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Why can't we just bomb Iran and call it a day, not go to "war?"

If there any reason we've have to have a real "war"...
Startled milk prole
  09/25/12
They live next to a lot of oil producers bro
snowy lascivious range gaping
  09/25/12
So they're going to attack some OTHER country in retaliation...
Startled milk prole
  09/25/12
Who knows, man. Cut off oil flowing out of the Gulf -> oi...
snowy lascivious range gaping
  09/25/12
they'll blockade the straits and try to shut off oil product...
Arousing nudist sandwich lettuce
  09/25/12
...
crusty dopamine partner
  09/25/12
And they should then be crippled.
Deranged business firm striped hyena
  09/25/12
which would require war
Dashing theater tattoo
  09/25/12
The entire Western world should just just annihilate their m...
territorial aquamarine alpha native
  09/25/12
*touch of a button*
offensive yellow rigor
  09/25/12
This sounds like an excellent idea
Maniacal Wild Stag Film
  09/25/12
ikr??? I can't imagine any complications that might arise...
...,....,,........
  06/20/25
I can't imagine which one they'd pick
adventurous depressive office
  09/25/12
just do pre-emptively bombing a country because it tries to ...
crusty dopamine partner
  09/25/12
Worked fine when we did it to Iraq, Syria, Libya...
Startled milk prole
  09/25/12
yeah, that hasn't affected the opinion of people in that are...
crusty dopamine partner
  09/25/12
Who gives a shit about their opinion? We're the ones with th...
glassy mind-boggling foreskin set
  09/25/12
just do disregard the opinions of other peoples and murder t...
crusty dopamine partner
  09/25/12
PROTIP: they won't hit our civilians if we fuck 'em up right...
glassy mind-boggling foreskin set
  09/25/12
(literal retard)
crusty dopamine partner
  09/25/12
(liberal retard)
sick abode
  09/25/12
(mouth-breathing knuckle-dragger)
...,....,,........
  06/20/25
Just don't get all self-righteous about their lack of civili...
offensive yellow rigor
  09/25/12
See above. Hit the sandniggers hard enough, they won't want ...
glassy mind-boggling foreskin set
  09/25/12
This is a people adherent to a religion that regularly produ...
crusty dopamine partner
  09/25/12
FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME
offensive yellow rigor
  09/25/12
I wonder what you will say when they think "well, we're...
Arousing nudist sandwich lettuce
  09/25/12
No probs. Just be sure to bomb 'em first on their own soil.
glassy mind-boggling foreskin set
  09/25/12
You'll turn tons of Muslims into suicide bombers with these ...
Arousing nudist sandwich lettuce
  09/25/12
...
crusty dopamine partner
  09/25/12
lol at comparing Iran to those shitholes persia is an ...
Arousing nudist sandwich lettuce
  09/25/12
sup mahmoud
crusty dopamine partner
  09/25/12
dont talk shit about my leader, shitlib.
Purple disgusting lay goyim
  09/25/12
brother i support mahmoud in his crusade against the zionist...
crusty dopamine partner
  09/25/12
seems better than loose nukes, bro
dark people who are hurt point
  09/25/12
For sure.
Startled milk prole
  09/25/12
war makes a lot of money for are job creators. also that and...
Internet-worthy hairraiser station
  09/25/12
You have to be batshit stupid to believe you acn attack a co...
offensive yellow rigor
  09/25/12
you can play tit for tat. if there is retaliation, we can...
dark people who are hurt point
  09/25/12
that would quickly conflagarate into large-scale war. You...
offensive yellow rigor
  09/25/12
so we would end up in a large scale war and the OP is retard...
Arousing nudist sandwich lettuce
  09/25/12
no, iran can keep it chill if they don't retaliate. all the...
dark people who are hurt point
  09/25/12
well, ball is in our court and it is monumentally stupid to ...
offensive yellow rigor
  09/25/12
Iran will not keep it chill if we bomb them, and you are a f...
Arousing nudist sandwich lettuce
  09/25/12
...
crusty dopamine partner
  09/25/12
i agree this is a big question mark. if they are so "r...
dark people who are hurt point
  09/25/12
it's not rational for them to give up after an attack. the l...
Arousing nudist sandwich lettuce
  09/25/12
...
crusty dopamine partner
  09/25/12
we could control the skies. of course we aren't putting boot...
dark people who are hurt point
  09/25/12
what if NATO did it and no single country claimed responsabi...
contagious friendly grandma haunted graveyard
  09/25/12
Iran retaliates by trying to close the straits and attacks I...
Arousing nudist sandwich lettuce
  09/25/12
Not if Ahmadinejad is taken out and a new leadership is impo...
contagious friendly grandma haunted graveyard
  09/25/12
by alpha navy seal teams amirite?
offensive yellow rigor
  09/25/12
drones bombing him while he's chilling with his bros
contagious friendly grandma haunted graveyard
  09/25/12
you're a shitty, dumb poster.
crusty dopamine partner
  09/25/12
everyone knows US calls NATO's shots
Dashing theater tattoo
  09/25/12
bc wed be STRAITOFHORMUZPWNED
Maroon Blood Rage Market
  09/25/12
Uh, frankly, we should do nothing and allow Iran to have nuc...
offensive yellow rigor
  09/25/12
...
crusty dopamine partner
  09/25/12
are you kidding? they are involved in a proxy war at almost...
dark people who are hurt point
  09/25/12
What was the last Tom CLancy novel you read?
offensive yellow rigor
  09/25/12
...
Insane beady-eyed pit
  09/25/12
Are you Jewish?
Arousing nudist sandwich lettuce
  09/25/12
must be flame. no one is this stupid except for fox news dud...
offensive yellow rigor
  09/25/12
so iran did not fight a proxy war in iraq during the last de...
dark people who are hurt point
  09/25/12
Uh, wasn't Hezbollah a reaction to Israel's invasion of Leba...
offensive yellow rigor
  09/25/12
ROFL. even if we assume that's true, Israel left Lebanon a l...
racy mahogany parlor quadroon
  09/25/12
People become hardened by war so some strife is to be expect...
offensive yellow rigor
  09/25/12
ROFL
racy mahogany parlor quadroon
  09/25/12
Israel left Lebanon in 2000 and the two countries fought a w...
Dashing theater tattoo
  09/25/12
(revisionist historian)
racy mahogany parlor quadroon
  09/25/12
"Israel left Lebanon a long time ago."
Dashing theater tattoo
  09/25/12
...
racy mahogany parlor quadroon
  09/25/12
they left in 2000, 12 years from today, and 6 years before ...
racy mahogany parlor quadroon
  09/25/12
12 years ago is a long time? You think a political party wit...
Dashing theater tattoo
  09/25/12
are you retarded? you claimed that Hezbollah was solely crea...
racy mahogany parlor quadroon
  09/25/12
"are you retarded? you claimed that Hezbollah was solel...
Dashing theater tattoo
  09/25/12
whatever. it was said by another tard and is the claim made ...
racy mahogany parlor quadroon
  09/25/12
Are you Jewish? answer the question.
Arousing nudist sandwich lettuce
  09/25/12
he's probably a fundie christian who enjoys Tom Clancy novel...
offensive yellow rigor
  09/25/12
nobody believes that iran agent story except you apparently
Dashing theater tattoo
  09/25/12
YOU people are so fucking stupid, it's mind boggling.
racy mahogany parlor quadroon
  09/25/12
Containing a nuclear Iran is easy man. They know that they'r...
offensive yellow rigor
  09/25/12
(Neville Chamberlain)
racy mahogany parlor quadroon
  09/25/12
retard who thinks WWII is all you need to know
offensive yellow rigor
  09/25/12
WWII is all you need to know when it comes to understanding ...
racy mahogany parlor quadroon
  09/25/12
Okay. there are occasional exceptions and Hitler was irr...
offensive yellow rigor
  09/25/12
well, as long it's just an exception to the general rule the...
sick abode
  09/25/12
...and nothing I've seen indicates Hitler-levels of irration...
offensive yellow rigor
  09/25/12
...
racy mahogany parlor quadroon
  09/25/12
and how did the fact that he turned out to be an exception t...
racy mahogany parlor quadroon
  09/25/12
a broken clock is right once a day. when did xoxo get in...
offensive yellow rigor
  09/25/12
(PWNED tard with nothing left in the tank)
racy mahogany parlor quadroon
  09/25/12
(guy who does not "get" "it")
sick abode
  09/25/12
you know they were killing and helping others to kill Americ...
racy mahogany parlor quadroon
  09/25/12
Not as simple. They clearly have national interests in those...
offensive yellow rigor
  09/25/12
and? what's you point? the Soviet Union was our enemy too.
racy mahogany parlor quadroon
  09/25/12
gee you're dumb
offensive yellow rigor
  09/25/12
no u. your fucktarded analogy accomplished nothing for your ...
racy mahogany parlor quadroon
  09/25/12
they're called drones bro
frozen diverse hominid
  09/25/12
CAUSE WHEN TWO TRIBES GO TO WAR MONEY'S ALL THAT YOU CAN ...
Vibrant therapy
  09/25/12
fuck israel
Carmine dead crackhouse
  09/25/12
i'm sure you already have. how was he?
racy mahogany parlor quadroon
  09/25/12
http://csis.org/files/publication/120906_Iran_US_Preventive_...
Drab Half-breed University
  09/25/12
*God fucks with earth by giving a bunch of crazy turdskins a...
massive coral azn
  09/25/12
that shit used to be under relatively effective ottoman cont...
Drab Half-breed University
  09/25/12
(Guy who thinks Turks are Arab) (Guy who thinks Persian Emp...
massive coral azn
  09/25/12
most of iran's domestic oil production comes out of khuzesta...
Drab Half-breed University
  09/25/12
*Israel takes on modern Ottoman Empire* *America ends up wi...
massive coral azn
  09/25/12
You're a strange cat
snowy lascivious range gaping
  09/25/12
Just your typical political-sceince major pumo
massive coral azn
  09/25/12
How do you get any of that? The Ottoman empire did cover S...
snowy lascivious range gaping
  09/25/12
Read a fucking book faggot, turks ran the ottoman empire, ar...
massive coral azn
  09/25/12
You're just spewing disconnected statements now
snowy lascivious range gaping
  09/25/12
You must not know my nigga MUSTAFA
massive coral azn
  09/25/12
That would have been sweet :(
snowy lascivious range gaping
  09/25/12
Such an obv flame
offensive yellow rigor
  09/25/12
feels like bort archeology digging up this old shit
'"''"''''''''"""'"
  06/19/25
lol no one will ever guess with poast ITT was mine
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  06/20/25
you're right nsam, no one will guess which post in this thre...
UN peacekeeper
  06/20/25
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
computer online
  06/20/25
Exhibit 1
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  06/20/25
...
'"''"''''''''"""'"
  06/20/25
wait 2 weeks
Brussels Sprout: Brussels,Helsinki,Stockholm,Kyiv
  06/20/25


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Date: September 25th, 2012 10:08 AM
Author: Startled milk prole

If there any reason we've have to have a real "war" with Iran? Why couldn't we just drop bunker busters on their nuke facilities, blow up the costal ASM facilities and destroy any warships they send into the Persian Gulf? It's not like we have to invade them. And they have no tell ability to hit us back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21654648)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 10:09 AM
Author: snowy lascivious range gaping

They live next to a lot of oil producers bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21654652)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 10:11 AM
Author: Startled milk prole

So they're going to attack some OTHER country in retaliation against the USA?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21654659)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 10:13 AM
Author: snowy lascivious range gaping

Who knows, man. Cut off oil flowing out of the Gulf -> oil prices surge -> America cries, loses hoap -> China drops 5 million troops into Iran to restore stability

But maybe they aren't thinking that far ahead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21654665)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 10:13 AM
Author: Arousing nudist sandwich lettuce

they'll blockade the straits and try to shut off oil production, and will also attack american bases. besides, attacking their nuclear facilities is only a delay tactic. it will just make them hate us more than they did before, and they will redouble their efforts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21654667)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 10:15 AM
Author: crusty dopamine partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21654674)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:05 PM
Author: Deranged business firm striped hyena

And they should then be crippled.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655355)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:12 PM
Author: Dashing theater tattoo

which would require war

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655418)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:14 PM
Author: territorial aquamarine alpha native

The entire Western world should just just annihilate their military capability.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655433)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:17 PM
Author: offensive yellow rigor

*touch of a button*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655449)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:21 PM
Author: Maniacal Wild Stag Film

This sounds like an excellent idea

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655495)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 10:31 AM
Author: ...,....,,........

ikr???

I can't imagine any complications that might arise from this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49034579)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 10:13 AM
Author: adventurous depressive office

I can't imagine which one they'd pick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21654668)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 10:11 AM
Author: crusty dopamine partner

just do pre-emptively bombing a country because it tries to build up the resources to defend itself, bro. seems like a great policy. can't imagine that there would be any blowback at all from such a policy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21654661)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 10:12 AM
Author: Startled milk prole

Worked fine when we did it to Iraq, Syria, Libya...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21654662)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 10:14 AM
Author: crusty dopamine partner

yeah, that hasn't affected the opinion of people in that area of the world w/r/t the US at all. surely this hasn't made us any less safe in the future from MAF people from bombed out countries that we needlessly preemptively struck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21654671)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:30 PM
Author: glassy mind-boggling foreskin set

Who gives a shit about their opinion? We're the ones with the Air Force

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655153)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:31 PM
Author: crusty dopamine partner

just do disregard the opinions of other peoples and murder them and then act SHOCKED when they attack your civilians on your soil.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655158)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:56 PM
Author: glassy mind-boggling foreskin set

PROTIP: they won't hit our civilians if we fuck 'em up right the FIRST TIME

HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655294)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:57 PM
Author: crusty dopamine partner

(literal retard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655301)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:08 PM
Author: sick abode

(liberal retard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655385)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 10:32 AM
Author: ...,....,,........

(mouth-breathing knuckle-dragger)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49034583)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:31 PM
Author: offensive yellow rigor

Just don't get all self-righteous about their lack of civilization when they hit back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655161)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:56 PM
Author: glassy mind-boggling foreskin set

See above. Hit the sandniggers hard enough, they won't want us giving them seconds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655298)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:59 PM
Author: crusty dopamine partner

This is a people adherent to a religion that regularly produces suicide bombers to attack those that attack or harm them. You really think, "just do hitting them hard enough, bro" is going to stop them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655311)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:03 PM
Author: offensive yellow rigor

FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655347)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:33 PM
Author: Arousing nudist sandwich lettuce

I wonder what you will say when they think "well, we're the ones with the suicide bombers willing to blow themselves up."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655173)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:57 PM
Author: glassy mind-boggling foreskin set

No probs. Just be sure to bomb 'em first on their own soil.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655304)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:59 PM
Author: Arousing nudist sandwich lettuce

You'll turn tons of Muslims into suicide bombers with these policies. The Muslims already in America and Europe are already more radical than their parents were, and I see no reason to think such policies will help solve that problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655310)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:59 PM
Author: crusty dopamine partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655314)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 10:14 AM
Author: Arousing nudist sandwich lettuce

lol at comparing Iran to those shitholes

persia is an old civilization that has been around for thousands of years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21654672)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 10:15 AM
Author: crusty dopamine partner

sup mahmoud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21654675)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:34 PM
Author: Purple disgusting lay goyim

dont talk shit about my leader, shitlib.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655176)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:35 PM
Author: crusty dopamine partner

brother i support mahmoud in his crusade against the zionists. just pointing out that mahmoud used the same "old civilizations with deep historical roots" language the other day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655186)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 10:46 AM
Author: dark people who are hurt point

seems better than loose nukes, bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21654755)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 3:12 PM
Author: Startled milk prole

For sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21656126)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:28 PM
Author: Internet-worthy hairraiser station

war makes a lot of money for are job creators. also that and the fact that most reptiles, jew or gentile, have some kind of fucked up apocalyptic drive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655136)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:29 PM
Author: offensive yellow rigor

You have to be batshit stupid to believe you acn attack a country with no retaliation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655146)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:40 PM
Author: dark people who are hurt point

you can play tit for tat.

if there is retaliation, we can retaliate ourselves x2. if they want to keep it going, be our guest. but we can keep it limited.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655216)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:42 PM
Author: offensive yellow rigor

that would quickly conflagarate into large-scale war.

You're basically expecting them to accept the US bombing their territory.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655223)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:44 PM
Author: Arousing nudist sandwich lettuce

so we would end up in a large scale war and the OP is retarded. got it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655233)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:54 PM
Author: dark people who are hurt point

no, iran can keep it chill if they don't retaliate. all the leadership keeps their lives and palaces and shit and power. if they want to go round 2, then we go round 2 but keep it limited. if they want a full scale war, then that is a possibility but we give them the option of not escalating that far because they will invariably lose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655280)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:55 PM
Author: offensive yellow rigor

well, ball is in our court and it is monumentally stupid to think you can bomb another country with impunity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655286)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:55 PM
Author: Arousing nudist sandwich lettuce

Iran will not keep it chill if we bomb them, and you are a fucking idiot if you think they will. OP was asking why we don't just bomb them and avoid war. The answer is that bombing them will lead to war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655288)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:57 PM
Author: crusty dopamine partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655299)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:02 PM
Author: dark people who are hurt point

i agree this is a big question mark. if they are so "rational" they would chill b/c escalation only increases the liklihood we target the leadership and non-nuclear or air defense facilities.

i agree it is not clear what would happen though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655336)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:04 PM
Author: Arousing nudist sandwich lettuce

it's not rational for them to give up after an attack. the leadership doesn't believe that we can crush their military easily (they are correct) and they know that there is a 0% chance we just nuke the population centers. a real war with iran would be messy and horrifically costly. why should they let us push them around this way?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655353)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:06 PM
Author: crusty dopamine partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655370)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:14 PM
Author: dark people who are hurt point

we could control the skies. of course we aren't putting boots on the ground. but we can do a lot of damage from the air.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655431)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:30 PM
Author: contagious friendly grandma haunted graveyard

what if NATO did it and no single country claimed responsability?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655155)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:32 PM
Author: Arousing nudist sandwich lettuce

Iran retaliates by trying to close the straits and attacks Israel/American bases. Nothing will be different.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655165)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:50 PM
Author: contagious friendly grandma haunted graveyard

Not if Ahmadinejad is taken out and a new leadership is imposed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655257)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:51 PM
Author: offensive yellow rigor

by alpha navy seal teams amirite?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655263)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:55 PM
Author: contagious friendly grandma haunted graveyard

drones bombing him while he's chilling with his bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655287)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:00 PM
Author: crusty dopamine partner

you're a shitty, dumb poster.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655321)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:14 PM
Author: Dashing theater tattoo

everyone knows US calls NATO's shots

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655432)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:33 PM
Author: Maroon Blood Rage Market

bc wed be STRAITOFHORMUZPWNED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655175)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:34 PM
Author: offensive yellow rigor

Uh, frankly, we should do nothing and allow Iran to have nuclear weapons.

Iran is actually a rational leadership. They aren't reckless. They also haven't started any foreign wars. All of their wars have been near their home soil, often in defense like the Iran-Iraq war.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655178)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:35 PM
Author: crusty dopamine partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655189)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:43 PM
Author: dark people who are hurt point

are you kidding? they are involved in a proxy war at almost any given time..for a while they were involved in one in iraq and one in lebanon; they are involved in syria; they are fomenting unrest in the gulf arab states; they conduct foreign terrorist operations like that one in indonesia or thailand and the attempted assasination of the saudi dood.

iran is aggresively interventionist, muslim fundamentalist and a declared enemy of the U.S. they are like about the worse country to let get nukes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655225)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:44 PM
Author: offensive yellow rigor

What was the last Tom CLancy novel you read?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655231)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 3:49 PM
Author: Insane beady-eyed pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21656319)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:45 PM
Author: Arousing nudist sandwich lettuce

Are you Jewish?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655234)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:46 PM
Author: offensive yellow rigor

must be flame. no one is this stupid except for fox news dudes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655239)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:52 PM
Author: dark people who are hurt point

so iran did not fight a proxy war in iraq during the last decade, a war against israel through its proxy hezbollah and is not directly intervening in syria right now?

an iranian agent was not caught earlier this year blowing up his own leg in thailand?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655264)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:54 PM
Author: offensive yellow rigor

Uh, wasn't Hezbollah a reaction to Israel's invasion of Lebanon?

You do know that every country has "secret agents" no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655282)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:56 PM
Author: racy mahogany parlor quadroon

ROFL. even if we assume that's true, Israel left Lebanon a long time ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655295)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:57 PM
Author: offensive yellow rigor

People become hardened by war so some strife is to be expected following a pullout. Why don't you detail the level of support iran gives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655305)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:01 PM
Author: racy mahogany parlor quadroon

ROFL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655331)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:18 PM
Author: Dashing theater tattoo

Israel left Lebanon in 2000 and the two countries fought a war with each other in 2006. Hezbollah fought off Israel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655464)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:21 PM
Author: racy mahogany parlor quadroon

(revisionist historian)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655489)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:23 PM
Author: Dashing theater tattoo

"Israel left Lebanon a long time ago."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655505)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:27 PM
Author: racy mahogany parlor quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655536)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:28 PM
Author: racy mahogany parlor quadroon

they left in 2000, 12 years from today, and 6 years before they kidnapped Israeli soldiers which sparked the last conflict.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655541)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:36 PM
Author: Dashing theater tattoo

12 years ago is a long time? You think a political party with elected officials and a strong base of support in the shia south should have disbanded because their original purpose(expelling israel from southern lebanon) was fulfilled?

and to the last part (revisionist historian)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655595)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:41 PM
Author: racy mahogany parlor quadroon

are you retarded? you claimed that Hezbollah was solely created as a result of Israel's presence in Lebanon. i'm not saying it should have been disbanded. but, and this addresses your retardation in the last part, they sure as hell shouldn't be encroaching on Israel's territory and kidnapping its soldiers, 6 years after Israel left Lebanon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655627)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:44 PM
Author: Dashing theater tattoo

"are you retarded? you claimed that Hezbollah was solely created as a result of Israel's presence in Lebanon." link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655649)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:48 PM
Author: racy mahogany parlor quadroon

whatever. it was said by another tard and is the claim made by Hezbollah itself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655662)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:56 PM
Author: Arousing nudist sandwich lettuce

Are you Jewish? answer the question.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655293)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:58 PM
Author: offensive yellow rigor

he's probably a fundie christian who enjoys Tom Clancy novels

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655308)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:15 PM
Author: Dashing theater tattoo

nobody believes that iran agent story except you apparently

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655441)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:52 PM
Author: racy mahogany parlor quadroon

YOU people are so fucking stupid, it's mind boggling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655266)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:59 PM
Author: offensive yellow rigor

Containing a nuclear Iran is easy man. They know that they're signing their own death warrants if they nuke so they're not gonna do it.

your idea requires several leaps of imagination

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655315)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:04 PM
Author: racy mahogany parlor quadroon

(Neville Chamberlain)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655349)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:05 PM
Author: offensive yellow rigor

retard who thinks WWII is all you need to know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655362)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:07 PM
Author: racy mahogany parlor quadroon

WWII is all you need to know when it comes to understanding that your "all world leaders always act rationally" shtick fucking sucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655382)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:11 PM
Author: offensive yellow rigor

Okay.

there are occasional exceptions and Hitler was irrational.

but he was the exception to the rule. He isn't the rule, no matter how much you wish it were the case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655405)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:13 PM
Author: sick abode

well, as long it's just an exception to the general rule then I agree there is no reason to worry about it.

( ^ guy with exceptional bar passage rate)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655427)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:16 PM
Author: offensive yellow rigor

...and nothing I've seen indicates Hitler-levels of irrationality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655448)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:21 PM
Author: racy mahogany parlor quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655496)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:21 PM
Author: racy mahogany parlor quadroon

and how did the fact that he turned out to be an exception to the rule help when people like Churchill were warning everyone that he was not a rational actor? fucktards like you just went with the program because, hey, the rule says otherwise.

aside from that, what makes you think that Iran doesn't want a war? do you know what's going on inside of Iran? were you oblivious to the protests that were taking place there? the leadership is basically made up of paranoid, religious mullahs who are trying to hold on to power.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655485)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:28 PM
Author: offensive yellow rigor

a broken clock is right once a day.

when did xoxo get invaded by retard warmongers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655542)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:42 PM
Author: racy mahogany parlor quadroon

(PWNED tard with nothing left in the tank)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655641)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:12 PM
Author: sick abode

(guy who does not "get" "it")

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655423)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:49 PM
Author: racy mahogany parlor quadroon

you know they were killing and helping others to kill Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan, right? you're ok with that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655255)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:51 PM
Author: offensive yellow rigor

Not as simple. They clearly have national interests in those countries since they are right at their border, so it is to be expected for them to have some presence there.

This is analogous to like the Soviet Union attacking the US b/c they supplied arms to the Afghans in the Afghan-Soviet war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655262)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:53 PM
Author: racy mahogany parlor quadroon

and? what's you point? the Soviet Union was our enemy too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655273)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 12:56 PM
Author: offensive yellow rigor

gee you're dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655296)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:00 PM
Author: racy mahogany parlor quadroon

no u. your fucktarded analogy accomplished nothing for your argument. the laughable implication that the Soviets didn't attack the U.S. for some other reason other than their own interest in self-preservation is as retarded an idea as you'll ever find, even on this site.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655323)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:05 PM
Author: frozen diverse hominid

they're called drones bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655361)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:24 PM
Author: Vibrant therapy

CAUSE WHEN TWO TRIBES GO TO WAR

MONEY'S ALL THAT YOU CAN SCOORE!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21655517)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 3:19 PM
Author: Carmine dead crackhouse

fuck israel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21656145)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 3:38 PM
Author: racy mahogany parlor quadroon

i'm sure you already have. how was he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21656235)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 3:24 PM
Author: Drab Half-breed University

http://csis.org/files/publication/120906_Iran_US_Preventive_Strikes.pdf

Analyzing the Impact of Preventive Strikes Against Irans Nuclear Facilities

"The only effective counter-strike capability Iran has other than asymmetric warfare in the Gulf, and the use of proxies like Hezbollah, is their Ballistic Missile Force. A massive retaliation strike with whatever launching sites that have survived the U.S. first strike could still cause quite a considerable damage to the GCC states, in energy, finance and various other critical infrastructure centers. "

basically, by attacking iran, you risk up to a yearlong shutdown of a large percentage of saudi arabia's oil export capacity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21656159)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 3:27 PM
Author: massive coral azn

*God fucks with earth by giving a bunch of crazy turdskins a monopoly on the most vital commodity on earth*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21656170)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 3:29 PM
Author: Drab Half-breed University

that shit used to be under relatively effective ottoman control until we and russia fucked with them in WWI and splintered everything to hell.

a latter-day, european-oriented ottoman empire with control over the gulf's oil would be much-preferred compared to what we have now. istanbul would be a gleaming petro-capital; even greece probably would have gotten a lot of spillover benefits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21656182)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 3:32 PM
Author: massive coral azn

(Guy who thinks Turks are Arab)

(Guy who thinks Persian Empire was in Ottoman Empire)

(literal retard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21656197)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 3:37 PM
Author: Drab Half-breed University

most of iran's domestic oil production comes out of khuzestan, which is arab-dominated. turks managed the gulf well because they were NOT arabs. as "foreigners," they weren't constantly getting dragged into local tribal or sectarian disputes; their main goal was stability.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21656220)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 3:41 PM
Author: massive coral azn

*Israel takes on modern Ottoman Empire*

*America ends up with NO oil*

*WGWAG ends*



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21656254)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 3:42 PM
Author: snowy lascivious range gaping

You're a strange cat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21656258)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 3:44 PM
Author: massive coral azn

Just your typical political-sceince major pumo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21656272)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 3:39 PM
Author: snowy lascivious range gaping

How do you get any of that?

The Ottoman empire did cover Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iraq, and Libya you ape

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21656240)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 3:43 PM
Author: massive coral azn

Read a fucking book faggot, turks ran the ottoman empire, arabs were just their bitches.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21656264)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 3:45 PM
Author: snowy lascivious range gaping

You're just spewing disconnected statements now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21656283)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 3:46 PM
Author: massive coral azn

You must not know my nigga MUSTAFA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21656294)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 3:35 PM
Author: snowy lascivious range gaping

That would have been sweet :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21656212)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 3:48 PM
Author: offensive yellow rigor

Such an obv flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#21656308)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: '"''"''''''''"""'"

feels like bort archeology digging up this old shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49033806)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 12:36 AM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


lol no one will ever guess with poast ITT was mine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49033996)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 8:17 AM
Author: UN peacekeeper

you're right nsam, no one will guess which post in this thread was yours

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49034304)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 8:27 AM
Author: computer online (🧐)

HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49034321)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 10:04 AM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


Exhibit 1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061635&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49034502)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: '"''"''''''''"""'"



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Date: June 20th, 2025 8:10 AM
Author: Brussels Sprout: Brussels,Helsinki,Stockholm,Kyiv


wait 2 weeks

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