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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:09 PM Author: dull rough-skinned mad-dog skullcap generalized bond 1. "And we're going to annex Greenland!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908071) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:58 PM Author: cerise fat ankles keepsake machete Mostly serious, although I think the play here in ultimately Greenlands independence, which we'll move in on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908254) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 2:34 PM Author: dun becky stag film nature abhors a vacuum, so with Denmark just mailing in their colonial duty I’d say he’s dead serious and 85% we get at least major control over that land by end of his term (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908603) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 3:57 PM Author: Know-it-all curious base gunner troll
you should post the clip when you quote him tho because he never said this and you got hoaxed and are spreading lies. |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 4:09 PM Author: dun becky stag film he recently said we’re not gonna go the military route with Canada but for Greenland everything is on the table (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908902) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:11 PM Author: Know-it-all curious base gunner so it was a lie when Marc quoted "And we're going to annex Greenland!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48909639) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 4:20 PM Author: spruce depressive abode Serious and itll be some sort of independence/protectorate in the vein of marshall islands. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908955) |
Date: May 6th, 2025 12:10 PM Author: dull rough-skinned mad-dog skullcap generalized bond 2. "And we're going to send are worst and most evil Criminals to a re-opened Alcatraz!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908074) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:59 PM Author: cerise fat ankles keepsake machete I don't think this is serious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908255) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 2:35 PM Author: dun becky stag film I think he’s serious and I love the idea in theory, but logistically it will take too long and will peter out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908606) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 3:57 PM Author: Know-it-all curious base gunner troll (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908857) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 4:20 PM Author: spruce depressive abode Not serious. This is art
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:11 PM Author: dull rough-skinned mad-dog skullcap generalized bond 3. "And Movies not made in the USA will pay a 100% Tariff!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908080) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:59 PM Author: cerise fat ankles keepsake machete Serious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908256) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 1:02 PM Author: dull rough-skinned mad-dog skullcap generalized bond Do you suppose that Trump envisions "movies" are imported in shipping containers carrying a bunch of reels of film? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908259) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 1:10 PM Author: cerise fat ankles keepsake machete I think he knows the entertainment business pretty well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908287) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 3:00 PM Author: cerise fat ankles keepsake machete https://deadline.com/2025/05/jon-voight-hollywood-plan-read-in-full-trump-tariffs-1236387042/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908702) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 3:48 PM Author: Mint Sound Barrier Crotch 86 year old tells 78 year old how to fix the future of entertainment
This would most likely provide short term benefit for LA/California though |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 3:52 PM Author: cerise fat ankles keepsake machete AI is going to rape them beyond that timeframe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908842) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 2:36 PM Author: dun becky stag film serious, but he should frame it differently. “any movie taking Chinese or adversary money must pay 200% tariff on that amount” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908615) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 3:57 PM Author: Know-it-all curious base gunner serious and/or used as negotiating tactic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908859) |
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Date: May 7th, 2025 3:40 PM Author: dull rough-skinned mad-dog skullcap generalized bond To force are best movie studios to make a series of hagiographic Drumpf movies? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48911522) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 4:21 PM Author: spruce depressive abode Negotiation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908959) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:13 PM Author: Orange toilet seat i vote that it's hilarious that libs keep falling for reacting to his bullshit whether it's sincere or trolling. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908084) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:16 PM Author: dull rough-skinned mad-dog skullcap generalized bond Which of these ^^^ are sincere and which are trolling? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908094) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:19 PM Author: soul-stirring pit dog poop Bro, this is some serious TDS you are displaying. Politics should not be a replacement for religion. I suggest focusing on a Higher Power, whatever you conceive that to be. This obsession cannot be healthy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908108) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:22 PM Author: dull rough-skinned mad-dog skullcap generalized bond It's just "reading the news" and being VERY interested in politics man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908117) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:44 PM Author: soul-stirring pit dog poop Politics is actually manifesting as stress inside your body. None of this is changing anything. You aren't changing anyone's minds, just like Trumpmos aren't changing your mind. Go live your life. You are in Hawaii for fuck's sake.
I've been on both sides of the spectrum. I was born into a far right family, went far left in college, and now I'm firmly in the center.
Don't take this the wrong way, but someone like you on the far left, who parrots the party line is just as bad as your mirror image on the right.
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:53 PM Author: dull rough-skinned mad-dog skullcap generalized bond Clowning on Trump and Trumpmos is not a stress it's a hobby (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908232) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 2:29 PM Author: soul-stirring pit dog poop You are seething inside, brother. Stop lying to yourself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908579) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 2:32 PM Author: slate stage sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908593) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:21 PM Author: Amber deer antler library it's not a hobby it's a lifestyle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48909663) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:22 PM Author: Orange toilet seat no clue. at times trump smirks in a way you can tell he knows what he's doing. at times he seems like a buffoon. we'll never be able to get inside trump's head to know for sure for each thing. so being that the true answer is unknowable, perhaps you should ask yourself why you're still getting triggered by this 10 years into trump being a serious political contender. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908116) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:29 PM Author: dull rough-skinned mad-dog skullcap generalized bond So we can only tell whether he was trolling or sincere is if we look at it post hoc? So when his retarded ideas fail spectacularly or are never pursued, we can just say "lol, he was joking!" This is a great failsafe approach. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908145) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:32 PM Author: Glittery Violent Box Office Community Account (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908161) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:42 PM Author: Orange toilet seat i'm saying we can't tell whether they are trolling or sincere period. but i do know two things:
(1) trump had managed to stay in the spotlight for 50 years despite just being a property developer and has gone onto creating the most significant political movement of our lives that has resulted in a completely realignment of the two parties almost purely because of spectacle
(2) trump done and said some startling stupid things which can't be dismissed as "just kidding!"
people that think he's a just mr. magoo and just fumbled and tripped into this situation are stupid. and people that think he's a god emperor always playing 8-d chess are stupid.
whether intentional or not, trump now has you exasperated over reopening alcatraz, which we both know is not going to happen. and whatever happened to the maryland dad or all the other deportees? old news, right? i have no idea if trump generates these spectacular distractions on purpose, but they often do highlight real issues (e.g. foreign gangs didn't take over a whole town, just a couple apartment complexes, FOUR PINNOCHIOS). i think it's a bit arrogant for you to be dismissive of a guy that has done what trump has done politically as being 100% retarded. |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:51 PM Author: dull rough-skinned mad-dog skullcap generalized bond "trump now has you exasperated" This is like saying I'm "exasperated" at RT and ZZZ for suing me. Lolling at a retard's retarded ideas =/= "exasperated"
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:56 PM Author: Orange toilet seat i believe you. but i also believe that even glibly detached libs just styling on trumpmos gives trump power. and those with TDS that are sincerely exasperated by this shit even moreso.
whether trump is a genius or an idiot savant, this is just a small example of how he manages to create spectacles that benefit him. |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:18 PM Author: Ivory Electric Selfie Greenland probably is actually in play and makes sense. Tariffs is illegal immigration v2.xlsb. we don't have or need a wall for the entire border but libs open borders crap is now a top 3 issue for nearly everyone. same thing is happening with trade and getting people to finally notice that it's fucked up that everything we buy is made by chinks. like how it's fucked up how our immigration "laws" basically let people stay here in perpetuity and shit out kids who automatically become citizens. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908104) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:58 PM Author: dull rough-skinned mad-dog skullcap generalized bond ty smart (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908251) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 1:03 PM Author: cerise fat ankles keepsake machete Tarrifs from what I've read from people working on the initiative, are an attempt to encircle China. That's why you saw Trump hitting out at nations typically allies. Put up the issue and get it resolved with each partner, and slowly isolate China. It's pretty consistent with the plan starting back with Obama. Some of these pass-through allies are fucked like Vietnam. But China is going to run out of places to dump goods. EU is already pushing back on the Chinese. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908263) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 1:27 PM Author: Painfully Honest Razzle-dazzle Resort EPAH is too dumb and obtuse to understand this (and is rooting for China anyway). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908353) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:22 PM Author: Supple Trump Supporter Bbw who is "trump"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908118) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:29 PM Author: dull rough-skinned mad-dog skullcap generalized bond He's an orange retard also known as "Drumpf" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908148) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:31 PM Author: Trip submissive field 4. We're going to annex Canada (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908153) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:52 PM Author: dull rough-skinned mad-dog skullcap generalized bond I think this one's trolling, but gunnerattt says we have to wait and see. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908228) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 1:04 PM Author: Orange toilet seat not what i said! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908264) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 1:06 PM Author: dull rough-skinned mad-dog skullcap generalized bond Now you're just exasperated at my mode of argumentation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908269) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 1:10 PM Author: Orange toilet seat i have EPAH derangement syndrome (because i want to fuck you).
i think the truest answer is that trump "knows what he's doing" in that if he says a bunch of provocative shit some of it will stick, and the ones that turn out to be embarrassing blunders are a worthwhile cost. in that way he really is trolling in an obeezy/voodoo child way in that he knows he'll get a (100) thread because if he says enough wild shit some of it will generate engagement. while i wouldn't call that low-effort trolling "smart", it is effective and there is a certain method to the madness. |
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Date: May 7th, 2025 8:00 AM Author: Narrow-minded range He clearly doesn't always know what he's doing as we saw with the tariff debacle, which was by far the most radical change he's tried to implement across either term. He genuinely believed it was the correct plan of attack until the market/bond market reacted in the way they obviously would, at which point he scrambled into face-saving mode.
There were many people who thought the tariff stuff was "just trolling" too, like pretty much all of his techbro allies. |
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Date: May 7th, 2025 9:31 AM Author: Orange toilet seat the quickness with which he walked it back supports what i'm saying about just throwing stuff at the wall though. i agree it was sincere, but his convictions are so loose that he sincerely believes different things day to day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48910535) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 1:06 PM Author: cerise fat ankles keepsake machete Troll. He apparently hated the conservative running in Canada and felt like he'd be much harder to work with. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908270) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 1:07 PM Author: Ivory Electric Selfie not serious. pointing out that Canadians are weird cuck faggots with a major immigration problem is the real play. same with Mexico being a corrupt cartel run shithole despite being a huge country that shares a border with us. we all should be on the same team and not have wannabe eurofag cucks north and criminal third world shithole beaners to the south.
the "West" should be USA/Canada/Mexico and Europe should deal with their own bullshit for a change. |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 2:38 PM Author: dun becky stag film is a nice to have but not a necessity
we’ll see what their position is once trade is readjusted and they have the economy of Slovakia without the hot chicks |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 3:58 PM Author: Know-it-all curious base gunner was never claimed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908861) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 4:23 PM Author: spruce depressive abode Flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908973) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 1:04 PM Author: dull rough-skinned mad-dog skullcap generalized bond 5. "We'll buy Gaza and build a big and Beautiful resort!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908267) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 1:06 PM Author: cerise fat ankles keepsake machete 100% serious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908273) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 1:06 PM Author: Chestnut Irate Hell Not serious, but it is a cover for a more ordinary forever occupation by Israel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908274) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 1:09 PM Author: cerise fat ankles keepsake machete I think he would actually do this, but you are correct the real play is to shake things up and get shit moving. The timeframe wouldn't even work during his admin. I did see a poll just today that had an increasing number of Muslims in America starting to back Trump's plan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908285) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 1:08 PM Author: Ivory Electric Selfie good idea but probably won't happen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908282) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 2:38 PM Author: dun becky stag film Israel is going to annex 75% of it for us (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908631) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 3:58 PM Author: Know-it-all curious base gunner Troll thrown out as an idea but never really serious. I think the Jews will ethnically cleanse Gaza tho. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908865) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 4:23 PM Author: spruce depressive abode Negotiation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908978) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 1:36 PM Author: dull rough-skinned mad-dog skullcap generalized bond 6. “I forced the Houthis into a great Deal today!” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908398) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 2:39 PM Author: dun becky stag film he’s probably just going to let Israel do our dirty work after that ballistic missile attack on DBG airport (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908634) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 3:59 PM Author: Know-it-all curious base gunner Serious. Houthis are begging to mercy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908868) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 2:24 PM Author: slate stage sweet tailpipe To be fair,
Answer (re all of the above):
If they work out, he was serious.
If they don't work out, he was trolling.
u mad? |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 4:22 PM Author: frozen buff indian lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908969) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 2:36 PM Author: Supple Trump Supporter Bbw Both the right and the left are embodiments of Protestant excess. On the left, it's a worship of sin. On the right, it's snake oil salvation sales. Truly a contemptuous religion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908612) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 2:38 PM Author: Glittery Violent Box Office Community Account (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908625) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 2:39 PM Author: slate stage sweet tailpipe To be fair,
In This Subthread: A mentally-ill schizo Jew who hates Drumpfth condemns Christianity on retarded grounds, and a "Hurr Durrrr Thoughtful Moderate" shitlib retard happily amplifies this stupid kiked-out analysis.
Wow!
lol |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 3:10 PM Author: Glittery Violent Box Office Community Account Hey, I'm just here to bash Trump and Protestantism! I thought this thread did a fine job of exposing the MAGA-right. Snake-oil salesman and entertainer sounds about right to me! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908733) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: Supple Trump Supporter Bbw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48909678) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 2:39 PM Author: Orange toilet seat meeting of the minds here is lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908633) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 2:40 PM Author: slate stage sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908637) |
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Date: May 7th, 2025 8:31 AM Author: Laughsome Home Evangelical excess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48910450) |
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Date: May 7th, 2025 10:05 AM Author: Supple Trump Supporter Bbw All Protestantism is inherently unstable and prone to excess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48910600) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 3:01 PM Author: diverse knife garrison he's just joking around! reminds me of how huffington post made a big deal of covering the first Trump campaign as entertainment rather than politics. a fun time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48908707) |
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Date: May 7th, 2025 3:38 PM Author: dull rough-skinned mad-dog skullcap generalized bond 7. “And I will end the war in Ukraine on Day 1!” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48911520) |
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Date: May 7th, 2025 3:58 PM Author: frozen buff indian lodge It's a serious idea. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48911550) |
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Date: May 7th, 2025 4:39 PM Author: Glittery Violent Box Office Community Account this could work as a game show. epah the host. A bunch of dumb violent MAGA's as contestants. The contestants fight over whether the trump statement is serious, a joke, or "a negotiation". A "maga-nation poll" decides what the statement is and then the camera zooms into the MAGA contestants' reactions. A lot of the fun will be seeing them twisting themselves into knots to give meaning to the President's gibberish. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48911639) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 1:19 PM Author: dull rough-skinned mad-dog skullcap generalized bond Expert level:
8. "Mattel is the only country that went counter. Let him go, and we'll put a 100% tariff on his toys."
https://x.com/Acyn/status/1920505479543075300 |
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Date: May 23rd, 2025 1:20 PM Author: ''""'''""''""'' 9. "And we will put a 25% Tariff on Apple unless they Build Beautiful iPhones in the USA!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721075&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310486#48956430) |