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rating poasters as bizarre classical music from the 20th/21st centuries

mostly solo piano.
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/17/26
requesting Chopin pls
Canary maniacal messiness double fault
  01/17/26
Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to ...
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/17/26
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charismatic up-to-no-good filthpig
  01/17/26
The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli --...
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/17/26
wild, ty!
charismatic up-to-no-good filthpig
  01/17/26
There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: yo...
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/17/26
...
Odious gaping
  01/17/26
that kind of music generally sucks, but content
Comical umber cruise ship black woman
  01/17/26
Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical f...
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/17/26
180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the u...
Comical umber cruise ship black woman
  01/17/26
The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style...
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/17/26
but content tp
aggressive circlehead lodge
  01/17/26
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Racy indirect expression theater stage
  01/17/26
Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering...
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/17/26
Jcm here
Iridescent telephone shitlib
  01/17/26
Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtu...
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/17/26
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Odious gaping
  01/17/26
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fear-inspiring principal's office immigrant
  01/17/26
Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and o...
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/17/26
this is completely preposterous
Odious gaping
  01/17/26
...
fear-inspiring principal's office immigrant
  01/17/26
I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/17/26
lmao
Odious gaping
  01/17/26
And the composer too. Almost forgot.
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/17/26
...
Odious gaping
  01/17/26
This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out ...
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/18/26
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Soul-stirring legend windowlicker
  01/17/26
Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: http...
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/17/26
Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant
Soul-stirring legend windowlicker
  01/17/26
Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit...
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/17/26
I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt p...
Odious gaping
  01/17/26
I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's ...
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/17/26
180 thank you you used the phrase "obviously a cynical...
Odious gaping
  01/17/26
No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some ...
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/17/26
can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano y...
Odious gaping
  01/17/26
Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so ...
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/17/26
link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never...
Odious gaping
  01/17/26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/17/26
ty
Odious gaping
  01/17/26
Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings o...
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/17/26
Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/17/26
...
Provocative business firm roast beef
  01/17/26
"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahash...
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/17/26
...
Buff alcoholic hissy fit hall
  01/17/26
is this a compliment? are we friends?
Provocative business firm roast beef
  01/17/26
This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/17/26
I love you so much
Provocative business firm roast beef
  01/17/26
...
Buff alcoholic hissy fit hall
  01/17/26
Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beeth...
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/17/26
...
Cyan center
  01/17/26
I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think...
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/18/26
do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth interesting te...
charismatic up-to-no-good filthpig
  01/17/26
I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this partic...
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/17/26
understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is fr...
charismatic up-to-no-good filthpig
  01/17/26
Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one ...
bipolar underhanded stage reading party
  01/18/26
...
charismatic up-to-no-good filthpig
  01/18/26


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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:20 AM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

mostly solo piano.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596192)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:23 AM
Author: Canary maniacal messiness double fault

requesting Chopin pls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596197)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:27 AM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to an early 20th-century reintepretation of Chopin's etudes by Godowsky. Not particularly bizarre, just difficult to perform. Apologies in advance for any disappointment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuEa1XLEVSw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596202)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:24 AM
Author: charismatic up-to-no-good filthpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596198)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:29 AM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli -- to be performed with rage per the composer's instructions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_dn3ORLq6s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596206)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: charismatic up-to-no-good filthpig

wild, ty!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596339)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:37 PM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: you either love it or violently hate it and think it's just noise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596419)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: Odious gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596874)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: Comical umber cruise ship black woman

that kind of music generally sucks, but content

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596394)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan, but that's true of most composers with a similar style. Personally I can't stand any of his music. Enjoy! Just look at how pretentious the piece's title is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYMXbM0RCeU



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596404)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:45 PM
Author: Comical umber cruise ship black woman

180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the unreadble notation and beyond pretentious title push it over the top

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49597223)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style is taken to the point where I could create the same semi-random but pointlessly complex music despite me having no talent as a composer. That's why you can't take Ferneyhough or similar composers seriously. But they do want you to take them seriously. After all, Ferneyhough made it all the way to Stanford with this gibberish "music."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49597685)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: aggressive circlehead lodge

but content tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49597001)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:41 PM
Author: Racy indirect expression theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596425)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering Sorabji's typically serious style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFZYqLqBHOc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596437)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: Iridescent telephone shitlib

Jcm here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596525)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:18 PM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aR0naIp9eM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596530)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: Odious gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596884)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:20 PM
Author: fear-inspiring principal's office immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596538)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:55 PM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and one foot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyy3CRuMQnc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596865)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: Odious gaping

this is completely preposterous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596919)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:41 PM
Author: fear-inspiring principal's office immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596958)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:47 PM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596979)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: Odious gaping

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596985)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

And the composer too. Almost forgot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596999)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:48 PM
Author: Odious gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49597089)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 9:19 AM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out his "Innocent Prisoner" for piano and voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LIw8ykSmGU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49598324)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: Soul-stirring legend windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596869)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKfFaSWr4m0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596870)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: Soul-stirring legend windowlicker

Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596948)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit of dissonance and complexity without devolving into randomness. Actually it goes too far, but there's much worse out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596986)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:05 PM
Author: Odious gaping

I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt performance of John Cage's As Slow As Possible. Rate me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_as_Possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596877)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's his "Phrygian Gates": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DixKnE9HqIU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596883)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: Odious gaping

180 thank you

you used the phrase "obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan" above and that is how I view Cage but others may disagree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596891)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:16 PM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some of his music is actually enjoyable. For instance, his pieces for prepared piano.

Ferneyhough, the fraud and charlatan, is just SPS with no redeeming qualities. It's just unnecessary complexity and near-randomness that ordinary people laugh at (and should).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596904)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: Odious gaping

can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano you enjoyed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596915)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:34 PM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so I don't remember specific pieces. The interesting ones had minimalist aspects IIRC. The problem with the recordings is the piano preparation and resultant sound varies wildly with each recording. So some recordings sound dull while others are more lively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596940)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:36 PM
Author: Odious gaping

link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never been able to enjoy anything by Cage but I'm open to reassessing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596945)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:40 PM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596952)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: Odious gaping

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596984)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:52 PM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings of Cage's works were my favorite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596991)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596993)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: Provocative business firm roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596950)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:48 PM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahashi's recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbUgAXt75s8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49596980)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: Buff alcoholic hissy fit hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49597105)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:25 PM
Author: Provocative business firm roast beef

is this a compliment? are we friends?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49597348)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49597403)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: Provocative business firm roast beef

I love you so much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49597475)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: Buff alcoholic hissy fit hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49597104)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:02 PM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beethoven's last piano sonata, for mechanical piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gyJkYWdWWo (gets interesting after about 8-10 minutes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49597137)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:00 PM
Author: Cyan center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49597425)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think of anything more appropriate than Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 6 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Y1bZYi60M

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49598298)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:10 PM
Author: charismatic up-to-no-good filthpig

do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth

interesting technique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYtybgToH2Q&t=28s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49597568)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:43 PM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this particular piece. Classical music snobs would probably thumb their noses at this piece, but the snobs can be ignored. All that matters is whether you like it.

The technique of modifying the sound of the piano by interacting with the strings themselves is not new. Henry Cowell first explored this around 100 or so years ago. John Cage took the idea further in his pieces for prepared piano, which I mentioned earlier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49597648)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: charismatic up-to-no-good filthpig

understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is from cage - i like this a lot more than him though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49597813)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:54 AM
Author: bipolar underhanded stage reading party

Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one of Cage's teachers, if I remember correctly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49598296)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 10:26 AM
Author: charismatic up-to-no-good filthpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49598425)