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Since the 1980s, more than 800 million Chinese have risen ou...
,.,,.,.,,,,,,.....................
  06/23/25
small-town test-taking experts tp
Militarized Persian Atoms
  06/23/25
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mountain cat
  06/23/25
China’s vaunted socialist system provides a weaker soc...
Trump Tariffs Can Do No Wrong
  06/23/25
china is similar to the US in a lot of ways. needing money t...
guy getting really upset abt the middle east onlin
  06/23/25
the funny thing is that the chinacucks would be totally fuck...
Pope Leo XXX
  06/23/25
Lold and stopped reading @ Boris Gao If u believe this NY...
AZNgirl riding Persian Missile to Handsomeistan
  06/23/25
bottom 50% of americans are LITERALLY retarded bro u know th...
computer online
  06/23/25
Ohhhh so weird a literal peasant society from 40 years ago l...
AZNgirl riding Persian Missile to Handsomeistan
  06/23/25
the bottom 50% of chinese eat food cooked in sewer oil, do y...
woah
  06/23/25
they don't have 40% population (and rising) as black/hispani...
computer online
  06/23/25
They have meaningful percentages of homes without running wa...
woah
  06/23/25
Yes, because they're genetically very homogeneous and much c...
computer online
  06/23/25
white subsistence farmers were still more productive 125 yea...
woah
  06/23/25
They dont even have this anymore I know it's hard for u bird...
AZNgirl riding Persian Missile to Handsomeistan
  06/23/25
U r truly stupid if u believe this I suggest go visit china ...
AZNgirl riding Persian Missile to Handsomeistan
  06/23/25
Narrator: "There are hundreds of millions of truly poor...
guy getting really upset abt the middle east onlin
  06/23/25
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_provincial-lev...
woah
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The poorest Chinese province is Gansu at $7,416 which is $15...
''"'''"''"''''"''
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Ding fag, my source have Gansu at $12,599 PPP which puts it ...
woah
  06/23/25
Do you think the same PPP multiplier should not be used for ...
''"'''"''"''''"''
  06/23/25
They all pay in the same RMB right? You can nitpick over the...
woah
  06/23/25
So we like the NYT now, Trumpkins?
animeboi
  06/23/25
? OP is a reddit tranny
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  06/23/25
From coal miner to actor is quote the career change
cannon
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 7:56 AM
Author: ,.,,.,.,,,,,,.....................


Since the 1980s, more than 800 million Chinese have risen out of poverty. China’s middle class expanded from virtually no one to about 400 million. Villagers moved to cities. Tens of millions of people became the first in their families to attend college.

Today, China’s economic growth has slowed. As wages stagnate and jobs disappear, the promise of upward social mobility is eroding, especially for those from modest backgrounds.

For many people like Boris Gao, the Chinese Dream no longer feels achievable.

After Mr. Gao’s parents were laid off from their jobs at state-owned factories, his father drove a taxi and his mother stayed home. The family struggled to make ends meet. To save money, his mother canceled a text message service from his school, causing him to miss notifications of homework and school activities.

But Mr. Gao was exceptionally driven. After graduating from college in 2016, he worked hard, saved aggressively and attended a graduate program in Hong Kong. Since 2024, his job hunt has been an ordeal. One company asked him to work with no pay during a trial period. He quit a job after not being paid for two months. Another company rejected him because he was educated outside mainland China, making him politically unreliable, he was told.

In one interview, he was asked about his parents’ professions, which is not unusual in China. “Your family has low social status,” Mr. Gao was told and did not get the job.

“To them, perseverance is a defect,” he said. “If you have to struggle, it means you’re not good enough.”

Anxiety over inequality is growing in China. Children of privilege inherit not only wealth but also prestigious jobs and powerful connections. Children of laborers and farmers, no matter how driven or well educated, often struggle to break through.

It’s a dynamic that would feel familiar to many in the United States and some other developed nations. But in China, the stakes are higher. The average standard of living is lower, and the social safety net is far more fragile.

The disillusionment is being captured sarcastically online. One buzzword is “Pindie,” a biting term for nepotism that means “competing through one’s father.” Another is “county Brahmins,” which lampoons small-town elites who gain status by monopolizing connections and jobs.

The discontent over privilege boiled over recently when a trainee doctor in the center of an extramarital affair with a doctor appeared to have questionable credentials. People noted that her father led a big state-owned enterprise and that her mother was a senior official at a university. After an investigation, her medical license was revoked.

The online debate fueled outrage that family ties, not merit, are what advance careers in China today.

“At a time when competition for quality education is fierce and jobs are hard to find after graduation, fairness is not just a moral imperative,” wrote Hu Xijin, the retired editor of the official Global Times tabloid. “It is essential to maintaining social stability.”

To understand this shift, I put out a call for Chinese people to write to me about their experiences in trying to move up from working-class backgrounds. All the responses I received were from men. I interviewed five of them, all between the ages of 25 and 49. They asked that I use only their family names or their English names because they feared government retribution.

The two oldest in the group did not go to college but rode China’s wave of growth that took off at the start of the century. They are now worried they will slip back to where they started.

One of those two, who asked that I use only his surname, Zhao, dropped out of high school and became a coal miner. For three years, he worked eight-hour shifts in dark, freezing mine shafts. Then he moved to Beijing to pursue acting and worked briefly as a film extra.

In 2014, China’s housing market was booming. Mr. Zhao started working in real estate. His $700 monthly pay matched what he had made as a miner, but, he said, “I could see the sun and live a normal life.”

In 2017, he became a mortgage broker, and his pay increased several fold. One month in 2020, he earned $15,000. He married and bought a car.

Then the housing market collapsed. He has had no income for the past year. He has considered returning to the mines, but the thought of that dark world repelled him. Now Mr. Zhao, 38, and his wife live on her $500 monthly salary. Children are out of the question.

“I’m stuck in limbo,” he said. “The better life is out of reach, and I can’t fall low enough to start over. I have no idea what I should be doing.”

The three younger men I interviewed, born in the 1990s, called themselves “small-town test-taking experts.” That is slang used to describe strivers who believed education would lift them up, only to find they were shut out of elite networks and stuck in dead-end jobs.

The three men grew up in rural and working-class homes and rose above their parents’ social class through hard work and by attending universities. But they all learned it would be hard to fully escape their socioeconomic backgrounds.

Two of them had to give up spots at leading foreign schools, one at Columbia University and the other at the London School of Economics, because of the cost.

All three recalled that, when they were growing up, their parents had paid little attention to their education.

Their experiences with education were the opposite of those of children in many of China’s upper-middle-class families. Those parents pushed their children into math and computer classes, and piano lessons and English tutoring. They are driven by the fear of letting their children “lose at the starting line.” These families may have more in common with their American peers than with China’s working class.

For the three small-town strivers I interviewed, their educations opened their eyes to inequality.

One of them, Gary Liang, said most of the parents of classmates at his elementary school had worked at factories. When he was in high school, most parents were professionals. One student had a foreign English-language tutor.

The contrast was even more jarring when Mr. Liang entered a prestigious university in central China. The father of one of his roommates was a local-level Communist Party secretary; another roommate’s father was a university dean.

While his roommates dined out, Mr. Liang got by on food from the university canteen and tutored high school students to earn some cash. At the time, he did not understand why his roommates spent so much time networking at school.

“It’s very unfair,” said Mr. Liang, who is now pursuing a Ph.D. in Japan. “You put in so much effort, and then you realize that some things are just a lot easier for other people, or not nearly as hard for them.”

One sought-after path to move up in China runs through state-owned enterprises, which can offer elite, stable jobs. But landing one can require the right connections.

Josh Tang, a STEM graduate from a rural background, wanted to change his career from the grueling work culture of the tech industry. His father, a manual laborer who had once owned a small business, asked village relatives to help his son land a job at a bank. Mr. Tang submitted two applications but didn’t get an interview.

When the economy was better, jobs at state-owned enterprises occasionally trickled down to people with his family background, said Mr. Tang, who went back to work in tech. But now, he added, “they’re viewed as the safest bets, so they circulate within the same class.”

“They’re hoarded, not shared,” he said.

Li Yuan writes The New New World column, which focuses on China’s growing influence on the world by examining its businesses, politics and society.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49042023)



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Date: June 23rd, 2025 8:01 AM
Author: Militarized Persian Atoms (No Future)

small-town test-taking experts tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49042030)



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Date: June 23rd, 2025 8:17 AM
Author: mountain cat



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Date: June 23rd, 2025 8:08 AM
Author: Trump Tariffs Can Do No Wrong (TDNW)

China’s vaunted socialist system provides a weaker social safety net than the U.S., where you’re basically left to sink or swim

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Date: June 23rd, 2025 8:08 AM
Author: guy getting really upset abt the middle east onlin

china is similar to the US in a lot of ways. needing money to live a comfortable life is one of them. but we actually have much, much higher socioeconomic mobility than they do

for all the bitching and whining about america's "inequality" problem - we actually still have the best opportunities for socioeconomic mobility in the world here. i'm not sure if any other country is even close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49042034)



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Date: June 23rd, 2025 12:49 PM
Author: Pope Leo XXX

the funny thing is that the chinacucks would be totally fucked if they grew up in china vs here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49042671)



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Date: June 23rd, 2025 8:29 AM
Author: AZNgirl riding Persian Missile to Handsomeistan

Lold and stopped reading @ Boris Gao

If u believe this NYT endless anti China bs then u r retarded

It's growing at 5% and wow to has 1.4b chinks so not everyone gets their dream jerb like in the US where the bottom 50% are sooooo upwardly mobile and content

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49042057)



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Date: June 23rd, 2025 8:33 AM
Author: computer online (🧐)

bottom 50% of americans are LITERALLY retarded bro u know that's not a fair comparison.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49042062)



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Date: June 23rd, 2025 8:36 AM
Author: AZNgirl riding Persian Missile to Handsomeistan

Ohhhh so weird a literal peasant society from 40 years ago like china still has well performing bottom 50%, sooooo odd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49042065)



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Date: June 23rd, 2025 8:37 AM
Author: woah (hitler did nothing wrong)

the bottom 50% of chinese eat food cooked in sewer oil, do you think they're any less retarded? The peak of the Chinese bell curve might be a few points to the right of the US, but the tails are much fatter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49042069)



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Date: June 23rd, 2025 8:38 AM
Author: computer online (🧐)

they don't have 40% population (and rising) as black/hispanic. sorry bro that's just how it is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49042071)



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Date: June 23rd, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: woah (hitler did nothing wrong)

They have meaningful percentages of homes without running water and electricity. Do you think the people screwing together your refrigerator 7 days a week, 12 hours a day for no money are any smarter than your average Jose?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49042075)



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Date: June 23rd, 2025 8:47 AM
Author: computer online (🧐)

Yes, because they're genetically very homogeneous and much closer to middle class Chinese than hispanics and certainly blacks are to us. Do you think white people are retarded because 125 years ago most of us were subsistence farmers or working in shitfactories? Stop coming up with retarded gotchas to deflect from the raw genetic/IQ facts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49042079)



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Date: June 23rd, 2025 8:50 AM
Author: woah (hitler did nothing wrong)

white subsistence farmers were still more productive 125 years ago than a modern chinese rice paddy. Sorry bro, just is what it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49042088)



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Date: June 23rd, 2025 8:56 AM
Author: AZNgirl riding Persian Missile to Handsomeistan

They dont even have this anymore I know it's hard for u birdbrains to fathom a place improving fast since the US has been stagnant for 30 plus years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49042100)



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Date: June 23rd, 2025 8:55 AM
Author: AZNgirl riding Persian Missile to Handsomeistan

U r truly stupid if u believe this I suggest go visit china and u will actually wonder if there are any truly poor ppl left there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49042094)



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Date: June 23rd, 2025 9:02 AM
Author: guy getting really upset abt the middle east onlin

Narrator: "There are hundreds of millions of truly poor people living in China."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49042113)



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Date: June 23rd, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: woah (hitler did nothing wrong)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_provincial-level_divisions_by_GDP_per_capita#GDPpc_by_PPP_intl_dollar_in_main_years

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

There are parts of China that wouldn't even make the top 10 richest countries in NIGGA AFRICA

Only 2 districts in China (Beijing and Shanghai) have higher GDP/Capita (PPP adjusted) than every country in Africa.

They're even poorer in 2024 than BEANER NATION was in 2018 before a bunch of new shit got built in Mexico

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_states_by_GDP_per_capita

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49042167)



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Date: June 23rd, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: ''"'''"''"''''"''

The poorest Chinese province is Gansu at $7,416 which is $15,000 per capita PPP, the same as South Africa.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49042441)



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Date: June 23rd, 2025 11:42 AM
Author: woah (hitler did nothing wrong)

Ding fag, my source have Gansu at $12,599 PPP which puts it behind South Africa at $15,654 PPP and would slot in at #12th rank of African countries behind Eswatini (the artist formerly known as Swaziland) and ahead of Namibia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49042449)



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Date: June 23rd, 2025 11:46 AM
Author: ''"'''"''"''''"''

Do you think the same PPP multiplier should not be used for regional economies varying from Beijing to a western province?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49042460)



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Date: June 23rd, 2025 12:37 PM
Author: woah (hitler did nothing wrong)

They all pay in the same RMB right? You can nitpick over the basket of goods and how they're priced if you want, but there's no PPP adjustment that makes any US state poorer than Africa lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49042622)



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Date: June 23rd, 2025 9:01 AM
Author: animeboi (.)

So we like the NYT now, Trumpkins?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49042107)



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Date: June 23rd, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.


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OP is a reddit tranny

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49042661)



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Date: June 23rd, 2025 12:23 PM
Author: cannon

From coal miner to actor is quote the career change

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742146&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49042578)