Alex Murdaugh will be acquitted.
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Date: March 1st, 2023 11:26 PM Author: bright hospital
Date: March 1st, 2023 12:22 AM
Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±)
I was on the fence between a hung jury and an acquittal, but I think after today's cross of the former law partner, there's a really good chance of an acquittal. I'm also assuming closing arguments will drive home all of the important points.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5298947&forum_id=2#45995536)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5298947&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684",#45999695) |
Date: March 1st, 2023 12:56 AM Author: Painfully Honest Cordovan Trump Supporter
apparently analysis shows that the gun was fired by someone of a height of 5'2"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5298947&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684",#45995588)
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Date: March 1st, 2023 9:51 AM Author: Misunderstood wrinkle
I want him to get acquitted just so everyone can see how fraudulent the system is down there.
His dad was suspected of jury tampering back in the 80s, so I'm sure he's capable of fixing a jury himself.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5298947&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684",#45996130) |
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Date: March 1st, 2023 4:37 PM Author: Vigorous legend
It's a jury, so nothing will surprise me. I'm not on the jury and I don't know everything they've heard and seen over the past 6 weeks. There's a reason the prosecutor kept hammering that photo of Paul with half his head gone and his brain leaking out. That might be something the jury can't get over, but then again, the defense did a great job portraying Alex as someone who couldn't even conceive of doing something so heinous. Then there's the whole boat crash situation and the fact that people genuinely wanted Alex dead.
There's a lot to mull over, but I think the jury will be charged tomorrow. If they return a verdict within two hours, it will be an acquittal. Beyond that, we venture into the unknown. Depending on whether they ask questions (and what questions they ask), the longer it goes on, the closer it gets to a hung jury.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5298947&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684",#45997937) |
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Date: March 1st, 2023 11:52 PM Author: galvanic dark dragon
I disagree completely with your assessment and find it flawed, and I'm emboldened in my belief in conviction.
Think of criminal trials as having two novels, one for the prosecution and one for defense. And as witnesses testify and evidence is presented, it's like chapters in those novels. There are two stories, but there's only one story being told at the end, and the jury has to figure out which novel the chapters (evidence, testimony) fit into.
Now on the one hand you have the prosecution theory. He was addicted to drugs (check), his son called him on his bs (check), he was stealing millions from his partners (check), pretty well confirmed shitty, immoral person (check), at the scene of the crime (check), dude seemed evil, was having a downward spiral, amoral and willing to do anything, one of his guns was used, his alibi was shaky, he lied to investigators (check checked check check).
The defense job is to poke holes in this theory more than it is to provide a complete alternate sorry. But, they didn't really poke many holes in it. In fact, pretty much all of the chapters of the book add up to the prosecution theory. If you look at all the evidence as the jury will you will find a narrative that adds up to the story the prosecution is telling. An innocent man will have an easier time with his lawyers saying, well wait a minute, it didn't exactly happen like that. But, it did. The circumstantial evidence is significant here. And, unfortunately for the defense, all the chapters of evidence for into their novel.
Now, seeing as the defense has largely failed to tear down the prosecution theory, they are attempting to tell their own story. Now, they don't have zero chapters in their book, but it's a lot flimsier. "People want him dead" is vague. What people? There's no alternative suspect. "He covered for his son in a boat accident." Ok, who cares? "They never found a murder weapon. Two guns were used." Ok, maybe this could possibly sway a juror or two. It's not impossible. But, do the chapters really add up to prove the defense theory? I don't think so. This case has the feeling of maybe 10 chapters being in the prosecution theory and maybe 1 or 2 in the defense's. Overall, the prosecution is telling a very compelling story, and the defense is grasping at strings. It's impossible to know the outcome but strongly lean conviction.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5298947&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684",#45999831) |
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Date: March 2nd, 2023 12:31 AM Author: Vigorous legend
>one of his guns was used
Link? to my knowledge, no murder weapon was found. If you're referring to him owning a 300 BLK which was used to kill Maggie, well, the guy owned a LOT of guns.
>Overall, the prosecution is telling a very compelling story, and the defense is grasping at strings. It's impossible to know the outcome but strongly lean conviction.
I agree that he did it. I 100% believe he did it. But, and I readily acknowledge not having all the info the jury has, I don't know if they can really find him guilty of double homicide with the facts as they exist. Was there GSR found on him at the time of the murders? I suppose they claim he changed clothing. I know that the defense expert said that the shot that opened Paul's head for the world to see would have caused so much biological matter to explode out that shards of skull would embed in the shooter's body. Not sure I really buy it, but it was expert testimony.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5298947&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684",#45999969) |
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Date: March 2nd, 2023 12:53 AM Author: galvanic dark dragon
While you do point holes in the prosecution's case, they are ultimately flimsy. I just read an NYT article extremely pro conviction from the point of view of the prosecution. Say what you want an that liberal rag but it was a good article. It really nailed it for me.
You are right that there is some exculpatory evidence but to me it's not enough to acquit. The fact he lied for 20 months about not being near the kennel and then they have video of him at the scene of the crime is damming as fuck. He's going down 100%.
The funny thing about defense experts explaining how blood should have gone everywhere or nowhere or should have gone in this or that direction is stuff juries never care about. A gun went off, a guy died, that we know. He had hours to change. Rushing to see his mom was a good move. If they didn't have him on video at the kennels he might have gotten out of it but he was there oops one wrong move. He's gonna fry.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5298947&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684",#46000016) |
Date: March 2nd, 2023 1:18 AM Author: puce step-uncle's house
I haven’t followed this closely.
How exactly does killing his wife and son solve his big debt/embezzling problem? Life insurance?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5298947&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684",#46000057) |
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Date: March 2nd, 2023 11:15 AM Author: Beady-eyed field
overwhelming circumstantial evidence leads to a conviction in 2-4 hours of deliberation
including
- audio evidence proves he was at the scene minutes before the murders, and this is after he vehmently denied being anywhere near the scene
- cell phone shows frantic activity immediately after the time of the murders despite being otherwise pretty quiet all day.
- Onstar showed he drove on the road right by which was found his wife's cell phone;
- Onstar showed he was going 80 mph on the way to his moms house (to get there as soon as possible after the murders) on roads with much lower speed limits.
- when he got to his mother's place, his mother's caregiver testified that he told her to tell everyone he was actually at his mother's for 40 minutes, not 20 minutes. this so creeped the caregiver out that she called her brother, LEO, when he left.
- the caregiver also explained that his mom was sleeping the whole time, despite his claim that he was visiting with her.
- he has no explanation for why the clothes that he was wearing that day (and which he was wearing when he killed them) have gone missing. i believe he initially denied wearing those clothes until the video evidence showed that he was and the family maid testified that he was as well.
- caregiver testified that he carried something away covered in a raincoat a few days later early in the morning when he was visiting his mother. that raincoat tested positive for gunshot residue.
- he called his wife over to the house on the day of the murders to ostensibly visit his ailing mother with him. yet she didn't go with him to his mom's house. her sister testified to all of this bc she had a phone call with his wife where his wife thought it was unusual he wanted her over there.
and this is without even getting into his enormous financial fraud, scumbag drug abuse, and serial lying to everyone about everything.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5298947&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684",#46000898) |
Date: March 2nd, 2023 1:35 PM Author: galvanic dark dragon
THANK YOU BUBBA
THE DOG IS THE BEST WITNESS
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5298947&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684",#46001527) |
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