM
Author: Indecent thriller stain

lmao the entire premise is a bootstrap paradox; you can at least make the villain as cool as possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47758330)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:16 PM
Author: bistre well-lubricated kitchen

that doesn't contradict what i said. making a villain some imaginary freddy krueger robot is not 'cool', it's lame.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47758954)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:33 PM
Author: fishy area macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47759013)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:12 PM
Author: insecure ultramarine international law enforcement agency

Wtf is a summer glau

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47761039)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:53 PM
Author: Costumed Nursing Home

(Not a Firefly, Arrow, *OR* Sarah Connor Chronicles masterman*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47761132)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 2:06 PM
Author: Citrine Electric Space Internal Respiration

I really wished Sarah Connor Chronicles got a season 3 :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47763660)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:31 PM
Author: Costumed Nursing Home

Yeah, a solid 165 show and we were left hanging. Fox in that era sucked at this :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47764275)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:37 PM
Author: Citrine Electric Space Internal Respiration

I think Fox cancelled that apprentice knock-off show where the rich boss was a fake before they did the big reveal and for that show they paid for the episodes they just never aired them. Same era I think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47764303)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:23 PM
Author: Massive Boiling Water Rehab

love plot hole / fatal flaw threads about movies

but this one isnt that compelling

bit like the death star shot -- they needed every single circumstance to break their way to stand a chance against invincible villain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47758969)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:35 PM
Author: fishy area macaca

Honestly it's not that much more contrived than T1, where even after repeated obliteration from small arms and explosives the Terminator is still a threat until they find the fortuitous industrial press.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47759020)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:08 PM
Author: bistre well-lubricated kitchen

yeah, no

oh, a robot can put itself back together vs

oh, a liquid metal imaginary shapeshifter can see, can fix itself, can rejoin, can become anything can...etc

incredibly lame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47759158)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:26 AM
Author: fishy area macaca

My point is more that their plan in T1 ultimately relied on them getting lucky on being near an industrial factory or whatever

Anyway, when you remember that The Terminator was initially conceived of (and plays out as) a slasher movie, then just think of T-800 as Michael or Jason, and T-1000 as Freddy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47760088)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:36 PM
Author: Exciting hunting ground brunch

Didn't they know that whatever they did was destined to work anyway because the future they came from proved that they didn't die? idk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47759029)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:37 PM
Author: Massive Boiling Water Rehab

Iirc there was a fading picture of fat Ed Furlong, indicating a strong chance they failed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47759035)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:45 PM
Author: Exciting hunting ground brunch

lmao just rip off back to the future?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47759056)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:21 PM
Author: coiffed wonderful stage

*undercut haircut fades from picture as T-1000 closes the gap*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47761055)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:29 PM
Author: bossy address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47761078)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:33 AM
Author: comical puce location telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47763081)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:50 AM
Author: Low-t Multi-colored Affirmative Action Friendly Grandma

im not a phenotype expert like many on the board...

but Furlong, along with for example Wiley Wiggins from Dazed and Confused...

is an example of this weird type of guy who comes across as cool and charasmatic at about age 13 and then somehow devolves into a wretched loser by the time they are 18, never to return



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47763150)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 1:29 PM
Author: Bearded swollen garrison

Eddie furlong's whiny bitch acting almost singlehandedly ruined T2. The fact that it's still watchable is a testament to how freaking sweet the rest of the movie is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47763528)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:10 PM
Author: haunting jap

I’m gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47759164)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:30 PM
Author: Curious Fluffy Cruise Ship National Security Agency

The story is that they were so far behind in resources at that point in the future that recycling scraps like arnold was the best they could do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47759196)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 8:35 AM
Author: Saffron Dashing Psychic Locale

Arnold had a ton of info about the T1000 downloaded into his cyborg head already except for ways to kill it. more plausible would be that it showed up out of nowhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47759994)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:06 PM
Author: Swashbuckling party of the first part keepsake machete

When the robots have mastered time travel, wtf does it matter if you kill a T1000 or not? They'll just send another T1000 and then another until you die

As someone said, their only hope was go off the grid until judgement day



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47761031)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:22 PM
Author: Saffron Dashing Psychic Locale

another plot hole is that time travel makes no fucking sense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47761057)



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Date: December 24th, 2025 7:35 PM
Author: Athlete?s Foot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49538001)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 5:13 PM
Author: dun immigrant

In the first movie, the time travel grid was smashed so no one else could go through. That concept was abandoned by the second movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47761404)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:34 AM
Author: comical puce location telephone

The second movie actually takes place before the first

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47763086)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:35 AM
Author: Saffron Dashing Psychic Locale

movies that take place only slightly before/after the current year the movie was made are annoying. Road Trip is another example of that and it's confusing that it takes place in like 1996 instead of 1999.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47763094)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 2:40 PM
Author: comical puce location telephone

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010:_The_Year_We_Make_Contact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47763774)



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Date: June 21st, 2024 8:40 AM
Author: Saffron Dashing Psychic Locale

nah that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking like Road Trip where they're just a few years off so mailing VHS tapes even tho it was made in 2000.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47766102)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 5:11 PM
Author: Clear Hissy Fit

They didn’t even have a moments peace until the freezing episode though. And that was well into the movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47761396)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 1:43 PM
Author: Saffron Dashing Psychic Locale

they had like an entire day at the beaner gun runner guy's mexican ranch then instead of coming up with a strategy, Sarah runs off like an idiot to kill Dyson then they parlay that into blowing up Cyberdyne

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47763589)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:30 PM
Author: Low-t Multi-colored Affirmative Action Friendly Grandma

the strategy was to run and hide. arnold says this over and over. but then sarah tards out and john decides they're going to go back into danger to save her.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47764266)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:34 PM
Author: Saffron Dashing Psychic Locale

Arnold and all the terminators are kind of stupid. the dood in T1 says this out loud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47764288)



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Date: June 21st, 2024 8:48 AM
Author: fishy area macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#47766116)