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Date: November 4th, 2024 7:22 PM
Author: borders (retired)

Historically, electoral polls have waded in mirages, with missteps as distant as the 1824 Jackson-Adams contest, when every shred of intuitive logic placed Jackson ahead, only for the "Corrupt Bargain" of Henry Clay to engineer an improbable reversal. Jackson’s presumptive aura was underestimated by political calculus—an oversight emblematic of the "latent voter" hypothesis, which suggests that polling mechanisms chronically undervalue intensity, a factor Trump harnesses with unmatched alacrity.

Archimedes once stated, “Give me a lever long enough, and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world.” Trump’s campaign—however chaotic and seemingly rudderless—channels this principle, capturing and mobilizing a fervent base, establishing a kind of social fulcrum. Theoretically, Trump's lever lies in his unprecedented ability to court those "hidden variables" in voting blocs: disaffected working-class whites, rural Midwesterners, and those swaths of Gen X whose disenfranchisement festers just beneath the veneer of pollster predictions. Harris, by contrast, appears as though she too possesses a lever but has failed to find its fulcrum. Her campaign speaks to technocratic elites and the progressive fringe, without the necessary distribution to shift the electorate’s collective inertia.

Polling failures from the 1800s, particularly the 1876 Tilden-Hayes election, offer insight here as well. Tilden's base, thought to be unassailable, was cast aside in a proto-modern polling miss, one that failed to anticipate the fractured electoral landscape and Southern suppression dynamics. If anything, 2024 risks becoming an analog of this—Trump may mobilize overlooked populations in key swing states, while Harris’s predictions will echo that century-old hubris, resulting in a "shattered expectation" reminiscent of Tilden.

Political science, from its sterile towers, often speaks of the “law of anticipation”—the notion that what is seen and known inherently changes behavior, affecting outcomes in unpredictable ways. Herein lies the trap: modern polling has grown so obsessed with its omniscience that it often neglects the shadows cast by its very methodology.

In Harris, we see an embodiment of "vaporous leadership"—a form of governance that’s more performative than penetrative, an Archimedean “pivot without a platform.” This election, in the end, may hinge on the great unknown, not of a margin of error but of an entire miscalculation of class sentiment. Pollsters who fail to reckon with Trump’s mass are likely to miscalculate, not merely by points but by paradigms.

Trump's gravitational appeal reflects the dynamics of what political scientists have termed "residual populism," a force that stubbornly persists, invisible to statistical analysis, much like nineteenth-century occult interpretations of voting behavior that treated Jacksonian democracy as a near-mystical force, resistant to the stratification models of the day. And yet, one could liken Harris to the ill-fated candidacies of the Whigs, who sought not merely to campaign but to civilize, relying on a rhetoric of moral ascendency, which crumbled under the weight of popular disinterest. In Harris, we observe the risk of that same Whiggish delusion—the belief that virtue alone can overcome a lack of visceral appeal.

This tension between populism and institutionalism recalls Pareto's "circulation of elites" theory, where each generation’s ruling class is gradually replaced by a newer one that appears at first to rise organically, yet is increasingly encrusted in inherited ideologies that lose connection with the base. Pareto’s idea, that this rotation is inevitable but produces degeneration in each cycle, is especially apt in viewing Harris. She appears less like a fresh embodiment of progress than a simulacrum of the institutional left, a figure whose very ascent seems to betray the energy of those she nominally represents. Trump, however ironically, is Pareto’s “elite returner” archetype—a kind of recurring populist figure who crashes through cycles of elite complacency with an appeal that is both primal and aberrant, more born of resentment than reform.

One could analogize this struggle as akin to the conditions leading up to the famed misfire of 1888, when Grover Cleveland lost the electoral vote to Benjamin Harrison despite prevailing in the popular count—a result that rattled the assumptions of the day and exposed the fallacy of presuming uniform sentiment across a geographically diverse nation. Today’s pollsters, embroiled in a similar fixation with predictive analytics, have repeatedly misjudged Trump’s appeal, misreading the polarity between urban and rural populations, much as 1880s analysts failed to perceive the significance of Cleveland’s “invisible electorate”—the laborers and working poor who eschewed early polling methods yet cast their ballots in force.

From a political psychology lens, Harris’s failure to resonate is reminiscent of the “psychometric fallacy,” the notion that mere affinity for values among her core demographic should naturally translate into electoral support. Her appeals to diversity, equity, and theoretical progressivism often fail to connect with the working-class base, creating a hollow echo that political scientists like Schumpeter would characterize as “hollow participation.” Trump, meanwhile, invokes Schumpeter’s concept of “creative destruction” in politics, bulldozing through established norms in such a way that his appeal is not grounded in ideological specificity but in a fervent, almost irrational loyalty.

And as we look back on missteps in polling and historical folly, it is perhaps Archimedes who inadvertently presages the 2024 dynamic best. He warned that "those who claim to weigh the universe risk being crushed by it.” In their attempt to measure and quantify every conceivable variable, today’s electoral analysts have crafted a fragile apparatus vulnerable to precisely the kinds of gravitational forces Trump represents. Harris, caught in the whirlpool, might as well be trying to swim with her own shadow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5624957&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#48282781)



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Date: November 4th, 2024 11:19 PM
Author: .,.,;,.,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,.,.,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,.


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The text argues that current polls may underestimate Trump's chances against Harris in 2024, drawing parallels to historical polling failures and suggesting that Harris's technocratic appeal lacks the populist momentum that Trump commands.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5624957&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#48284096)



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Date: November 4th, 2024 11:38 PM
Author: borders (retired)

Nailed it imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5624957&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#48284201)



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Date: November 4th, 2024 7:22 PM
Author: Cornel West

I love black men

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5624957&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#48282784)



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Date: November 8th, 2024 4:32 PM
Author: Cornel West (🧐)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5624957&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#48312119)



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Date: November 4th, 2024 11:18 PM
Author: borders (retired)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5624957&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#48284090)



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Date: November 8th, 2024 4:32 PM
Author: borders (retired)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5624957&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690",#48312118)