I always want wondered where do these guys jerk off? If you are wanking when the lights go down do they like come over and tell you to stfu or what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49062162)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49062150)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49062161)

Anyway he got the search warrant for that hour and he got the suspect's phone pinging. It was an armed robbery of some guy selling Jordan's on Instagram. It was an inside job somebody knew the guy and where he'd be and shit. Buddy sold him out and these guys busted down the door and stole all his sneakers. The suspects almost got away but this dude got picked up on a weed charge a few weeks later and the whole case unraveled.

My buddy said husband favorite part of the job is confronting them with the evidence in the interrogation room. He told the guy we got so much evidence on you we don't even need the confession. The guy said "Go fuck yourself" and my buddy said "No thanks" and walked away. He said he was grinning ear to ear for the rest of the day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49062212)

Ur buddy needs to work on his CSI one liner comebacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49062957)

You really want the family to have to sit through the prosecutor explaining that their daughters guts were hanging from the ceiling fan (a rumored fact of the case)?

And then for 20 years some extremely well funded morbidly obese Jewess lawyers show up argue against death because it's MORALLY WRONG FOR THE STATE TO KILL while draining local resources?

This plea is a no brainer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49062216)

It’s the most gruesome murders in Idaho history and people need vengeance. Huge mistake by the state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49062223)

The state is just lazy as fuck that’s why this happened. It’s a travesty of justice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49062228)

BTW in state court for criminal cases a plea is almost always offered. And it's always to save money. The whole system runs on saving money. Always has.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49062249)

They got the guy, he's never going to have the opportunity to do this again, now they can spend the money they would have spent on a high profile trial and inevitable death penalty appellate litigation on prosecuting other cases

leaving aside the morality of the death penalty this is clearly a good result

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49062573)

executing him within 15 years is not realistic. the sufficiency of the evidence has no bearing on anything. you think executions are scheduled based on how certain the guy is guilty?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49062857)

their guts were hanging from the ceiling fan. its deeply wrong to do an economic calculation in an era of such incredible waste and conclude that this is the smart penny pinching to do.

this plea is pure cowardice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49062867)

"and then 15 years from now execute him. thats the best outcome. its also realistic. the evidence is overwhelming."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49062901)

which suggests that there are lesser outcomes that could happen like a NG which would never in a million years happen.

this isnt the "best outcome" that could reasonably be expected. thats the DP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49062907)

regardless, i just poasted the list of idaho death row inmates and last execution as evidence 15 years is not a realistic expection. so putting you evidence comment aside, given that information, why would think this guy would be executed quicker than the others who were convicted of crimes just as heinous and have been on death row for 40 years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49062931)

the state must take a moral stand against these types of crimes. that the process has been corrupted by shitlibs is not a reason to throw in the towel.

do you agree that the state should be putting people to death for some murders, or are you opposed to the death penalty?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49062940)

fine, go join a death penalty advocacy group. right now you're just maf that the system is the way it is because of the Current Thing. will you still be maf tomorrow and actually working towards the change you want?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49062965)

that said, i'll happily concede that this is the sort of guy you have a death penalty for and he's a sick fuck who should die, i just don't think the state should make that determination absent the case i mentioned above. but it has nothing to do with sympathy for the given criminal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49063100)

its not "better" for the state to plea to save some money when a defendant deserves death. its "better" to put him to death.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49062925)

there aren't a lot of aggrevating circumstances here and a death penalty sentence isn't even a slam dunk. the guy has no criminal history. there is certainly a lot to work with on appeal. a random murderer with no history isn't usually the type of person that gets the dp let alone fast tracked.

this is just dead cute white girl syndrome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49062956)

tons of peanut butter. tons of pork. they serve fish, but never on a friday.

seems like a good menu, but designed by a troll.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49063372)

Trial is probably 10% chance not guilty and 15% chance mistrial (where he would get a better plea after). Even assuming guilty verdict, there's a big chance he doesn't get DP (conservative Christians who believe in forgiveness, he has mental issues etc.). Even if he gets DP, there's a big chance he gets it reduced on appeal or strings out appeals for a few decades before he gets murdered or killself. So you are risking a not guilty with about the same probability as a DP being ultimately carried out, and most likely outcome is the same as he gets now (dies in prison).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49063113)

but the most probable answer is risk adversion. it's easy for us to say it's statistically better to roll the dice. now imagine you're a layman actually facing death.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49063249)

this is why the death penalty is important

the people who believe it is not a deterrent are wrong

but even if they are right

which they aren't

look at what it accomplished here. it removed any hope of kohberger lucking out because he was afraid of it. without the death penalty, this is a guaranteed trial

anyone who has had more than a couple jury trials, or has any common sense or erudition, understands that juries can act in really fucking irrational ways

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49067991)

Do I have that right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49075815)

"and given this is all the death penalty can be used for at this point in our ttt country, this alone still makes it better to have it than not have it"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#49076273)