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"Restaurants" are such a joke now

and the staff know it too. if you are brazen enough to order...
Yellow Mediation
  08/11/26
you're just bald, so every waitress marks you as a rube the ...
Ultramarine misunderstood travel guidebook dragon
  08/11/26
you can take your crap and shove it
Yellow Mediation
  08/11/26
here's your slop, now tip me.
Outnumbered cobalt immigrant
  08/11/26
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vibrant library
  08/12/26
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aphrodisiac circlehead
  08/12/26
I was at a place that served you food in the take out box.
Walnut bearded set filthpig
  08/11/26
did you tip 30%
opaque milk newt
  08/11/26
Included
Walnut bearded set filthpig
  08/11/26
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pontificating whorehouse
  08/11/26
How do people eat out? I have a top 10% income and LOL @ ...
house-broken queen of the night
  08/11/26
oh wow top 10%, well step right this way Mr. Gatsby
Yellow Mediation
  08/11/26
he's a broke af third worlder
Ultramarine misunderstood travel guidebook dragon
  08/11/26
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cerise boyish senate sweet tailpipe
  08/11/26
(guy who misses the point) unless the answer is only the ...
house-broken queen of the night
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Sepia Hyperventilating Mad-dog Skullcap
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Violent Stage Quadroon
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Harsh arousing brunch
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aphrodisiac circlehead
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shivering macaca location
  08/12/26
looool!
vibrant library
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Violet Cowardly Incel Menage
  08/11/26
i went to a high end turd resto and got a kashmiri kebab ove...
Slate rebellious crotch
  08/11/26
For all the silliness of The Burrito Discourse, it actually ...
pontificating whorehouse
  08/11/26
yes. Like to my point above, if all of them are making $400k...
house-broken queen of the night
  08/11/26
I make over $400k and we cook 90% of our meals. And even whe...
Swashbuckling Misanthropic Theater Stage
  08/11/26
jesus I get uncomfortable when my spending reaches half o...
house-broken queen of the night
  08/11/26
Honestly if not for women being in the picture, I think most...
Swashbuckling Misanthropic Theater Stage
  08/11/26
Only those not addicted to the goyslop. If you're not addic...
Ultramarine misunderstood travel guidebook dragon
  08/11/26
The crazy part is decent grocery stores now basically sell i...
Swashbuckling Misanthropic Theater Stage
  08/12/26
Same. Once or twice a month we go to one of the three of fou...
Harsh arousing brunch
  08/12/26
"But Vast majority of Americans make $50-$150k. How can...
Lascivious medicated doctorate
  08/11/26
When I came back to USA and heard so many doordash, I was li...
house-broken queen of the night
  08/11/26
credit
Soggy Main People
  08/12/26
asia though also gone up a lot, the days of eating thai or v...
Slate rebellious crotch
  08/11/26
I eat 3 cans of beans per day (breakfast, lunch, dinner); my...
Sepia Hyperventilating Mad-dog Skullcap
  08/11/26
seems like there's substantial efficiency to be gained by co...
Aromatic dopamine piazza
  08/11/26
thank you for your feedback i am processing this in real tim...
Sepia Hyperventilating Mad-dog Skullcap
  08/11/26
He's right though, at those quantities it doesn't make sense...
avocado diverse codepig property
  08/11/26
you're Wrong. beans cooked at home are Shit.
Sepia Hyperventilating Mad-dog Skullcap
  08/11/26
I'm a beanius and you won't go back
avocado diverse codepig property
  08/11/26
more like beantard
Sepia Hyperventilating Mad-dog Skullcap
  08/11/26
This is what burritos are for
pontificating whorehouse
  08/11/26
tortillas are shelf stable for 6 years now imo
Sepia Hyperventilating Mad-dog Skullcap
  08/11/26
Fast food and other slop chips are expensive now because the...
Ultramarine misunderstood travel guidebook dragon
  08/11/26
u cld have just poasted: JEWS
Slate rebellious crotch
  08/11/26
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Swashbuckling Misanthropic Theater Stage
  08/12/26
it's not CRE prices lmao
Sepia Hyperventilating Mad-dog Skullcap
  08/11/26
there is nothing weird about it at all. the food industry re...
Galvanic Ebony Home
  08/11/26
yeah man have u seen sweetgreen's margins lately it's basica...
Wonderful Resort
  08/11/26
What you just described in your post is in fact extremely we...
pontificating whorehouse
  08/11/26
It does sound weird but it's spot-on. Doordash changed the g...
Lascivious medicated doctorate
  08/11/26
literal whales
house-broken queen of the night
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Harsh arousing brunch
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magical rose police squad native
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Massive maniacal theater
  08/11/26
maybe we should eat the bugs
Brass frisky new version
  08/11/26
I always found the right wing obsession with "we will n...
Swashbuckling Misanthropic Theater Stage
  08/12/26
I just walk up to the drive thru
Godawful Casino
  08/12/26
I took my family out to eat once this summer (for their gran...
Flickering field
  08/12/26
not knowing how to cook, and being in control of most of you...
Plum windowlicker coldplay fan
  08/12/26
How do people go on first dates to restaurants; its a $350 c...
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Date: August 11th, 2026 12:46 PM
Author: Yellow Mediation

and the staff know it too. if you are brazen enough to order something they'll look at you like "lol fucking idiot" and then toss your slop onto the table

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50060794)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 12:50 PM
Author: Ultramarine misunderstood travel guidebook dragon

you're just bald, so every waitress marks you as a rube the moment you walk in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50060802)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 12:55 PM
Author: Yellow Mediation

you can take your crap and shove it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50060812)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 12:51 PM
Author: Outnumbered cobalt immigrant

here's your slop, now tip me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50060804)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:29 AM
Author: vibrant library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50063199)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:39 AM
Author: aphrodisiac circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50063214)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 12:58 PM
Author: Walnut bearded set filthpig

I was at a place that served you food in the take out box.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50060813)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 12:58 PM
Author: opaque milk newt

did you tip 30%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50060814)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:03 PM
Author: Walnut bearded set filthpig

Included

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50060828)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: pontificating whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50060868)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:02 PM
Author: house-broken queen of the night

How do people eat out?

I have a top 10% income and LOL @ the idea of eating out more than once a month at a place with a waiter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50060824)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:10 PM
Author: Yellow Mediation

oh wow top 10%, well step right this way Mr. Gatsby

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50060846)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:14 PM
Author: Ultramarine misunderstood travel guidebook dragon

he's a broke af third worlder

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50060859)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 5:21 PM
Author: cerise boyish senate sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061624)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:16 PM
Author: house-broken queen of the night

(guy who misses the point)

unless the answer is only the top 3% eat out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50060861)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:02 PM
Author: Sepia Hyperventilating Mad-dog Skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061418)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:20 PM
Author: Violent Stage Quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061475)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:16 AM
Author: Harsh arousing brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50063165)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:19 AM
Author: aphrodisiac circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50063178)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:20 AM
Author: shivering macaca location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50063181)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:30 AM
Author: vibrant library

looool!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50063201)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:03 PM
Author: Violet Cowardly Incel Menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50060826)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:12 PM
Author: Slate rebellious crotch

i went to a high end turd resto and got a kashmiri kebab over naan with a beer and it was $16 which is quite high for me but whatever, i only eat like one meal a day, in US this wld be $100

i didnt tip except for leaving a 10 coin which is like $.03 cents

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50060851)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: pontificating whorehouse

For all the silliness of The Burrito Discourse, it actually is crazy what a massive disconnect there is between eating out in the US and Asia

You can eat out for super cheap in Asia. Meanwhile over here you are paying a comically enormous mark-up for anything. Even fast food is now ridiculously expensive. But people here are still eating out more than ever. It's like they're just resigned to it and think they have no other option

It's super fucking weird. Like the population has been legit brainwashed into this behavior as social conditioning. Something very weird going on with this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50060867)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:21 PM
Author: house-broken queen of the night

yes. Like to my point above, if all of them are making $400k+ then cool.

But Vast majority of Americans make $50-$150k. How can these people afford to eat out more than once a month? lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50060883)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:45 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Misanthropic Theater Stage

I make over $400k and we cook 90% of our meals. And even when we go out, it's nothing special. Very few places feel worthwhile at this point.

I think most people just do their 401K contributions and then spend basically every other dollar. Totally brutal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50060922)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:01 PM
Author: house-broken queen of the night

jesus

I get uncomfortable when my spending reaches half of my pay (pre tax to be fair). I'm also in a low tax bracket (under 20%)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061416)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:23 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Misanthropic Theater Stage

Honestly if not for women being in the picture, I think most men would be content eating chicken, rice, beans, and eggs and maybe going to a diner once a week. Monthly cost would be like $200.

At least I'd be down for that tbh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061484)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:33 PM
Author: Ultramarine misunderstood travel guidebook dragon

Only those not addicted to the goyslop. If you're not addicted to the goyslop, then grilled chicken + some roasted vegetables is a simple, healthy meal that most dudes would be fine with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061504)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:29 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Misanthropic Theater Stage

The crazy part is decent grocery stores now basically sell ingredients with most of the prep work done. I recently bought some pre-cut and seasoned chicken to make tacos at home and it was better than Chipotle for 1/10th the price (and it fed multiple people). It was like $5 and it could've fed me across three meals easily.

That's what's crazy. You don't even really need to know how to cook beyond heating a fucking pan at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50063097)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:27 AM
Author: Harsh arousing brunch

Same. Once or twice a month we go to one of the three of four places we like and trust. Take out maybe twice a month. Everything else at home. Dining out is generally a nightmare for a variety of reasons. If no wife I might never eat a meal outside my home again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50063197)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:55 PM
Author: Lascivious medicated doctorate

"But Vast majority of Americans make $50-$150k. How can these people afford to eat out more than once a month? lol"

I deliver a LOT of Doordash to fairly crappy apartments.

People's brains basically short-circuit when it comes to food.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061549)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 6:02 PM
Author: house-broken queen of the night

When I came back to USA and heard so many doordash, I was like cool.

Then I tried to order some McDonalds and it was going to be more than $20 for 1 meal and that's if I offered like a $2 tip which apperently wouldn't get a driver.

I never tried to do that again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061749)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 1:04 AM
Author: Soggy Main People

credit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50062725)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:29 PM
Author: Slate rebellious crotch

asia though also gone up a lot, the days of eating thai or viet for $1-2 are almost gone, its more like $3-5 now

US still moar rapist though cause it has jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50060897)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:03 PM
Author: Sepia Hyperventilating Mad-dog Skullcap

I eat 3 cans of beans per day (breakfast, lunch, dinner); my monthly food costs, given palletization of my inputs, is just under $80

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061423)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:13 PM
Author: Aromatic dopamine piazza

seems like there's substantial efficiency to be gained by cooking your own beans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061449)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:13 PM
Author: Sepia Hyperventilating Mad-dog Skullcap

thank you for your feedback i am processing this in real time and we will likely make those changes before the next launch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061453)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:39 PM
Author: avocado diverse codepig property

He's right though, at those quantities it doesn't make sense to not cook a pound a week freeze some portions and have an ever rotating supply of variety

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061521)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:56 PM
Author: Sepia Hyperventilating Mad-dog Skullcap

you're Wrong. beans cooked at home are Shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061554)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 5:17 PM
Author: avocado diverse codepig property

I'm a beanius and you won't go back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061614)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 5:29 PM
Author: Sepia Hyperventilating Mad-dog Skullcap

more like beantard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061655)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:16 PM
Author: pontificating whorehouse

This is what burritos are for

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061461)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:21 PM
Author: Sepia Hyperventilating Mad-dog Skullcap

tortillas are shelf stable for 6 years now imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061478)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:31 PM
Author: Ultramarine misunderstood travel guidebook dragon

Fast food and other slop chips are expensive now because the commercial real estate rents have become insane. Moreover, since the Great Inflation, property values have increased massively, so now the property taxes are outrageous as well.

So for any of these slop shops to make it, they have to charge $16 for a burger and $20.99 for the fries & drink combo meal.

America has an addiction economy now where the main drug of choice is genetically modified goyslop created in labs. The fast food and everything else is meant to be addicting. There's no fundamental difference between the fent junkie on the street and the obese Guatemalan family you see who just got done gorging themselves on some Wendy's. These people have effectively given up on life. They're now just slaves to their passions (i.e. addicts).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061498)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:32 PM
Author: Slate rebellious crotch

u cld have just poasted: JEWS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061500)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:36 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Misanthropic Theater Stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50063106)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:44 PM
Author: Sepia Hyperventilating Mad-dog Skullcap

it's not CRE prices lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061528)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 5:01 PM
Author: Galvanic Ebony Home

there is nothing weird about it at all. the food industry realized people are fat lazy fucks and will pay the premium to not cook their own food. covid in particular opened the flood gates because once restaurants/fast food saw how much people were willing to pay for doordash fees they realized they could just raise the base prices by a shitload.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061570)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 5:10 PM
Author: Wonderful Resort

yeah man have u seen sweetgreen's margins lately it's basically saas / luxury retail

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061600)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 5:11 PM
Author: pontificating whorehouse

What you just described in your post is in fact extremely weird

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061601)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 5:29 PM
Author: Lascivious medicated doctorate

It does sound weird but it's spot-on. Doordash changed the game. If it wasn't for them, all the quick-service restaurants would still be playing their old games of trying to win business with discounts.

The discounts have gone away because the restaurants have all realized they can make plenty of money by soaking Doordash whales.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061651)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:28 AM
Author: house-broken queen of the night

literal whales

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50062815)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:29 AM
Author: Harsh arousing brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50063200)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:16 AM
Author: magical rose police squad native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50063069)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 5:20 PM
Author: Massive maniacal theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061623)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 5:45 PM
Author: Brass frisky new version

maybe we should eat the bugs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50061709)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:38 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Misanthropic Theater Stage

I always found the right wing obsession with "we will not eat bugs" kind of crazy because it's like...yeah, obviously WE won't. But the human detritus that makes up a large and growing portion of the population will. They will eat whatever is foisted upon them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50063108)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 1:13 AM
Author: Godawful Casino

I just walk up to the drive thru

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50062739)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:24 AM
Author: Flickering field

I took my family out to eat once this summer (for their grandmother's birthday). There were 8 of us at the table. The bill was like $340.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310684#50063086)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:30 AM
Author: Plum windowlicker coldplay fan

not knowing how to cook, and being in control of most of your meals, is ttt

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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:40 AM
Author: Copper Love Of Her Life Lay

How do people go on first dates to restaurants; its a $350 commitment and no one wants to be responsible for that. Its just too much too soon.



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