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LJL at how easy 1L must be these days with ChatGPT

1. Get outlines from 3 previous students for each class from...
Let\'s dispel with this fiction
  09/28/24
I was testing out o1 preview edition with LSAT type question...
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  09/28/24
Exactly. Will be interesting to track law school admission n...
Let\'s dispel with this fiction
  09/28/24
They are using o1 to create data for training the next gener...
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Mahchine'ing the $ecret truth of the univer$e
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The LSAT should be the easiest thing for it to do.
https://imgur.com/a/IkQnGlr
  10/05/24
I am somewhat sympathetic to this view but it’s alread...
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J Dilla
  09/28/24
Not flame you can pretty much chatgpt any law question
Fresh Mango
  10/04/24
You will get absurdly wrong but very convincing answers. Mos...
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  10/04/24
Lmao keep telling yourself that.
Fresh Mango
  10/04/24
I use them daily because even the shit answers are a good st...
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it's good for discovery requests as well.
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CR. Lexis AI works to fetch cases but lol @ trusting it to a...
Lynn Conway
  10/04/24
Right but it 100% points you in the right direction. I&rsquo...
Fresh Mango
  10/04/24
What’s so difficult about using boolean search terms?
Wang Hernandez
  10/05/24
It’s terrible if you ask it anything that requires jud...
Smoker
  10/04/24
Wow that sounds really different from what a human lawyer do...
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wait till biggus dickus hears of this
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SpEd with a 3.9 GPA in a TTT major attending Boalt
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bcs
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pitbulls eating your face in hell forever tp
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Kenneth Play
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Justinian
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t14
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180 Missiles
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piv
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t14
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How do we take advantage of this for our deli stocks? (Delic...
Fresh Mango
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I do this for my fiancee using her pharmacy school letters t...
Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle
  10/04/24
Works OK, but IME it is not very good at providing the decep...
Justinian
  10/05/24
I use Lexis AI (their version of GPT) to vet all my leads wi...
t14
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What should lawyers do about ChatGPT? I use it now for firs...
When I grow up I want to be a pumo
  10/05/24
please tell me Big4 accounting and BigFinance is safe
htt
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*how irrelevant
Self-serious Macbook Airplane Girl
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Date: September 28th, 2024 7:15 PM
Author: Let\'s dispel with this fiction

1. Get outlines from 3 previous students for each class from last year.

2. Tell chatgpt to create a master outline.

3. Read each outline once per week. Ask chatgpt to help make analogies for legal issues with shit you like (e.g. South Park, Star Wars, etc.) and mnemonic devices to help you memorize every outline. As it gets closer to exams, tell chatgpt to create a "leansheets" style outline for each class.

4. Quiz yourself on it with chatgpt voice.

All this can be done for the bar exam too lmao. Throw in a bunch of old exam questions and ask chatgpt to create new questions in the same style.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48141356)



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Date: September 28th, 2024 7:21 PM
Author: ..,.,,,...,..,,.,...,.,,.,..


I was testing out o1 preview edition with LSAT type questions and it got every one right. I understand there is a difference between the LSAT and being a lawyer, but people starting out now should not feel comfortable with the idea they will have a long career. Language models were babbling like idiots a few years ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48141371)



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Date: September 28th, 2024 7:27 PM
Author: Let\'s dispel with this fiction

Exactly. Will be interesting to track law school admission numbers over the next few years. I have a feeling it will plummet significantly.

o1 preview is just today. What will Chatgpt 6 or whatever look like 3 years from now. The law student starting today is royally fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48141380)



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Date: September 28th, 2024 8:10 PM
Author: ..,.,,,...,..,,.,...,.,,.,..


They are using o1 to create data for training the next generation of models. So now they can generate as much high quality of reasoning data as they want and then use it to train GPT-5 or 6, which can then be used for more synthetic data creation. Billions and billions of reasoning traces to learn from. The models by 2030 will be completely nuts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48141492)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 9:24 AM
Author: Mahchine'ing the $ecret truth of the univer$e (My 'Mahchine' lately running on dial-up circa 1999)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48162186)



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Date: October 5th, 2024 4:49 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/IkQnGlr


The LSAT should be the easiest thing for it to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48166996)



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Date: October 5th, 2024 5:07 PM
Author: ..,.,,,...,..,,.,...,.,,.,..


I am somewhat sympathetic to this view but it’s already scoring 175ish. So well above median performance. There’s also a clear path for model improvement to tackle more complex domains. I see little reason to believe other skills are permanently out of reach of models trained more extensively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48167043)



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Date: September 28th, 2024 7:33 PM
Author: J Dilla



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48141387)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 6:58 AM
Author: Fresh Mango

Not flame you can pretty much chatgpt any law question

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48161948)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 7:10 AM
Author: .- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .

You will get absurdly wrong but very convincing answers. Most of the time the real answer is "there is no case law exactly on point but...." The Charbots can't handle that and will literally invent law in an attempt to give you a definitive answer which makes them dangerous. They misread cases for the sake of definitivnous.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48161957)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 7:18 AM
Author: Fresh Mango

Lmao keep telling yourself that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48161963)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 7:21 AM
Author: .- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .

I use them daily because even the shit answers are a good starting point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48161967)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 9:06 AM
Author: .,..,..,.,,..,..,,,,,,,,..,...,.,.,.,


it's good for discovery requests as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48162145)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 7:21 AM
Author: Lynn Conway

CR. Lexis AI works to fetch cases but lol @ trusting it to actually do anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48161970)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 8:12 AM
Author: Fresh Mango

Right but it 100% points you in the right direction. I’m a shitty researcher and it helps give me cases as a starting point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48162050)



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Date: October 5th, 2024 5:03 PM
Author: Wang Hernandez

What’s so difficult about using boolean search terms?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48167032)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 8:10 AM
Author: Smoker

It’s terrible if you ask it anything that requires judgment. Even simple questions like “is this provision market?” when it’s obviously off market come back terribly wrong. Then if you question it it might say the opposite eventually. It seems to just tell you what it thinks you want to hear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48162046)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 8:46 AM
Author: ,..,,,,,,....,,,...,

Wow that sounds really different from what a human lawyer does.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48162099)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 9:18 AM
Author: wait till biggus dickus hears of this



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48162173)



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Date: October 5th, 2024 2:57 PM
Author: ..,.,,,...,..,,.,...,.,,.,..




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Date: October 5th, 2024 3:48 PM
Author: SpEd with a 3.9 GPA in a TTT major attending Boalt (nof@chicks.com)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48166848)



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Date: October 5th, 2024 3:51 PM
Author: bcs (🍑 Pronouns: Ausländer/Raus döp dödö döp)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48166855)



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Date: October 5th, 2024 3:54 PM
Author: pitbulls eating your face in hell forever tp



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Date: October 5th, 2024 3:59 PM
Author: Kenneth Play



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Date: October 5th, 2024 3:59 PM
Author: Justinian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48166876)



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Date: October 5th, 2024 4:07 PM
Author: t14



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48166903)



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Date: October 5th, 2024 5:03 PM
Author: 180 Missiles



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Date: October 5th, 2024 5:08 PM
Author: piv



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Date: October 5th, 2024 5:15 PM
Author: jon voight



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Date: October 5th, 2024 5:59 PM
Author: ...,....,,........



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Date: October 5th, 2024 4:07 PM
Author: t14



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Date: October 4th, 2024 7:00 AM
Author: Fresh Mango

How do we take advantage of this for our deli stocks? (Delicious stocks)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48161949)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 7:29 AM
Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle

I do this for my fiancee using her pharmacy school letters to generate multiple choice questions to prep for exams

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48161980)



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Date: October 5th, 2024 3:59 PM
Author: Justinian

Works OK, but IME it is not very good at providing the deceptively incorrect bait-answers used to truly test mastery. TBF I didn't experiment much with different prompts to make that better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48166873)



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Date: October 5th, 2024 3:00 PM
Author: t14

I use Lexis AI (their version of GPT) to vet all my leads with weird fact patterns under CA law. I literally just ask "does X have an injury claim?"

Whatever you guys are talking about replacing lawyers already exists lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48166770)



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Date: October 5th, 2024 3:38 PM
Author: When I grow up I want to be a pumo

What should lawyers do about ChatGPT? I use it now for first drafts of demand letters and things like that. How to protect income as super advanced versions roll out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48166829)



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Date: October 5th, 2024 3:50 PM
Author: htt

please tell me Big4 accounting and BigFinance is safe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48166851)



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Date: October 5th, 2024 4:09 PM
Author: Self-serious Macbook Airplane Girl

*how irrelevant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48166906)