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what do you think of this $10M house in Kennebunkport, Maine?

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/60-Ocean-Ave-Kennebunkpor...
Hairraiser dragon
  07/21/26
It looks like something an NFL owner would scoop up but neve...
Haunting drab mad cow disease
  07/21/26
I've seen more tasteless in my time, it's not overly garish
Hairraiser dragon
  07/21/26
That's exactly why it would end up in the hands of someone v...
Haunting drab mad cow disease
  07/21/26
it seems really cozy and comfy even though it's enormous
Crystalline Parlor
  07/21/26
look at the house behind it and imagine me sitting on the po...
Exciting sienna wrinkle
  07/21/26
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slate aggressive personal credit line
  07/22/26
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excitant regret
  07/22/26
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lascivious faggot firefighter
  07/23/26
180
self-centered abnormal party of the first part
  07/23/26
TTT garage-first view from the street lined with normal 4,00...
snowy vivacious crackhouse french chef
  07/21/26
There's a lot to dislike, but at first I didn't catch that i...
Deep Native
  07/21/26
isnt this place warm like 45 days out of the year. why would...
diverse beta stead
  07/21/26
I just don't get the appeal of a house this fucking huge.
ruddy hall
  07/21/26
IMO, huge homes made more sense back in the day (this house ...
Deep Native
  07/21/26
This makes sense and I hadn't considered it. tyft. I reme...
ruddy hall
  07/21/26
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razzle-dazzle zippy hissy fit volcanic crater
  07/22/26
many of the renovations make it look like the world's larges...
Provocative misanthropic orchestra pit headpube
  07/21/26
the upkeep and maintenance on this house must be insane i...
turquoise curious stock car
  07/21/26
Yea calculating the heating bill is giving me anxiety. At l...
diverse beta stead
  07/21/26
LOL why would you assume no AC? Everywhere in this count...
Deep Native
  07/21/26
Houses built in like 1909 don’t have central air ime
big-titted university weed whacker
  07/21/26
They do when they get put through heavy renovations and owne...
Deep Native
  07/21/26
Houses in Maine aren't supposed to have A/C.
diverse beta stead
  07/22/26
lol of course this house has fucking air conditioning you di...
comical fortuitous meteor
  07/22/26
I know what you mean. My family's cabin in northern WI doesn...
pearly splenetic institution
  07/22/26
I wouldn't assume ACs just left to sit will last a "lon...
lime boyish philosopher-king
  07/23/26
I guess "a long fucking time" is quite a vague phr...
pearly splenetic institution
  07/23/26
these houses tend to be owned by rich people
Exciting sienna wrinkle
  07/21/26
would love an autistic richmo to break down the upkeep costs...
vibrant azure kitty
  07/21/26
This is basically the type of place that random middle class...
big-titted university weed whacker
  07/21/26
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diverse beta stead
  07/21/26
10M and ur not even on the water? Fuck that.
sinister rigor
  07/21/26
tcr
razzle-dazzle zippy hissy fit volcanic crater
  07/22/26
The elevated lawn reminds me the old Xzibit memes
bonkers school cafeteria patrolman
  07/21/26
nice house but I don't see the point of spending ten million...
cracking hairless casino
  07/22/26
needs Japanese toilets
odious box office
  07/22/26
Amerikkkans just go around with dirty assholes all day, fyi.
costumed pocket flask
  07/22/26
I don’t. Installed one in my condo. They’re not ...
aromatic doobsian blood rage trust fund
  07/22/26
the Bush compound nearby is the most prestigious and badass ...
Rebellious Dysfunction
  07/22/26
They're not going to hang out with you just because you boug...
razzle-dazzle zippy hissy fit volcanic crater
  07/23/26
that wine cellar in the basement looks chintzy. like they j...
comical fortuitous meteor
  07/22/26
Wife wouldn't let her husband have a true sportscuck mancave...
excitant regret
  07/22/26
This whole thing is a Disaster and should be Leveled. Premiu...
Submissive persian
  07/22/26
According to them, the garage is on the rear of the house. T...
Deep Native
  07/23/26
Ghastly
offensive light property
  07/22/26
Give me 1/3 of the home but put it actually on the water wit...
purple gaped sanctuary
  07/22/26
Oafish
sooty generalized bond
  07/22/26
the lack of multiple unusable hot tubs is very troubling
comical fortuitous meteor
  07/22/26
I forsee a price cut
Useless Tattoo
  07/22/26
There's over an acre sitting there basically empty. Obvio...
Deep Native
  07/23/26
I think your daddy is gonna end up selling for under 8 mil b...
sinister rigor
  07/23/26
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razzle-dazzle zippy hissy fit volcanic crater
  07/23/26
A cursory AI search indicates to me that zoning is either ha...
Deep Native
  07/23/26
Glanced at the listing photos. Surprised that a few people t...
very tactful titillating death wish
  07/23/26
I mentioned that it was old because if you didn't know it wa...
Deep Native
  07/23/26
its sandwiched between two roads with a public marina within...
outnumbered garrison karate
  07/23/26


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Date: July 21st, 2026 1:15 PM
Author: Hairraiser dragon

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/60-Ocean-Ave-Kennebunkport-ME-04046/112706086_zpid/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50014381)



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Date: July 21st, 2026 1:16 PM
Author: Haunting drab mad cow disease

It looks like something an NFL owner would scoop up but never actually live in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50014383)



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Date: July 21st, 2026 1:19 PM
Author: Hairraiser dragon

I've seen more tasteless in my time, it's not overly garish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50014385)



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Date: July 21st, 2026 1:22 PM
Author: Haunting drab mad cow disease

That's exactly why it would end up in the hands of someone very, very wealthy and not some upjumped new money cretin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50014391)



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Date: July 21st, 2026 1:31 PM
Author: Crystalline Parlor

it seems really cozy and comfy even though it's enormous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50014406)



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Date: July 21st, 2026 1:35 PM
Author: Exciting sienna wrinkle

look at the house behind it and imagine me sitting on the porch drinking a 40

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50014418)



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Date: July 22nd, 2026 12:18 AM
Author: slate aggressive personal credit line



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50016006)



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Date: July 22nd, 2026 9:35 AM
Author: excitant regret



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50016433)



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Date: July 23rd, 2026 10:55 AM
Author: lascivious faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50018972)



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Date: July 23rd, 2026 10:58 AM
Author: self-centered abnormal party of the first part

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50018982)



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Date: July 21st, 2026 2:18 PM
Author: snowy vivacious crackhouse french chef

TTT garage-first view from the street lined with normal 4,000 sq ft houses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50014502)



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Date: July 21st, 2026 5:15 PM
Author: Deep Native

There's a lot to dislike, but at first I didn't catch that it was originally built in 1900. That covers a fair amount of sins.

I think I'd need to see it in person. Lots of it looks like they went too far with updates (so much painted woodwork...)

Other parts look like they didn't go far enough (pool area looks pretty shitty)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50014923)



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Date: July 21st, 2026 5:39 PM
Author: diverse beta stead

isnt this place warm like 45 days out of the year. why would someone want to live in "kennebunkport"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50015010)



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Date: July 21st, 2026 5:41 PM
Author: ruddy hall

I just don't get the appeal of a house this fucking huge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50015029)



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Date: July 21st, 2026 6:41 PM
Author: Deep Native

IMO, huge homes made more sense back in the day (this house was originally constructed in 1900).

Richmos tended to keep more staff in their presence, people tended to have larger families. Also, lodging & transportation weren't as refined as they are now, so there was a greater societal expectation for wealthy to host guests at their estates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50015186)



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Date: July 21st, 2026 9:34 PM
Author: ruddy hall

This makes sense and I hadn't considered it. tyft.

I remember watching one of those Tiny Home shows and Deion Sanders was on it. He wanted to move out of his huge 10k square foot mansion because he said he legitimately only used like three rooms in the house and it was just a waste.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50015608)



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Date: July 22nd, 2026 12:13 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle zippy hissy fit volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50015997)



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Date: July 21st, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: Provocative misanthropic orchestra pit headpube

many of the renovations make it look like the world's largest mcmansion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50015208)



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Date: July 21st, 2026 7:16 PM
Author: turquoise curious stock car

the upkeep and maintenance on this house must be insane

it costs me like $1000 in electricity a monoth for my tiny little 2500 sq foot home

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50015266)



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Date: July 21st, 2026 7:23 PM
Author: diverse beta stead

Yea calculating the heating bill is giving me anxiety. At least no A/C I assume.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50015278)



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Date: July 21st, 2026 9:04 PM
Author: Deep Native

LOL why would you assume no AC?

Everywhere in this country makes very regular use of AC other than Alaska, coastal Norcal/OR/WA, some scattered high altitude mountain towns, and maybe some coastal Great Lakes spots (Mackinac Island, Copper Harbor?).

The average high in Kennebunkport this month is 84. It hit 96 there on July 2.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50015525)



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Date: July 21st, 2026 9:06 PM
Author: big-titted university weed whacker

Houses built in like 1909 don’t have central air ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50015533)



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Date: July 21st, 2026 9:15 PM
Author: Deep Native

They do when they get put through heavy renovations and owners think they deserve $10M for them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50015566)



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Date: July 22nd, 2026 9:07 AM
Author: diverse beta stead

Houses in Maine aren't supposed to have A/C.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50016411)



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Date: July 22nd, 2026 10:18 AM
Author: comical fortuitous meteor

lol of course this house has fucking air conditioning you dipshit. this is America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50016500)



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Date: July 22nd, 2026 7:27 PM
Author: pearly splenetic institution

I know what you mean. My family's cabin in northern WI doesn't have AC. You could say it's not supposed to; it's a relatively small, basic place on a lake.

But a couple times this summer my old man has backed out of going there w/ me because it's been too hot. I'm starting to not really understand why we aren't sticking a few portable room A/C units up there. They go for around $600 a piece, so we'd probably be able to get the whole cabin cooled for under $2k. The units would probably last a long fucking time too because they'd only get used a few weeks a year.

The fuck are we even doing here? Why am I missing out on one of the last summers my dad has with okay health over ~$200/yr? It's not my call, it's my dad's place and he's really cheap.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50017773)



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Date: July 23rd, 2026 1:02 AM
Author: lime boyish philosopher-king

I wouldn't assume ACs just left to sit will last a "long fucking time." It's not that great to let them sit idle for almost a year at a time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50018541)



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Date: July 23rd, 2026 10:52 AM
Author: pearly splenetic institution

I guess "a long fucking time" is quite a vague phrase. However, I also said that it would be a $2k outlay and that I expect it to average out to roughly $200/year. So, I guess for the benefit of autistic and/or low IQ poasters, I should explicitly state that I expect these ACs to last roughly 10 years.

"It's not that great to let them sit idle for almost a year at a time."

Every AC north of the Mason-Dixon line is idle for 9 months a year to no particular ill effect.

To further flesh out my thoughts on portable AC longevity, I do think that my projected usage of 9 months idle + 3 months of very intermittent usage should result in many more years of service vs. the median use case of sitting for 9 months + being ran hard for 3 months.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50018966)



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Date: July 21st, 2026 7:26 PM
Author: Exciting sienna wrinkle

these houses tend to be owned by rich people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50015280)



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Date: July 21st, 2026 9:12 PM
Author: vibrant azure kitty

would love an autistic richmo to break down the upkeep costs on a house like this.

how much is the gardener/landscaper alone, just for upkeep... not even counting projects like improving landscaping?

how much does a cleaning lady cost weekly just to dust a fucking huge house like this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50015554)



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Date: July 21st, 2026 7:26 PM
Author: big-titted university weed whacker

This is basically the type of place that random middle class people live in in Films.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50015282)



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Date: July 21st, 2026 7:27 PM
Author: diverse beta stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50015285)



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Date: July 21st, 2026 7:27 PM
Author: sinister rigor

10M and ur not even on the water? Fuck that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50015286)



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Date: July 22nd, 2026 12:14 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle zippy hissy fit volcanic crater

tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50015998)



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Date: July 21st, 2026 9:10 PM
Author: bonkers school cafeteria patrolman

The elevated lawn reminds me the old Xzibit memes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50015548)



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Date: July 22nd, 2026 12:16 AM
Author: cracking hairless casino

nice house but I don't see the point of spending ten million to vacation for two weeks a year, I'm sure you can rent something just as nice for like 100k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50016002)



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Date: July 22nd, 2026 12:17 AM
Author: odious box office

needs Japanese toilets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50016005)



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Date: July 22nd, 2026 12:24 AM
Author: costumed pocket flask

Amerikkkans just go around with dirty assholes all day, fyi.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50016015)



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Date: July 22nd, 2026 9:09 AM
Author: aromatic doobsian blood rage trust fund

I don’t. Installed one in my condo. They’re not that expensive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50016413)



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Date: July 22nd, 2026 12:24 AM
Author: Rebellious Dysfunction

the Bush compound nearby is the most prestigious and badass property I have ever seen anywhere in my life. just epic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50016016)



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Date: July 23rd, 2026 7:03 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle zippy hissy fit volcanic crater

They're not going to hang out with you just because you bought that house.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50020294)



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Date: July 22nd, 2026 9:32 AM
Author: comical fortuitous meteor

that wine cellar in the basement looks chintzy. like they just bought some ikea wine racks and put them in a closet. a house that big/expensive should have one of them hidden wine tavern rooms like something nutella would design.

basement in general looks like shit and you have to cross a road to get to the water. a $10M house in fucking Maine should have a deep water dock directly off the back yard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50016431)



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Date: July 22nd, 2026 9:41 AM
Author: excitant regret

Wife wouldn't let her husband have a true sportscuck mancave, and he had to settle for this gay basement wine/bar room

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50016439)



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Date: July 22nd, 2026 9:59 AM
Author: Submissive persian

This whole thing is a Disaster and should be Leveled. Premium pricing with McMansion vibes (gargantuan and tacky), an underwhelming pool, front-facing garage, and a view of the municipal harbor (lmao). I’m curious who would be stupid enough to buy this garish TTT shitpile.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50016463)



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Date: July 23rd, 2026 12:58 AM
Author: Deep Native

According to them, the garage is on the rear of the house. The front is the circle drive side of the house - the one facing the marina.

Not sure I buy it. Seems like a Blasey Ford 'two front doors' sort of situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50018533)



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Date: July 22nd, 2026 10:03 AM
Author: offensive light property

Ghastly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50016475)



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Date: July 22nd, 2026 10:07 AM
Author: purple gaped sanctuary

Give me 1/3 of the home but put it actually on the water with a nice view of the water.

Can't imagine spending $10m to have a shitty view of some shallows.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50016484)



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Date: July 22nd, 2026 10:08 AM
Author: sooty generalized bond

Oafish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50016487)



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Date: July 22nd, 2026 1:13 PM
Author: comical fortuitous meteor

the lack of multiple unusable hot tubs is very troubling

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50016922)



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Date: July 22nd, 2026 10:13 AM
Author: Useless Tattoo

I forsee a price cut

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50016492)



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Date: July 23rd, 2026 12:46 AM
Author: Deep Native

There's over an acre sitting there basically empty.

Obviously I have no clue how much they will let you subdivide. But I do think subdividing was part of the long term plan on this. I think that's why they crammed the pool in where they did - leaves more space to carve off.

IMO the time is right to ring the register on that. The asking price might not be as far off from reality as people ITT are thinking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50018529)



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Date: July 23rd, 2026 11:52 AM
Author: sinister rigor

I think your daddy is gonna end up selling for under 8 mil bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50019052)



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Date: July 23rd, 2026 7:03 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle zippy hissy fit volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50020290)



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Date: July 23rd, 2026 8:11 PM
Author: Deep Native

A cursory AI search indicates to me that zoning is either half acre min or 1 acre min. IMO this absolutely goes for over $8m if the zoning is half acre minimum. I concede there's a small chance this goes under $8m if it's 1 acre minimum, but I don't think it should given what else is listed in town in the $5m range.

I think you guys are being far too hard on the location. Sure, it's not on water. But you can walk to your boat, you can walk to a bunch of restaurants. People pay up for that sort of thing.

There's a reason why 4500sqft a few miles outside of Aspen is $4m, while something 1/4 the size but right in Aspen is $6m.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/679-Brush-Creek-Rd_Aspen_CO_81611_M19352-69204

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/735-W-Bleeker-St_Aspen_CO_81611_M16228-95924

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50020452)



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Date: July 23rd, 2026 12:20 PM
Author: very tactful titillating death wish

Glanced at the listing photos. Surprised that a few people think this house is old. There may be an original core somewhere, but 99% of what you see is so heavily renovated to the point you can't call it an old house. I spotted an older staircase that's the only clue to an earlier history. The rest is standard 1990s to present cheaply built and cheaply designed house.

All in all, it's not outright tacky but there's enough major design and material flaws that genuine money would laugh at this house, or do another major renovation. If you've been in the real money houses, you'd understand why the finishes fall badly short. And yet it's asking real money prices. With a $10M budget you likely can do much better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50019123)



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Date: July 23rd, 2026 9:00 PM
Author: Deep Native

I mentioned that it was old because if you didn't know it was old you would likely assume that this was something completely idiotic built from the ground up in the 90s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884754&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50020595)



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Date: July 23rd, 2026 12:22 PM
Author: outnumbered garrison karate

its sandwiched between two roads with a public marina within smelling distance. not even close to worth it.

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