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Fun Talmud Hypo: Found $100 Bill On Shabbos; OK To Kick It Home? (Link)
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 8:50 AM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., Shabbos and Yom Tov #41 Found Money Rabbi Meir Orlian Wed Mar 18 2026 Based on the writings of Rav Chaim Kohn, שליט''א Based on the writings of Harav Chaim Kohn, shlita
Q
While taking a Shabbos walk, I encountered a $100 bill. Am I allowed to possess it?
There is an issue of muktzeh and — if no eruv
— an issue of carrying. Although Chazal provided certain leniencies regarding the prospective loss of one’s wallet, the leniencies are not applicable to money that is found, since it is not yours yet (O.C. 266:13).
Thus, you may not pick up the $100 bill, even if there is an eruv, because of muktzeh (Mishnah Berurah 266:38). However, according to many Acharonim, you can kick it aside with your foot to a secure place if there is an eruv (Shemiras Shabbos K’Hilchasah 22:36).
There is a dispute between the Acharonim as to whether you may tell a non-Jew to pick up the bill for you, despite its being muktzeh. However, while you may not tell him to carry it if there is no eruv, if he chooses to bring it to your house of his own accord, you do not have to stop him (Mishnah Ber-urah, ibid.).
Nonetheless, if you found a valuable item that is not muktzeh and there is an eruv, you may possess it and take it home. It is not considered a transac-tion, because there is no seller or giver. However, you should not raise it in a manner that blatantly indicates acquisition (Shemiras Shabbos K’Hilcha-sah 29:32[89]).
https://businesshalacha.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/business_weekly/item_946_en_BW_792.pdf |
Date: March 23rd, 2026 11:37 AM Author: Buses 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49762232) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 11:57 AM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (🇺🇸 🇵🇱) Why can't you just ask a shabbos goyim to pick it up for you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49762305) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 11:59 AM Author: tancredi marchiolo can u read (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49762309) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:25 PM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (🇺🇸 🇵🇱) Yes you fucking moron. The hypo does not mention asking a shabbos goyim, just "someone"
Shabbos goyim are how you pricks trick God |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:20 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., poor rc? it literally says "non-Jew" which is a shabbos goy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49762633) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 11:59 AM Author: Consuela is there a difference based on the monetary amount? why is this hypo $100 and not $1 or even one penny? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49762310) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:22 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., cq. the answer ues the phrase "if you found a valuable item ..."
there is something in halacha about avoiding significant financial losses, but it's not clear how to apply this here... or whether a $5 or a $20 might be a valuable item. |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:01 PM Author: TurboGook-16 ((zurich is stained)) why did jews invent all these retarded ass rules just to figure out loopholes? and why do you people still "follow" these rules in the modern era? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49762313) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:08 PM Author: tancredi marchiolo ur dad taught u to hit a baseball so one day you could hunt
same concept but jews are hunting goyim and their assets |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:23 PM Author: Consuela (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49762428) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:22 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49762637) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:26 PM Author: Buses i dont even understand the last sentence. it seems to indicate you should not hold the pilfered goods high like a trophy but should instead cloak them in your black suits (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49762443) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:26 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., it's talking about the western law equivalent of a claim of right and taking formal ownership. remember the shit in 1L properly law about taking ownership and making a claim against the world? its kind of the same thing.
in jewish law, you acquire something through an action asserting ownership. but you can't take formal ownership on shabbos. so it's giving a loophole so you can kinda take custody of the item without really taking formal ownership. |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:34 PM Author: Buses so you cna find a diamond ring (not a $100 bill) (and as long as there is dental floss in teh sky), take it home and then claim ownership over it at sunset? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49762670) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:35 PM Author: Consuela dental floss in the sky tp lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49762671) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:45 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., depends on whether the diamond ring is considered mukzeh.
mukzeh means something that has no shabbos purpose. you're not allowed to touch mukzeh, which is an item that has no shabbos purpose.
a $100 bill is mukzeh since it has no shabbos purpose.
a diamond ring that's wearable might not be mukzeh since women wear jewelry on shabbos.
but if you found a raw 5ct diamond, it's mukzeh. |