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rating poasters as bizarre classical music from the 20th/21st centuries

mostly solo piano.
charismatic foreskin
  01/17/26
requesting Chopin pls
hyperventilating garrison
  01/17/26
Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to ...
charismatic foreskin
  01/17/26
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Sickened provocative menage indirect expression
  01/17/26
The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli --...
charismatic foreskin
  01/17/26
wild, ty!
Sickened provocative menage indirect expression
  01/17/26
There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: yo...
charismatic foreskin
  01/17/26
...
Abnormal Travel Guidebook Love Of Her Life
  01/17/26
that kind of music generally sucks, but content
exciting chapel gaming laptop
  01/17/26
Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical f...
charismatic foreskin
  01/17/26
180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the u...
exciting chapel gaming laptop
  01/17/26
The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style...
charismatic foreskin
  01/17/26
but content tp
Mentally impaired maize locus
  01/17/26
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curious milky azn
  01/17/26
Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering...
charismatic foreskin
  01/17/26
Jcm here
Ruby idiot
  01/17/26
Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtu...
charismatic foreskin
  01/17/26
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Abnormal Travel Guidebook Love Of Her Life
  01/17/26
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plum church queen of the night
  01/17/26
Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and o...
charismatic foreskin
  01/17/26
this is completely preposterous
Abnormal Travel Guidebook Love Of Her Life
  01/17/26
...
plum church queen of the night
  01/17/26
I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl
charismatic foreskin
  01/17/26
lmao
Abnormal Travel Guidebook Love Of Her Life
  01/17/26
And the composer too. Almost forgot.
charismatic foreskin
  01/17/26
...
Abnormal Travel Guidebook Love Of Her Life
  01/17/26
This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out ...
charismatic foreskin
  01/18/26
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harsh brunch
  01/17/26
Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: http...
charismatic foreskin
  01/17/26
Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant
harsh brunch
  01/17/26
Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit...
charismatic foreskin
  01/17/26
I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt p...
Abnormal Travel Guidebook Love Of Her Life
  01/17/26
I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's ...
charismatic foreskin
  01/17/26
180 thank you you used the phrase "obviously a cynical...
Abnormal Travel Guidebook Love Of Her Life
  01/17/26
No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some ...
charismatic foreskin
  01/17/26
can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano y...
Abnormal Travel Guidebook Love Of Her Life
  01/17/26
Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so ...
charismatic foreskin
  01/17/26
link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never...
Abnormal Travel Guidebook Love Of Her Life
  01/17/26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs
charismatic foreskin
  01/17/26
ty
Abnormal Travel Guidebook Love Of Her Life
  01/17/26
Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings o...
charismatic foreskin
  01/17/26
Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.
charismatic foreskin
  01/17/26
...
cerebral trailer park
  01/17/26
"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahash...
charismatic foreskin
  01/17/26
...
talented mad cow disease
  01/17/26
is this a compliment? are we friends?
cerebral trailer park
  01/17/26
This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.
charismatic foreskin
  01/17/26
I love you so much
cerebral trailer park
  01/17/26
...
talented mad cow disease
  01/17/26
Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beeth...
charismatic foreskin
  01/17/26
...
disturbing death wish degenerate
  01/17/26
I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think...
charismatic foreskin
  01/18/26
do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth interesting te...
Sickened provocative menage indirect expression
  01/17/26
I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this partic...
charismatic foreskin
  01/17/26
understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is fr...
Sickened provocative menage indirect expression
  01/17/26
Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one ...
charismatic foreskin
  01/18/26
...
Sickened provocative menage indirect expression
  01/18/26


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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:20 AM
Author: charismatic foreskin

mostly solo piano.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596192)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:23 AM
Author: hyperventilating garrison

requesting Chopin pls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596197)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:27 AM
Author: charismatic foreskin

Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to an early 20th-century reintepretation of Chopin's etudes by Godowsky. Not particularly bizarre, just difficult to perform. Apologies in advance for any disappointment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuEa1XLEVSw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596202)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:24 AM
Author: Sickened provocative menage indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596198)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:29 AM
Author: charismatic foreskin

The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli -- to be performed with rage per the composer's instructions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_dn3ORLq6s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596206)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: Sickened provocative menage indirect expression

wild, ty!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596339)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:37 PM
Author: charismatic foreskin

There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: you either love it or violently hate it and think it's just noise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596419)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: Abnormal Travel Guidebook Love Of Her Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596874)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: exciting chapel gaming laptop

that kind of music generally sucks, but content

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596394)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: charismatic foreskin

Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan, but that's true of most composers with a similar style. Personally I can't stand any of his music. Enjoy! Just look at how pretentious the piece's title is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYMXbM0RCeU



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596404)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:45 PM
Author: exciting chapel gaming laptop

180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the unreadble notation and beyond pretentious title push it over the top

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49597223)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: charismatic foreskin

The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style is taken to the point where I could create the same semi-random but pointlessly complex music despite me having no talent as a composer. That's why you can't take Ferneyhough or similar composers seriously. But they do want you to take them seriously. After all, Ferneyhough made it all the way to Stanford with this gibberish "music."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49597685)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: Mentally impaired maize locus

but content tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49597001)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:41 PM
Author: curious milky azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596425)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: charismatic foreskin

Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering Sorabji's typically serious style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFZYqLqBHOc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596437)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: Ruby idiot

Jcm here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596525)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:18 PM
Author: charismatic foreskin

Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aR0naIp9eM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596530)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: Abnormal Travel Guidebook Love Of Her Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596884)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:20 PM
Author: plum church queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596538)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:55 PM
Author: charismatic foreskin

Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and one foot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyy3CRuMQnc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596865)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: Abnormal Travel Guidebook Love Of Her Life

this is completely preposterous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596919)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:41 PM
Author: plum church queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596958)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:47 PM
Author: charismatic foreskin

I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596979)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: Abnormal Travel Guidebook Love Of Her Life

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596985)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: charismatic foreskin

And the composer too. Almost forgot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596999)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:48 PM
Author: Abnormal Travel Guidebook Love Of Her Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49597089)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 9:19 AM
Author: charismatic foreskin

This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out his "Innocent Prisoner" for piano and voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LIw8ykSmGU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49598324)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: harsh brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596869)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: charismatic foreskin

Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKfFaSWr4m0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596870)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: harsh brunch

Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596948)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: charismatic foreskin

Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit of dissonance and complexity without devolving into randomness. Actually it goes too far, but there's much worse out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596986)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:05 PM
Author: Abnormal Travel Guidebook Love Of Her Life

I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt performance of John Cage's As Slow As Possible. Rate me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_as_Possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596877)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: charismatic foreskin

I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's his "Phrygian Gates": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DixKnE9HqIU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596883)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: Abnormal Travel Guidebook Love Of Her Life

180 thank you

you used the phrase "obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan" above and that is how I view Cage but others may disagree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596891)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:16 PM
Author: charismatic foreskin

No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some of his music is actually enjoyable. For instance, his pieces for prepared piano.

Ferneyhough, the fraud and charlatan, is just SPS with no redeeming qualities. It's just unnecessary complexity and near-randomness that ordinary people laugh at (and should).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596904)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: Abnormal Travel Guidebook Love Of Her Life

can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano you enjoyed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596915)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:34 PM
Author: charismatic foreskin

Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so I don't remember specific pieces. The interesting ones had minimalist aspects IIRC. The problem with the recordings is the piano preparation and resultant sound varies wildly with each recording. So some recordings sound dull while others are more lively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596940)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:36 PM
Author: Abnormal Travel Guidebook Love Of Her Life

link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never been able to enjoy anything by Cage but I'm open to reassessing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596945)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:40 PM
Author: charismatic foreskin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596952)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: Abnormal Travel Guidebook Love Of Her Life

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596984)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:52 PM
Author: charismatic foreskin

Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings of Cage's works were my favorite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596991)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: charismatic foreskin

Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596993)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: cerebral trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596950)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:48 PM
Author: charismatic foreskin

"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahashi's recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbUgAXt75s8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49596980)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: talented mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49597105)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:25 PM
Author: cerebral trailer park

is this a compliment? are we friends?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49597348)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: charismatic foreskin

This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49597403)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: cerebral trailer park

I love you so much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49597475)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: talented mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49597104)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:02 PM
Author: charismatic foreskin

Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beethoven's last piano sonata, for mechanical piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gyJkYWdWWo (gets interesting after about 8-10 minutes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49597137)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:00 PM
Author: disturbing death wish degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49597425)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: charismatic foreskin

I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think of anything more appropriate than Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 6 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Y1bZYi60M

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49598298)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:10 PM
Author: Sickened provocative menage indirect expression

do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth

interesting technique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYtybgToH2Q&t=28s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49597568)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:43 PM
Author: charismatic foreskin

I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this particular piece. Classical music snobs would probably thumb their noses at this piece, but the snobs can be ignored. All that matters is whether you like it.

The technique of modifying the sound of the piano by interacting with the strings themselves is not new. Henry Cowell first explored this around 100 or so years ago. John Cage took the idea further in his pieces for prepared piano, which I mentioned earlier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49597648)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: Sickened provocative menage indirect expression

understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is from cage - i like this a lot more than him though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49597813)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:54 AM
Author: charismatic foreskin

Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one of Cage's teachers, if I remember correctly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49598296)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 10:26 AM
Author: Sickened provocative menage indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310481#49598425)