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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: shivering lime headpube Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49077411) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49117359) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49128622) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49141968) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49143857) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49156580) |
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49172980) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49421862) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49421881) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49424474) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49425035) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49425543) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49427654) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49436681) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49436785) |
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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49439167) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49441985) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49454945) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49455274) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49457596) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49458108) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49461550) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49463581) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49464738) |
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Date: November 27th, 2025 5:48 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49466319) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49467160) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49478445) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49484240) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49484832) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49492316) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49493000) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:23 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49495268) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 3:57 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49497250) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 9:55 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49500993) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:07 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49515504) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:04 AM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49518561) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 8:59 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49529071) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 8:47 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49532458) |
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Date: December 24th, 2025 12:00 AM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49536032) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 6:54 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49545634) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 7:05 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49545665) |
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Date: December 29th, 2025 9:19 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49548639) |
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Date: January 4th, 2026 8:56 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49562700) |
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Date: January 6th, 2026 7:39 PM Author: autistic balding gas station mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49567730) |
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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:44 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49584404) |
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Date: January 14th, 2026 6:47 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49589879) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: vibrant crimson keepsake machete Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: sable forum halford Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: vibrant crimson keepsake machete (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: sable forum halford They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: vibrant crimson keepsake machete read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy french boiling water mental disorder Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: Violent Mewling Hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49098592) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: Amethyst curious becky ceo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: Beady-eyed Church Building what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: low-t internal respiration cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: ungodly nowag I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: bat-shit-crazy french boiling water mental disorder teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49065206) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: Silver Property Roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: fragrant maroon meetinghouse fat ankles i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: Coiffed site dragon Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: comical aquamarine place of business office really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: maniacal galvanic hissy fit It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: glittery erotic temple it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: maniacal galvanic hissy fit Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486",#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: comical aquamarine place of business office actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |