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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law...
marvelous milky stage
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
rebellious motley location black woman
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
rebellious motley location black woman
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
trip ruby sex offender piazza
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Dead doctorate associate
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
Magenta home
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
Low-t striped hyena dragon
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
red tantric ticket booth
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
red tantric ticket booth
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
red tantric ticket booth
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
black hyperventilating cuck institution
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
bat-shit-crazy ruddy pisswyrm hissy fit
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
carnelian queen of the night
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
Magenta home
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
marvelous milky stage
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Buff galvanic hall main people
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Curious double fault alpha
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
hairraiser really tough guy messiness
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
marvelous milky stage
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
abnormal chapel police squad
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button
  06/26/25
...
Puce cruise ship shitlib
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
glittery cowardly mother stead
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
razzmatazz rehab
  06/26/25
...
Smoky disturbing school
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
mildly autistic jew kitchen
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Lascivious base
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Tripping sanctuary telephone
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Lascivious base
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
Magenta home
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
Low-t striped hyena dragon
  06/27/25
...
Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Swashbuckling Property Immigrant
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Lascivious base
  06/27/25
...
Naked Deranged Native
  06/27/25
...
Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Tripping sanctuary telephone
  06/27/25
How is STB?
Low-t striped hyena dragon
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Aquamarine state
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
Magenta home
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
glittery cowardly mother stead
  06/27/25
...
Frozen multi-billionaire
  06/27/25
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Magenta home
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: marvelous milky stage

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: rebellious motley location black woman

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: rebellious motley location black woman

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: trip ruby sex offender piazza

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Dead doctorate associate

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Magenta home

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: Low-t striped hyena dragon

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: red tantric ticket booth

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: red tantric ticket booth

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: red tantric ticket booth

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: black hyperventilating cuck institution

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy ruddy pisswyrm hissy fit

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: carnelian queen of the night

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: Magenta home

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: marvelous milky stage

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Buff galvanic hall main people

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Curious double fault alpha

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: hairraiser really tough guy messiness

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: marvelous milky stage

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: abnormal chapel police squad

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Puce cruise ship shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: glittery cowardly mother stead

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: razzmatazz rehab

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Smoky disturbing school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: mildly autistic jew kitchen

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Lascivious base

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Tripping sanctuary telephone

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Lascivious base

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Magenta home

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Low-t striped hyena dragon

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Property Immigrant

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Lascivious base

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Naked Deranged Native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Multi-colored wagecucks factory reset button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Tripping sanctuary telephone

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Low-t striped hyena dragon

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Aquamarine state

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Magenta home

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: glittery cowardly mother stead

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Frozen multi-billionaire



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Magenta home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49053817)