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SneakersSO
  12/11/25
why
cot on gin
  12/11/25
They’re Losing
SneakersSO
  12/11/25
does that mean I win then
cot on gin
  12/11/25
If Team Cherry loses, gamers win.
SneakersSO
  12/12/25
They make pretty good games tbh
cot on gin
  12/12/25
They won best Action/Adventure you idiot
OYT Magnus
  12/12/25
Oh wow what an “adventure” that everyone hates p...
SneakersSO
  12/12/25
Gatekeeping is not a good look champ. You’re crashing ...
OYT Magnus
  12/12/25
1. Do you own it? Yes 2. Have you played it? Not for more t...
SneakersSO
  12/12/25
Brutal
michael doodikoff
  12/12/25
Btw Death Stranding 2 should’ve won this category imo....
SneakersSO
  12/12/25
I think a nomination is good enough for a sequel to a game t...
OYT Magnus
  12/12/25
But if people loathe a Fear a game it shouldn’t win ju...
SneakersSO
  12/12/25
You’re so bitter about Silksong lol. People actually e...
OYT Magnus
  12/12/25
Hollow Knight 1: fine. Silksong? People loathe it YOU HAVEN...
SneakersSO
  12/12/25
cowgod has a queer anti-indie agenda and refuses to engage w...
cot on gin
  12/12/25
Are you saying that indie games have offered a reprieve from...
SneakersSO
  12/12/25
they've offered an alternative with different production met...
cot on gin
  12/12/25
Or people could just use the Fox Engine and have better Game...
SneakersSO
  12/12/25
Western tools are often really, really good. UE5 is fairly h...
cot on gin
  12/12/25
UE5 gave us MGS Delta which looks and performs worse than MG...
SneakersSO
  12/12/25
i haven't played it so i can't comment on it specifically. i...
cot on gin
  12/12/25
They remastered a 30fps ps2 game and it can only run in 60 g...
SneakersSO
  12/12/25
ue5 seems like an odd choice for that. you'd probably want t...
cot on gin
  12/12/25
even Kojima is using UE5 for OD Knock it's not the engine...
OYT Magnus
  12/12/25
Even konamis salarymen couldn’t make it work though. G...
SneakersSO
  12/12/25
generally agree although i'll admit that if i was a producti...
cot on gin
  12/12/25


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Date: December 11th, 2025 10:07 PM
Author: SneakersSO



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503485)



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Date: December 11th, 2025 10:08 PM
Author: cot on gin

why

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503492)



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Date: December 11th, 2025 10:12 PM
Author: SneakersSO

They’re Losing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503504)



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Date: December 11th, 2025 11:47 PM
Author: cot on gin

does that mean I win then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503682)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 7:21 AM
Author: SneakersSO

If Team Cherry loses, gamers win.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503916)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 7:46 AM
Author: cot on gin

They make pretty good games tbh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503937)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 7:29 AM
Author: OYT Magnus ( )

They won best Action/Adventure you idiot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503925)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 7:33 AM
Author: SneakersSO

Oh wow what an “adventure” that everyone hates playing or is afraid to play like you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503927)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 7:35 AM
Author: OYT Magnus ( )

Gatekeeping is not a good look champ. You’re crashing out all over the map.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503928)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 7:37 AM
Author: SneakersSO

1. Do you own it? Yes

2. Have you played it? Not for more than a minute. Probably not at all. Im not gatekeeping you. The Gane is giving you no reason to play it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503931)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 8:41 AM
Author: michael doodikoff

Brutal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503988)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 7:42 AM
Author: SneakersSO

Btw Death Stranding 2 should’ve won this category imo. It’s more of an actual Adventure. But bc of the zeitgeist and the obsession with western indies giving us a Reprieve from the state of AAA, this is where we are. A game people are afraid of or loathe playing beats a game people didn’t buy and/or get bored playing bc they’re anti-intellectual. That’s all well and good. But it’s not just that kojima lost. It’s that he was Forgotten. Because Geoff couldn’t have given him the award without causing an Uproar. Because come on. It was $20. Development Heaven. The panacea to fix the state of gaming!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503934)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 7:48 AM
Author: OYT Magnus ( )

I think a nomination is good enough for a sequel to a game that didn’t have a huge following in the first place. Kojima has committed to being a difficult Artiste and that’s fine, it just won’t win many populist awards because gamers are largely prole and retarded imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503939)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 7:54 AM
Author: SneakersSO

But if people loathe a Fear a game it shouldn’t win just bc it came at the right time and price to be seen as a Panacea

When gamers need something and it comes right when they need it they overrate the fuck out of it. Example: Metroid Prime 1 came when gamecube was seen as a kiddie joke. A western FPS. 9.7/10, champ. Everyone hated playing it. No one admits it. Because GameCube’s price was cut to$75 and they just needed a fuckin’ win. Same thing for Silksong: the ultimate Reprieve. “$80? Shove it up your ass, AAA Studios. 😏 “

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503943)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 7:55 AM
Author: OYT Magnus ( )

You’re so bitter about Silksong lol. People actually enjoy playing Hollow Knight. You need to Accept It.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503946)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 7:59 AM
Author: SneakersSO

Hollow Knight 1: fine.

Silksong? People loathe it YOU HAVENT PLAYED IT OUT OF FEAR.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503953)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 8:00 AM
Author: cot on gin

cowgod has a queer anti-indie agenda and refuses to engage with that part of the corpus despite it being where 75% of the gems in the field are these days, as this is just what the model has moved to and as a necessity for the health of these cultural outlets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503954)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 8:01 AM
Author: SneakersSO

Are you saying that indie games have offered a reprieve from the current state of AAA gaming?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503955)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: cot on gin

they've offered an alternative with different production methods

i'm not anti-AAA myself, per se. the arrangement as it is has always been complementary. the pool of investor money and engine/technological advancements that triple A gaming offers the field is also a necessity for the health of the market

there's a symbiosis there and a see-saw sort of effect that causes one to gain while the other wanes and vice versa. but ultimately both production styles cause the hobby to grow and advance as they develop things in the field

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503956)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 8:06 AM
Author: SneakersSO

Or people could just use the Fox Engine and have better Games but they want to use Western Tools

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503957)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 8:08 AM
Author: cot on gin

Western tools are often really, really good. UE5 is fairly high quality and increasingly modular. the unity engine and its *holds nose* asset market system caused an explosion of good ideas/amateur talent games to appear in the field, and that's generally how new ideas/genres/concepts come to market to begin with---triple A studios aren't developing new concepts these days. valve's source is still a venerable titan of the field and mapped down to its bones in such a way that even amateur devs can feel a good deal of mastery over it once they've started working with it. also afaik the fox engine is pretty expensive to license, more specialized/less freeform, and the japanese are much less giving with their tech base than many western companies are

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503959)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 8:11 AM
Author: SneakersSO

UE5 gave us MGS Delta which looks and performs worse than MGSV, which is open world ffs. UE5 needs cutting edge hardware as a crutch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503960)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 8:16 AM
Author: cot on gin

i haven't played it so i can't comment on it specifically. it probably isn't the best for every game type but as it gets more length in the field it's probably going to turn out to be as open ended and usable for a variety of things as 4 was. i think they're even adding nascent animation creation capacities for it which would finally break the field's sole reliance on blender, although it's nowhere near as far along as blender is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503964)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 8:26 AM
Author: SneakersSO

They remastered a 30fps ps2 game and it can only run in 60 gps with ridiculous ppp-on, otherwise it’s at 30….

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503972)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 8:29 AM
Author: cot on gin

ue5 seems like an odd choice for that. you'd probably want to look into how they made the decision

sometimes you have a glut of remakes pop up esp around big engine tech hitting the market so that studios can break ground on the engine with the production companies taking in the data to further familiarize other teams in the org chart with how it works

it's also why remakes of ancient games can be bizarrely shitty despite being mapped down to the character level in the codebase (the halo trilogy remake comes to mind)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503975)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 8:13 AM
Author: OYT Magnus ( )

even Kojima is using UE5 for OD Knock

it's not the engine that's the issue most of the time, it's the development process and how retarded the Boomers in publishing are and how many useless Women are asking the devs for "ETAs"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503961)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 8:15 AM
Author: SneakersSO

Even konamis salarymen couldn’t make it work though. Granted they don’t know how to make games anymore but still.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503963)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 8:19 AM
Author: cot on gin

generally agree although i'll admit that if i was a production head at these studios i probably wouldn't want to use a western engine product like UE5 right off the bat as they tend to take a few years until they really hit their stride (although that's most engine tech; afaik asian studios with proprietary engines for individual franchises don't have that issue quite as often but those engines are often for much more niche purposes and less licenseable for the same reasons)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809361&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49503967)