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There isn't enough actual work to do = root cause of all societal issues

Technology has advanced such that a critical mass of human l...
khaki queen of the night
  01/26/26
This was true even in the 1920s. HP Lovecraft wrote letters ...
180 magical friendly grandma half-breed
  01/26/26
Maybe so, but the problem was temporarily fixed post-WW2 tha...
khaki queen of the night
  01/26/26
people should just chill and play Indie Horror Games imo.
180 magical friendly grandma half-breed
  01/26/26
Indie Titles provide a reprieve imho
Henna native
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180 magical friendly grandma half-breed
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Fighting Sooty Lay Karate
  01/27/26
yep, also we need mass immigration to do all the jobs americ...
Fiercely-loyal volcanic crater orchestra pit
  01/26/26
all vitality is dissipated into digital activities almost mo...
Dashing Senate Pocket Flask
  01/26/26
I agree. I think this feeling undergirds everything at the m...
khaki queen of the night
  01/26/26
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Dashing Senate Pocket Flask
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Fighting Sooty Lay Karate
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silver crotch
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Fighting Sooty Lay Karate
  01/27/26
It's the lack of Malthusian pressures which is the root caus...
Orchid principal's office
  01/26/26
https://pinebendrefinery.com/pine-bend-mn-oil-refinery/
Cyan locale
  01/26/26
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_Jobs
Shivering contagious fortuitous meteor
  01/26/26
Familiar with Graeber's work. A problem is that even the Bul...
khaki queen of the night
  01/26/26
UBI & everyone lives in hovels & plays MMO all day ...
Brass Coiffed Home Reading Party
  01/26/26
I think a Ready Player One future only works if the debt bub...
khaki queen of the night
  01/26/26
you'd like this substack if you havn't seen it yet https:...
Brass Coiffed Home Reading Party
  01/26/26
I have read him, but found him to be too dismal and way way ...
khaki queen of the night
  01/26/26
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Brass Coiffed Home Reading Party
  01/26/26
Yup. Because the fundamental issue is lack of Malthusian pre...
Orchid principal's office
  01/26/26
We didn't have malthusian pressures in the 90s and we still ...
khaki queen of the night
  01/26/26
No, our current problems have existed for a long time, since...
Orchid principal's office
  01/26/26
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!74sh!,f_auto,q_auto:...
Brass Coiffed Home Reading Party
  01/26/26
Not to be a total faggot, but this is why I said "criti...
khaki queen of the night
  01/26/26
Yeah I know. I respectfully disagree with this. You can trac...
Orchid principal's office
  01/26/26
Appreciate your thoughts ITT. I also lol'd at your user name...
khaki queen of the night
  01/26/26
Wonderful thread
silver crotch
  01/26/26
Plenty of work to do at my place haha lots of firewood to be...
elite bistre jap
  01/26/26
"Nothing is so unsettling to a social order as the pres...
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Date: January 26th, 2026 2:25 PM
Author: khaki queen of the night

Technology has advanced such that a critical mass of human labor has been removed from the economic equation. With high speed internet and smart phone technology being the final nail in the coffin.

People look at Minneapolis and say "wtf is going on here, how can all of these people be doing this shit?" It's because there is simply not enough productive work to go around.

I think on some level the elites know this and use ICE / "Wedge Issue of the Day" to keep people preoccupied and distracted from the deeper issue at hand.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49620760)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 2:26 PM
Author: 180 magical friendly grandma half-breed

This was true even in the 1920s. HP Lovecraft wrote letters to his acquaintances that say the same thing basically.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49620766)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 2:33 PM
Author: khaki queen of the night

Maybe so, but the problem was temporarily fixed post-WW2 thanks to cheap oil and a consumer spending-driven economy that enabled the growth of a huge number of industries that could employ surplus workers (especially women.)

But the combination of technological advancements (IT, automation) and rising cost of material inputs (on a global per capita basis) destroyed all of that.

Elites' solutions have been endless debt issuance coupled with mass distraction events (Covid, Ukraine, now this.)

Optimistically (lol), I think things will actually chill out considerably in time. If for no other reason than populations are shrinking. But it's going to be a painful ride through the bottleneck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49620786)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: 180 magical friendly grandma half-breed

people should just chill and play Indie Horror Games imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49620878)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:08 PM
Author: Henna native

Indie Titles provide a reprieve imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621065)



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Date: January 27th, 2026 8:02 AM
Author: 180 magical friendly grandma half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49622826)



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Date: January 27th, 2026 11:35 AM
Author: Fighting Sooty Lay Karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49623255)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 2:30 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal volcanic crater orchestra pit

yep, also we need mass immigration to do all the jobs americans don't want to do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49620781)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 2:31 PM
Author: Dashing Senate Pocket Flask

all vitality is dissipated into digital activities almost most of it never sees the light of day / or people choose to hide their digital “output”

our vitality / energy is looking for anything to be visible / represented in the real world even if it means getting your bald dome blasted off



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49620783)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 2:34 PM
Author: khaki queen of the night

I agree. I think this feeling undergirds everything at the moment. It is another reason why it often feels like everyone is halfassing their job. We were not meant to live like this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49620789)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 2:37 PM
Author: Dashing Senate Pocket Flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49620798)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:06 PM
Author: Fighting Sooty Lay Karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621058)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:17 PM
Author: Dashing Senate Pocket Flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621101)



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Date: January 27th, 2026 11:35 AM
Author: Fighting Sooty Lay Karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49623254)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:50 PM
Author: silver crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621197)



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Date: January 27th, 2026 11:34 AM
Author: Fighting Sooty Lay Karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49623252)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 2:34 PM
Author: Orchid principal's office

It's the lack of Malthusian pressures which is the root cause of what you're describing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49620790)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:08 PM
Author: Cyan locale

https://pinebendrefinery.com/pine-bend-mn-oil-refinery/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621066)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:11 PM
Author: Shivering contagious fortuitous meteor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_Jobs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621083)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:13 PM
Author: khaki queen of the night

Familiar with Graeber's work. A problem is that even the Bullshit Jobs don't have enough "work" to them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621092)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:14 PM
Author: Brass Coiffed Home Reading Party

UBI & everyone lives in hovels & plays MMO all day

ready player one?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621094)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:21 PM
Author: khaki queen of the night

I think a Ready Player One future only works if the debt bubble continues to be sustainable and if (very real) energy constraints can be solved. Look at what the power demand is for 10 second video creation...now imagine what would be required to run a gigantic Global MMO of any realism.

Best case outcome, IMO, is for the bubble to pop and force the breakup of huge numbers of value-extracting monopolies. A healthier economy is far more local and much smaller. The "Space Communism" types are almost as bad as the Mega Finance Capitalists. (I am speaking in incredible shorthand here, but I know you get the gist.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621113)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:29 PM
Author: Brass Coiffed Home Reading Party

you'd like this substack if you havn't seen it yet

https://thehonestsorcerer.substack.com/archive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621138)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:43 PM
Author: khaki queen of the night

I have read him, but found him to be too dismal and way way way too much of a climate change fag.

I am a much bigger fan of Fabio Vighi and https://ourfiniteworld.com/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621171)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:51 PM
Author: Brass Coiffed Home Reading Party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621198)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:23 PM
Author: Orchid principal's office

Yup. Because the fundamental issue is lack of Malthusian pressures. You can't spin up meaningful "jobs" out of thin air in a world that objectively has no legitimate need for them. See above

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621119)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:25 PM
Author: khaki queen of the night

We didn't have malthusian pressures in the 90s and we still had real economic growth and job creation. Even though many of those jobs were totally removed from Malthusian pressures, they still required actual labor of some kind (and that labor then put its wages back into the economy creating a virtuous circle.)

The difference was we didn't have automation and high speed communication to the degree we do today (and have for the last 15+ years.)

To be clear, I know what you mean and it isn't lost on me. The Power Process was replaced by surrogate activities that at least filled time, but now has been replaced by "entertainment" and endless free time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621127)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:34 PM
Author: Orchid principal's office

No, our current problems have existed for a long time, since well before the 90s. They have just gotten worse since then. We remember the 90s fondly because we were kids. We had none of these kind of concerns because we were children

If we were adults then, we would have all been singing the same tune we are now. Many sophisticated people were at the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621154)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:36 PM
Author: Brass Coiffed Home Reading Party

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621158)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:41 PM
Author: khaki queen of the night

Not to be a total faggot, but this is why I said "critical mass" in the OP. I agree that this issue has been real and developing for decades and decades. But I think we hit a point of no return sometime in the last 5 years or so.

The whole Covid bullshit was a means to try and manage this. Obviously I am not the first to say this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621165)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:58 PM
Author: Orchid principal's office

Yeah I know. I respectfully disagree with this. You can track modern society's set of issues very well with the relaxing of Malthusian pressures over time

https://modernsurvivalblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/percent-of-americans-working-in-agriculture-640x379.jpg

What is the unique about very recent times (21st century) is the explosion of nominal "jobs" that are actively destructive and parasitic. For example, a professional intellectual who worked in, say, Oceanography in 1990 was doing work that was maybe minimally useful to society, but it certainly wasn't actively harmful to it. It's reasonable for society to have people who are experts in fairly low-impact domains

But today, an academic in Oceanography is some fat ugly brown woman who doesn't know anything about oceans, doesn't care about them at all, and is only there to embezzle monopoly money and resources. Their "research" and "work" has nothing to do with ocean science, but is rather oriented toward "how water interacts with black and brown bodies" or something. They're an anti-social hostile actor

In short, it hasn't really been economic change. It's been a change in the actual biological composition of our society. Mostly "achieved" by immigration. Coupled with (anti)-social engineering to put bioleninist political constituents into sinecures

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621249)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 8:26 PM
Author: khaki queen of the night

Appreciate your thoughts ITT. I also lol'd at your user name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621945)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:51 PM
Author: silver crotch

Wonderful thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621201)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: elite bistre jap

Plenty of work to do at my place haha lots of firewood to be chopped

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621209)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 5:02 PM
Author: Frisky university skinny woman

"Nothing is so unsettling to a social order as the presence of a mass of scribes without suitable employment and an acknowledged status." -- Eric Hoffer



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621266)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 7:05 PM
Author: Dashing Senate Pocket Flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621650)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 5:30 PM
Author: odious locus genital piercing



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Date: January 26th, 2026 7:06 PM
Author: Carnelian area

(christopher lasch)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49621654)