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Labour only got 1/3 of popular vote, less than under Corbyn

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13603607/Keirs-supe...
comical selfie
  07/05/24
First past the post is ridiculous- everything should be run ...
Lascivious ticket booth mood
  07/05/24
It should go to the House of Lords in that case, or the King...
comical selfie
  07/05/24
It's better in the long term.
Motley chest-beating indian lodge quadroon
  07/05/24
it's also bizarre to me how many tory hig-ranking cabinet mi...
Pale fiercely-loyal house crotch
  07/05/24
much more fickle (read: naïve -- sincerely believing in...
Chestnut Magical Cuck
  07/05/24
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71mrmlsmF6L._AC_UF1000,1...
lime judgmental karate
  07/05/24
ljfl tyft
Chestnut Magical Cuck
  07/05/24
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big violet messiness brethren
  07/05/24
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Chestnut Magical Cuck
  07/05/24
cantor getting primaried was a targeted antisemitic national...
Pale fiercely-loyal house crotch
  07/05/24
Daschle, Cantor, Richard Lugar, Joe Crowley, Mike Castle, To...
Chestnut Magical Cuck
  07/05/24
i thought UK has much fewer money in elections; do they have...
Pale fiercely-loyal house crotch
  07/05/24
They do, in fact, have much less money in elections. Parties...
Chestnut Magical Cuck
  07/05/24
UK MPs are generally not local bros who are natives to their...
comical selfie
  07/05/24
which is also insane to me -- locals immediately have such a...
Chestnut Magical Cuck
  07/05/24
Our districts get changed around all the time too, to be fai...
comical selfie
  07/05/24
but with far less frequency than they nakedly carpetbag MP c...
Chestnut Magical Cuck
  07/05/24
True true
comical selfie
  07/05/24
good subtread tyty
Pale fiercely-loyal house crotch
  07/05/24
US is the one that's bullshit. Everyone deserves to lose th...
Motley chest-beating indian lodge quadroon
  07/05/24
and yet Britain exists to assure you that truly means nothin...
Chestnut Magical Cuck
  07/05/24
The US has nowhere near the party discipline of the UK, wher...
frisky heaven potus
  07/05/24
If I was a Brit I would be very upset that my country is abo...
arousing poppy stage legend
  07/05/24
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flushed institution
  07/05/24
Labour got a smaller share of the vote than the last electio...
Razzle-dazzle property macaca
  07/05/24
5 years? govts collapse much sooner, and smartly they can ha...
Pale fiercely-loyal house crotch
  07/05/24
UK governments collapse when the MPs turn against the party....
Razzle-dazzle property macaca
  07/05/24
hung parliament. heh
Pale fiercely-loyal house crotch
  07/05/24
there was a Boycott of the Tories from the anti-cuck right. ...
Wine genital piercing
  07/05/24
i consider Britain irreversibly lost, but for those who don'...
Chestnut Magical Cuck
  07/05/24
why didn't the anti-cuck right all vote farage/ukip/reform?
Pale fiercely-loyal house crotch
  07/05/24
They did, but it's Britain. Most people are cucks.
comical selfie
  07/05/24
It doesn't matter who "wins" in the UK, that count...
Twisted Azn Idiot
  07/05/24
Guess who's next.
comical selfie
  07/05/24


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Date: July 5th, 2024 5:38 AM
Author: comical selfie

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13603607/Keirs-super-meh-jority-Starmer-turns-Britain-red-brutal-night-Tories-dubbed-loveless-landslide-Labours-huge-Commons-majority-won-barely-vote-share-Blair-Corbyn-achieved.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811098)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 7:44 AM
Author: Lascivious ticket booth mood

First past the post is ridiculous- everything should be run off if no absolute majority

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811177)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:02 AM
Author: comical selfie

It should go to the House of Lords in that case, or the King should just rule.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811333)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:14 AM
Author: Motley chest-beating indian lodge quadroon

It's better in the long term.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811371)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 8:17 AM
Author: Pale fiercely-loyal house crotch

it's also bizarre to me how many tory hig-ranking cabinet ministers lost their seat. u'd never have that in the US in wave elections. the power of incumbency -- and districts/states supporting their guy in the leadership bc he has power -- doesn't seem to be a big deal in the uk. idgi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811247)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 8:39 AM
Author: Chestnut Magical Cuck

much more fickle (read: naïve -- sincerely believing in elections lmao) electorate, in both positions and turnout. smaller districts means more variability/volatility.

recall, too, Brat's primary win over Cantor -- it can happen here too, just much more rarely due to size of district and consistency of electorate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811296)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 8:44 AM
Author: lime judgmental karate

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71mrmlsmF6L._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811301)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 8:45 AM
Author: Chestnut Magical Cuck

ljfl tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811303)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 8:50 AM
Author: big violet messiness brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811310)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 8:51 AM
Author: Chestnut Magical Cuck



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811312)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 8:55 AM
Author: Pale fiercely-loyal house crotch

cantor getting primaried was a targeted antisemitic nationallly funded hit on a high-profile jew.

daschle losing his seat is perhaps a better example.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811320)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:02 AM
Author: Chestnut Magical Cuck

Daschle, Cantor, Richard Lugar, Joe Crowley, Mike Castle, Tom Foley in the 90s -- all work as illustrations. Most upsets of leadership are targeted hits for ad spend and campaigning, in the UK too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811332)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:41 AM
Author: Pale fiercely-loyal house crotch

i thought UK has much fewer money in elections; do they have targeted hit jobs on leaders like we do? were rishi, truss, etc. all targeted?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811495)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 11:25 AM
Author: Chestnut Magical Cuck

They do, in fact, have much less money in elections. Parties and candidates are both statutorily limited in the amount they may spend per each seat they intend to contest. However, they have their own PACs (known as "non-party campaigners") and while those are also limited, largely the only thing preventing one individual or group of individuals from creating several entities and reaching the spending limit with each is the administrative regulatory compliance burden.

These orgs, while nominally prohibited from coordination with parties or candidates, can act just as PACs do in the US and functionally do just that. They typically focus on leadership races and important seats.

Furthermore, in-person canvassing has a much greater role than ads do because of financial limitation,s so often campaigns rely on rallies, in-person candidate visits and door-to-doors. This has much greater effect than it would in the US because they have much smaller districts -- there are 650 seats in the Commons, districts are designed to contain roughly 75k constituents, and in many places that means they are only a few city blocks.

This all means the money goes much further than it would here, and targeted races are still very possible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811810)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:04 AM
Author: comical selfie

UK MPs are generally not local bros who are natives to their district with local power bases like in the US. The national party just assigns them seats to run for and then they go there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811336)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:12 AM
Author: Chestnut Magical Cuck

which is also insane to me -- locals immediately have such an advantage when trying to beat one of these carpetbaggers

the whole UK political charade is much better circus kayfabe than ours, with even less effect:

-- rotating districts, so you have to work to even know who your reps are

-- elections can be called at bizarre intervals on a whim, and the entire government reshuffled

-- once "your" monkey is elected, they then sometimes hold another great circus to decide leadership

and even less changes there than here!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811359)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:14 AM
Author: comical selfie

Our districts get changed around all the time too, to be fair, at least in the big states.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811368)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:18 AM
Author: Chestnut Magical Cuck

but with far less frequency than they nakedly carpetbag MP candidates, afaik, and the US candidate usually retains the local base and redistricting really mostly just changes vote counting lines -- it's not as if AOC suddenly starts running in upstate NY or Matt Gaetz is suddenly running in Miami.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811388)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:27 AM
Author: comical selfie

True true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811451)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:43 AM
Author: Pale fiercely-loyal house crotch

good subtread tyty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811499)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:15 AM
Author: Motley chest-beating indian lodge quadroon

US is the one that's bullshit. Everyone deserves to lose their job an no one ever does.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811376)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:18 AM
Author: Chestnut Magical Cuck

and yet Britain exists to assure you that truly means nothing!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811393)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:34 AM
Author: frisky heaven potus

The US has nowhere near the party discipline of the UK, where you're really voting for the party and not the person. It doesn't matter who you pick when they're going to support the leadership 100% of the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811479)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 8:19 AM
Author: arousing poppy stage legend

If I was a Brit I would be very upset that my country is about to get irreversibly ruined by a bunch of zealots with such small minority support

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811249)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 8:34 AM
Author: flushed institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811289)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 8:31 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle property macaca

Labour got a smaller share of the vote than the last election, which they lost, but this time a massive landslide. It does mean their majority is on weak foundations and susceptible to a reversal in five years' time. Much weaker than Tony Blair's landslide.

However, given the Tory fuckup and failures I am not weeping for them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811284)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 8:32 AM
Author: Pale fiercely-loyal house crotch

5 years? govts collapse much sooner, and smartly they can have quicker elections when the govt fails -- unlike our stupid system.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811286)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:11 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle property macaca

UK governments collapse when the MPs turn against the party. It would only happen when majorities are razor thin or in a hung Parliament. Neither applies to Starmer. He has a full five years to work with. I suspect he'll be in power for a solid 10 years.

The Tories are facing an existential crisis because it's clear they need to decide to be either pointless centrist Tories or right wing Tories, not both. The latter fared better in holding on to their seats so it's probable the next leader will be either Braverman or Badenoch. That's right, the face of right wing conservatism in Britain will be a brown woman. Ironic to you but not necessarily to the British.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811356)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:43 AM
Author: Pale fiercely-loyal house crotch

hung parliament. heh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811504)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 8:33 AM
Author: Wine genital piercing

there was a Boycott of the Tories from the anti-cuck right. #ZeroTorySeats

people are fed up. we should follow suit in the US.

that's why Labour won so big.

https://www.reddit.com/r/tories/comments/1bnc628/zero_seats/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811287)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 8:41 AM
Author: Chestnut Magical Cuck

i consider Britain irreversibly lost, but for those who don't, I wonder what that line might be and how close labour will get in the next few years.

may very well end up being a case of ruining your nose to spite your face.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811299)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:45 AM
Author: Pale fiercely-loyal house crotch

why didn't the anti-cuck right all vote farage/ukip/reform?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811511)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 10:16 AM
Author: comical selfie

They did, but it's Britain. Most people are cucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811589)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 8:43 AM
Author: Twisted Azn Idiot

It doesn't matter who "wins" in the UK, that country is done for. We watched the decline of an empire in real time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811300)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:05 AM
Author: comical selfie

Guess who's next.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550683&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#47811339)