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Why does a Porsche cost triple a BMW? What's the difference?

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Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
My brother is gonna buy one soon before they phase out the m...
mustard clown
  07/16/26
Get one what? I'm not a car guy.
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
I think he's going to pay to get a handjob from a tranny
lime field
  07/16/26
Flame? Tranny should be paying him.
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
not sure, not really a car guy either
lime field
  07/16/26
all you guys who identify as "not a car guy" do yo...
vigorous fluffy stage
  07/19/26
Bland imo It's one of the ones. I like it because it take...
Laughsome brethren
  07/19/26
cr i like the crv for this
vigorous fluffy stage
  07/19/26
It's the Same Car
Laughsome brethren
  07/19/26
not quite, you can say i'm crazy, but i prefer a crv over a ...
vigorous fluffy stage
  07/19/26
At that point the patrician's choice is a Subaru
Laughsome brethren
  07/19/26
no way. maybe in a super lib district. where they also dri...
vigorous fluffy stage
  07/20/26
Gorgeous guy. Also no one drives a Volvo. I haven't seen ...
Laughsome brethren
  07/20/26
lol cr. and also cr on the volvos: they've been going downh...
vigorous fluffy stage
  07/20/26
BMW has US factories. Porsche does not. Given tariffs this...
provocative indian lodge
  07/16/26
So is it the Same Car?
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
No. You might be thinking Audi since a lot of them are the ...
provocative indian lodge
  07/16/26
I never doubted the Bavarians fren.
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
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provocative indian lodge
  07/16/26
sexier badge
slate shitlib blood rage
  07/16/26
ELI5 I'm not a car guy
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
porsche is upper middle class coded, bmw is ethnic new money...
slate shitlib blood rage
  07/16/26
I think the BMW's are nicer because I like the interiors way...
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
you should probably go with a benz if thats your priority
slate shitlib blood rage
  07/16/26
I would never turn my back on BMW. Although I owned one once...
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
This is overrated, tbh. I just had BMW and Mercedes rentals...
provocative indian lodge
  07/16/26
interesting, i have a benz and a bmw and the benz is much ni...
slate shitlib blood rage
  07/16/26
Higher end model will win with any of the major German car b...
provocative indian lodge
  07/16/26
Porsche interiors destroy BMW it’s not close.
Rusted Coffee Pot
  07/16/26
Link?
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
one looks like a beetle the other now comes with a hideous e...
Soul-stirring ivory mediation bawdyhouse
  07/16/26
Which is which?
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
Porsche looks like a beetle, bmw has a chinaslop grille
Sepia Antidepressant Drug Newt
  07/16/26
If loving chinaslop is wrong, I don't ever want to be right....
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
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provocative indian lodge
  07/16/26
porsches retain value decently, a three year old beemer migh...
umber irradiated address
  07/16/26
Woah cr. So what can I get a three year old beemer for out t...
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
Yes actually. I always used the depreciation to my advantag...
provocative indian lodge
  07/16/26
I just can't imagine ever spending 140,000 dollars on a car....
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
Well-equipped 911s and Caymans, yes. Others will lose a ...
180 fortuitous meteor property
  07/16/26
I should have qualified my statement by saying that people w...
umber irradiated address
  07/16/26
I mean that's what Porsche and BMW primarily sell.
180 fortuitous meteor property
  07/16/26
true, but most people suck and that is not what either of th...
umber irradiated address
  07/16/26
Wtf, I love performance SUVs. My Tesla Model X has over 1k ...
provocative indian lodge
  07/17/26
This is really the rift between enthusiasts and normal peopl...
Laughsome brethren
  07/17/26
This. I have no need for a small sports car. But a 1k hp p...
provocative indian lodge
  07/17/26
The only reason to get the small sportscar is to go to meet ...
Laughsome brethren
  07/17/26
I have a Ford Mach E GT with performance package as well. T...
provocative indian lodge
  07/17/26
No you get a sports car to impress slavic women. If you buy ...
seedy set death wish
  07/19/26
I wouldn't touch a Slavic woman with someone else's dick
Laughsome brethren
  07/19/26
Porsche has a purist focus on the sports car, where BMW is s...
Sepia Antidepressant Drug Newt
  07/16/26
(general used luxury car salesman)
Soul-stirring ivory mediation bawdyhouse
  07/16/26
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slate shitlib blood rage
  07/16/26
Why would I want to own a sportscar? Am I going to have to r...
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
Da.
provocative indian lodge
  07/16/26
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bistre marvelous box office
  07/16/26
As others have pointed out, Porsche builds for sporting expe...
Adventurous ruby nursing home
  07/16/26
What does a driver's car feel like to drive? I just hit the ...
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
Hard to really put into words, but you don’t need an e...
Adventurous ruby nursing home
  07/16/26
(Miata guy)
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
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provocative indian lodge
  07/16/26
cr and miatas are 180
vigorous fluffy stage
  07/17/26
Yeah a lot of old japanese cars were fun because they were R...
Gay faggotry
  07/16/26
Actually a bunch of them were FWD and still super fun - like...
provocative indian lodge
  07/16/26
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vigorous fluffy stage
  07/17/26
I think shit like the Cayenne are exceptions but otherwise C...
bistre marvelous box office
  07/16/26
911s and Caymans made up 25% of Porsche sales in 2025. They ...
180 fortuitous meteor property
  07/16/26
911 is closer to luxury sedan than pure sports car Porsc...
Sticky Twinkling Uncleanness Lay
  07/16/26
i've been driving for 25 years now and i have literally neve...
shaky fantasy-prone candlestick maker
  07/16/26
What do you drive? I actually envy people who don’t gi...
Adventurous ruby nursing home
  07/16/26
I drive a car. Just a normal car.
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
Same. Also the second someone says they're a car guy I immed...
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
:(
Adventurous ruby nursing home
  07/16/26
I just think there are few things more boring than people wh...
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
Lots of car guys are really “my car is my personality&...
Adventurous ruby nursing home
  07/16/26
Yeah can't stand it. Also gun people. I know enough about gu...
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
so what topics do you bore people with irl?
Exhilarant tattoo
  07/16/26
I mostly talk about K Pop Demon Hunters
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
nice, but that's not boring anyone.
Exhilarant tattoo
  07/16/26
When I sense someone is not a Car Guy I just talk about how ...
Adventurous ruby nursing home
  07/16/26
Hey sealclubber how about I run the dinner party entertainme...
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
lol, you'll be out on the patio talking with the women about...
Exhilarant tattoo
  07/16/26
That's true. I will fuck them all behind your back! Enjoy br...
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
i'm not going to quote your post, but you should delete it. ...
Exhilarant tattoo
  07/16/26
Now you're getting it. Women want attention, not for their m...
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
i might be getting it. you're not.
Exhilarant tattoo
  07/16/26
Your wife's gonna get it (from me) unless she's ugly which i...
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
excellent response from a 5th grader
Exhilarant tattoo
  07/16/26
bmw is for faggot cokeheads porsche is legit & steve ...
Violet Place Of Business Range
  07/16/26
Porsche has the barest quantum of enthusiast prestige and as...
Sienna slap-happy school cafeteria roast beef
  07/16/26
So you're saying there's no difference at all between a BMW ...
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
Other than the fact that one of those I would be wiling to o...
Sienna slap-happy school cafeteria roast beef
  07/16/26
I like BMWs. I'm not a car guy.
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
is there even any status car now
up-to-no-good mood dilemma
  07/16/26
If they exist, RSF would own one. CSLG has a P1 iirc.
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
did rsf become a "car guy" at some point? i re...
Vengeful coldplay fan queen of the night
  07/16/26
AMG E53 Hybrid Wagon. Deleted badging. Emphasis on WAGON
Sienna slap-happy school cafeteria roast beef
  07/16/26
I see so many dumb Middle Eastern proles in Lambos, I think ...
180 fortuitous meteor property
  07/16/26
Extremely clean 25 year old Land Cruisers and Lexus LX truck...
Adventurous ruby nursing home
  07/16/26
I am that person.
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
To be fair, the X5 is probably the best car BMW makes and is...
Adventurous ruby nursing home
  07/16/26
cr
provocative indian lodge
  07/19/26
PROTIP: Buy a 2012 Boxster and 99% of women think it's equiv...
Aromatic Medicated Athletic Conference Faggot Firefighter
  07/16/26
lol yeah probably. also a very credited car if you actually ...
Vengeful coldplay fan queen of the night
  07/16/26
Can't imagine ever buying a car due to what women think. Wom...
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
Yeah, to the extent they think about cars it is either a nic...
provocative indian lodge
  07/16/26
I think they care even less than that. It's "Will I be ...
180 fortuitous meteor property
  07/16/26
Women fuck guys fresh out of prison with no license and no c...
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
Yeah, but fucking for drugs/money is a different game
provocative indian lodge
  07/16/26
It's a lot cheaper to be a scumbag than it is to own a Ferra...
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
A nice car that signals wealth/status is a plus. A normal ...
provocative indian lodge
  07/16/26
I think a car is no longer the status symbol it used to be. ...
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
Every chick who has fucked a guy with a Lambo has fucked a g...
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
I don't actually think that is accurate. Not every chick is...
provocative indian lodge
  07/16/26
Not all of them, but goddamn a lot are! And some of the ones...
Laughsome brethren
  07/16/26
that's a sweet car but 99% of the compliments you're gonna g...
vigorous fluffy stage
  07/17/26
Isn't z4 actually better looking abd more functional than bo...
seedy set death wish
  07/20/26
BMW doesn't make drivers' cars any more, it's just for signa...
vigorous fluffy stage
  07/20/26
you can get to raising canes in 99.9% of the time if you don...
Abusive house-broken hissy fit
  07/16/26
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Soul-stirring ivory mediation bawdyhouse
  07/17/26
If you want to signal status just get a bentley convertible....
seedy set death wish
  07/20/26


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Date: July 16th, 2026 5:40 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004664)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 5:46 PM
Author: mustard clown

My brother is gonna buy one soon before they phase out the manual trannies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004687)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 5:55 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

Get one what? I'm not a car guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004706)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 5:59 PM
Author: lime field

I think he's going to pay to get a handjob from a tranny

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004721)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:00 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

Flame? Tranny should be paying him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004725)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:05 PM
Author: lime field

not sure, not really a car guy either

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004737)



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Date: July 19th, 2026 11:39 AM
Author: vigorous fluffy stage

all you guys who identify as "not a car guy" do you live in nyc where you don't need to own one, or do you own something bland and solid that does the job for you? if the latter i'd be genuinely interested to hear what it is and how you like it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50009825)



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Date: July 19th, 2026 12:18 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

Bland imo

It's one of the ones. I like it because it takes me to the store.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50009861)



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Date: July 19th, 2026 12:39 PM
Author: vigorous fluffy stage

cr i like the crv for this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50009889)



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Date: July 19th, 2026 1:32 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

It's the Same Car

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50009974)



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Date: July 19th, 2026 11:51 PM
Author: vigorous fluffy stage

not quite, you can say i'm crazy, but i prefer a crv over a rav4

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50011258)



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Date: July 19th, 2026 11:58 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

At that point the patrician's choice is a Subaru

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50011268)



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Date: July 20th, 2026 12:56 AM
Author: vigorous fluffy stage

no way. maybe in a super lib district. where they also drive volvo and mb station wagons. back in the day, OK fine that's some local flavor. these days, i think it's clear the honda better fits the use. i will admit that i saw a wasp patrician who is massively land rich driving a 10 yo hyundai and it absolutely blew my mind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50011316)



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Date: July 20th, 2026 1:22 AM
Author: Laughsome brethren

Gorgeous guy.

Also no one drives a Volvo. I haven't seen one on the road in decades.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50011324)



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Date: July 20th, 2026 4:11 PM
Author: vigorous fluffy stage

lol cr. and also cr on the volvos: they've been going downhill under chinese ownership, just seem like maintenance on them is getting more expensive relative to the machine. but cutting the other direction, volvo ads are pretty good lately, doing these really long high production content based on family/safety https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQX-QXxwGvA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50012606)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 5:57 PM
Author: provocative indian lodge

BMW has US factories. Porsche does not. Given tariffs this is significant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004709)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:02 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

So is it the Same Car?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004729)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:05 PM
Author: provocative indian lodge

No. You might be thinking Audi since a lot of them are the exact same platform. The Q7 and Cayenne are on the same platform, the Macan and Q5 are on the same platform, their EVs are on the same platform and basically the same car with minor differences. But they're also super expensive in the US for the same reason (factories are in Germany).

Basically, if you're American and want a German car then BMW is the obvious answer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004739)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:08 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

I never doubted the Bavarians fren.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004747)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:12 PM
Author: provocative indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004763)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 5:58 PM
Author: slate shitlib blood rage

sexier badge

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004713)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 5:59 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

ELI5 I'm not a car guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004722)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:05 PM
Author: slate shitlib blood rage

porsche is upper middle class coded, bmw is ethnic new money coded. people pay for the logo on the car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004735)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:08 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

I think the BMW's are nicer because I like the interiors way more. I prioritize comfort over sport mode or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004744)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:13 PM
Author: slate shitlib blood rage

you should probably go with a benz if thats your priority

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004766)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:14 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

I would never turn my back on BMW. Although I owned one once and it was a lemon. But that never deterred me!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004769)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:14 PM
Author: provocative indian lodge

This is overrated, tbh. I just had BMW and Mercedes rentals back to back and preferred the BMW in pretty much every way including the interior.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004772)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 8:25 PM
Author: slate shitlib blood rage

interesting, i have a benz and a bmw and the benz is much nicer, but its also a better model

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005076)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 10:32 PM
Author: provocative indian lodge

Higher end model will win with any of the major German car brands for interiors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005375)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 8:14 PM
Author: Rusted Coffee Pot

Porsche interiors destroy BMW it’s not close.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005053)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 8:37 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005120)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 5:59 PM
Author: Soul-stirring ivory mediation bawdyhouse

one looks like a beetle the other now comes with a hideous enormous chinaslop grille

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004720)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 5:59 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

Which is which?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004724)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:07 PM
Author: Sepia Antidepressant Drug Newt

Porsche looks like a beetle, bmw has a chinaslop grille

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004742)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:09 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

If loving chinaslop is wrong, I don't ever want to be right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004748)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:12 PM
Author: provocative indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004761)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:05 PM
Author: umber irradiated address

porsches retain value decently, a three year old beemer might as well be a 20 year old civic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004734)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:10 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

Woah cr. So what can I get a three year old beemer for out the door if I pay cash?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004751)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:12 PM
Author: provocative indian lodge

Yes actually. I always used the depreciation to my advantage too. They also have a good CPO program so you can still get some warranty and they let you buy more years of coverage. Porsche does this too but with high resale values it isn't such a good value.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004760)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:16 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

I just can't imagine ever spending 140,000 dollars on a car. That's like, what? Two semesters at NYU? Crazy. For $47,000 for a beamer I'd buy three of em.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004779)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 7:45 PM
Author: 180 fortuitous meteor property

Well-equipped 911s and Caymans, yes.

Others will lose a smaller percentage to depreciation but will cost significantly more to operate for similar performance. E.g. a Cayenne might lose 45-48% of value after 5 years while an X5 loses 50-54%, but the X5 will be much cheaper to operate on a dollar basis because the Cayenne costs so much more when new.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004979)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 7:57 PM
Author: umber irradiated address

I should have qualified my statement by saying that people who buy "performance" suv's are braindead and deserve to be culled from society

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005021)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 8:13 PM
Author: 180 fortuitous meteor property

I mean that's what Porsche and BMW primarily sell.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005052)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 8:34 PM
Author: umber irradiated address

true, but most people suck and that is not what either of them actually do well, those doods are just buying a badge and expensive tires for no reason

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005094)



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Date: July 17th, 2026 4:02 PM
Author: provocative indian lodge

Wtf, I love performance SUVs. My Tesla Model X has over 1k horsepower.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50006903)



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Date: July 17th, 2026 4:13 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

This is really the rift between enthusiasts and normal people. Nerds can't stomach performance SUVs because they're not a real trackday race car. Which is like, who effing cares lol. None of these people who buy high performance luxury sports cars are real racecar drivers either. What percentage of Porsche 911 GT3 owners ever take it to even one track day? If you're legitimately into motorsport as your real life hobby it's cool but 98% of consumers have to have zero interest. Hence performance SUVs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50006928)



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Date: July 17th, 2026 4:47 PM
Author: provocative indian lodge

This. I have no need for a small sports car. But a 1k hp performance SUV is 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50006980)



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Date: July 17th, 2026 4:55 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

The only reason to get the small sportscar is to go to meet ups and talk about how you're superior to people who have the SUV.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50006994)



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Date: July 17th, 2026 7:03 PM
Author: provocative indian lodge

I have a Ford Mach E GT with performance package as well. To me that is small. Someone asked me recently if I was getting the new Tesla Roadster and my response was "tf would I do with that?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50007271)



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Date: July 19th, 2026 5:53 PM
Author: seedy set death wish

No you get a sports car to impress slavic women. If you buy porsche cayenne you bought the same car as every 40yo fat woman in miami.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50010617)



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Date: July 19th, 2026 11:58 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

I wouldn't touch a Slavic woman with someone else's dick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50011271)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:06 PM
Author: Sepia Antidepressant Drug Newt

Porsche has a purist focus on the sports car, where BMW is supposed to be a more versatile driving experience. That's the difference.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004741)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:09 PM
Author: Soul-stirring ivory mediation bawdyhouse

(general used luxury car salesman)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004750)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:13 PM
Author: slate shitlib blood rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004767)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:11 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

Why would I want to own a sportscar? Am I going to have to race somebody to the mall?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004754)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:15 PM
Author: provocative indian lodge

Da.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004774)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:37 PM
Author: bistre marvelous box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004828)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:35 PM
Author: Adventurous ruby nursing home

As others have pointed out, Porsche builds for sporting experience first in every product they release. And something like the 911 is a pure sports car built on a dedicated sports car platform, whereas even BMW’s sports cars are built on top of a base mainline product platform (eg the M3 is still built off of a regular 3 series platform).

Porsches are also far more connected to the road from a driver feel and engagement perspective, whereas BMWs have become extremely numb. Sure, many BMWs are fast, but you feel nothing driving them.

Strangely enough, the most engaging driver’s cars today primarily come from Porsche or Japan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004820)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:38 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

What does a driver's car feel like to drive? I just hit the gas and go down the street. How much driving should I be doing and how much should I feel it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004829)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:41 PM
Author: Adventurous ruby nursing home

Hard to really put into words, but you don’t need an expensive car even to understand this. Generally it feels like you can “feel” what the car is doing and where it has grip going into and coming out of corners. If it has a manual transmission, the shifter is engaging and the clutch point is clear. The steering should give real feedback based on the road and not just feel like a sim rig or totally fake.

IMO the most engaging cars also are fun to drive without needing to go 90+ mph.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004839)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:43 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

(Miata guy)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004842)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 10:47 PM
Author: provocative indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005426)



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Date: July 17th, 2026 12:05 AM
Author: vigorous fluffy stage

cr and miatas are 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005563)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 11:04 PM
Author: Gay faggotry

Yeah a lot of old japanese cars were fun because they were RWD and had good manual transmissions.

The answer to OP's question is that some Porsches put the engine in the ass-end and give you RWD plus a stick shift. That's an engineering feat no other company will attempt. The Porsches with the engine in the front are a different story.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005463)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 11:53 PM
Author: provocative indian lodge

Actually a bunch of them were FWD and still super fun - like the old Acura Integras. What made them fun was not that it was RWD vs FWD (many American alternatives were RWD) but that these cars were very light and the high revving Japanese engines made them far more agile/nimble than American cars of that era.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005543)



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Date: July 17th, 2026 12:05 AM
Author: vigorous fluffy stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005564)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:40 PM
Author: bistre marvelous box office

I think shit like the Cayenne are exceptions but otherwise CR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004836)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 7:26 PM
Author: 180 fortuitous meteor property

911s and Caymans made up 25% of Porsche sales in 2025. They are primarily a seller of rebadged Q5s and Q7s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004951)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 9:05 PM
Author: Sticky Twinkling Uncleanness Lay

911 is closer to luxury sedan than pure sports car

Porsche has gotten farther away from the driving experience than BMW with their failed EV production and 4-door sedans beating 911 specs now on paper

M3 (and 2 and 4, 5 and 8 for that matter) all handle better than a basic 911

BMW had more manual stick shift options

And M cars have higher ADM by % than 911s last time I checked and the waiting list for an M3/M4 allocation was worse than a Rolex

Other than that I mostly agree with you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005194)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:37 PM
Author: shaky fantasy-prone candlestick maker

i've been driving for 25 years now and i have literally never once thought about my "experience"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004826)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:38 PM
Author: Adventurous ruby nursing home

What do you drive? I actually envy people who don’t give a shit about this stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004830)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:38 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

I drive a car. Just a normal car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004834)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:38 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

Same. Also the second someone says they're a car guy I immediately block them on all social media.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004832)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:42 PM
Author: Adventurous ruby nursing home

:(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004841)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:44 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

I just think there are few things more boring than people who are really into cars. You seem cool in other ways and obviously someone needs to know about cars. But I get really sick of the token Car Guy at gatherings talking about cars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004843)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: Adventurous ruby nursing home

Lots of car guys are really “my car is my personality” guys, so you aren’t wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004853)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:51 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

Yeah can't stand it. Also gun people. I know enough about guns that I don't need to hear you talk about guns for an hour.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004859)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:58 PM
Author: Exhilarant tattoo

so what topics do you bore people with irl?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004885)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 6:59 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

I mostly talk about K Pop Demon Hunters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004893)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 7:11 PM
Author: Exhilarant tattoo

nice, but that's not boring anyone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004921)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 7:13 PM
Author: Adventurous ruby nursing home

When I sense someone is not a Car Guy I just talk about how Martin’s actual name was Michael King and that he plagiarized his PhD thesis. It is fairly successful.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004929)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 7:13 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

Hey sealclubber how about I run the dinner party entertainment and you sit in the corner butthurt, alright?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004930)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 8:38 PM
Author: Exhilarant tattoo

lol, you'll be out on the patio talking with the women about the latest episode of real housewives while the men are talking about cars, guns, and other guy stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005123)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 8:39 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

That's true. I will fuck them all behind your back! Enjoy bro time, faggot!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005129)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: Exhilarant tattoo

i'm not going to quote your post, but you should delete it. yes, non-man patio boy is going to just fuck all of the hot wives in the back of their kias, maybe hyundais, maybe subarus. he doesn't know because he's not a car guy, just a mega fucker.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005137)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 8:43 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

Now you're getting it. Women want attention, not for their man to go off and golf without them. There's a lot of desperate housewives out there. You'd be amazed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005143)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 8:45 PM
Author: Exhilarant tattoo

i might be getting it. you're not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005147)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

Your wife's gonna get it (from me) unless she's ugly which in that case, ew, no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005148)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 10:49 PM
Author: Exhilarant tattoo

excellent response

from a 5th grader

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005436)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 7:12 PM
Author: Violet Place Of Business Range

bmw is for faggot cokeheads

porsche is legit & steve jobs drove one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004925)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 7:40 PM
Author: Sienna slap-happy school cafeteria roast beef

Porsche has the barest quantum of enthusiast prestige and aspirational nature left in their brand.

BMW is completely hollowed out and every single model is only purchased by the type of person whose primary goal is to signal status.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004970)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 7:42 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

So you're saying there's no difference at all between a BMW and a Toyota?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004972)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 7:48 PM
Author: Sienna slap-happy school cafeteria roast beef

Other than the fact that one of those I would be wiling to own outside of warranty, no, not really. At the end of the day there isn’t a lot of daylight between the personality defects of Overland Gear Strapped to Tacoma Guy and Lowered Blacked-Out M5 Guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004991)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 7:49 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

I like BMWs. I'm not a car guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004998)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 7:49 PM
Author: up-to-no-good mood dilemma

is there even any status car now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50004995)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 7:50 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

If they exist, RSF would own one. CSLG has a P1 iirc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005001)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 8:18 PM
Author: Vengeful coldplay fan queen of the night

did rsf become a "car guy" at some point?

i remember him mentioning a few times his only vehicle was something like a 2004 audi that sits in a garage in nyc 99% of the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005062)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 7:51 PM
Author: Sienna slap-happy school cafeteria roast beef

AMG E53 Hybrid Wagon. Deleted badging.

Emphasis on WAGON

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005004)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 7:52 PM
Author: 180 fortuitous meteor property

I see so many dumb Middle Eastern proles in Lambos, I think the answer is no. A status car is a paid off car in front of a nice house.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005007)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 8:01 PM
Author: Adventurous ruby nursing home

Extremely clean 25 year old Land Cruisers and Lexus LX trucks. Singer Porsche restomods. As the other poster said, AMG Wagons (performance wagons in general IMO).

Though the average person buying a BMW X5 probably thinks it makes them look rich / high status.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005029)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 8:04 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

I am that person.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005033)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 8:11 PM
Author: Adventurous ruby nursing home

To be fair, the X5 is probably the best car BMW makes and is a great SUV.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005046)



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Date: July 19th, 2026 4:18 PM
Author: provocative indian lodge

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50010408)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 8:14 PM
Author: Aromatic Medicated Athletic Conference Faggot Firefighter

PROTIP: Buy a 2012 Boxster and 99% of women think it's equivalent to a Ferrari.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005055)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 8:23 PM
Author: Vengeful coldplay fan queen of the night

lol yeah probably. also a very credited car if you actually want to drive it regularly though. i doubt id like having a ferrari unless i was mega mega rich

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005073)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 8:38 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

Can't imagine ever buying a car due to what women think. Women think about crazy shit but they don't think about cars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005126)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 10:35 PM
Author: provocative indian lodge

Yeah, to the extent they think about cars it is either a nice car or it is not. I guess there is about two levels of nice - BMW/Mercedes/Lexus/Porsche and then another step up for Ferrari/Lambo because they know they're more expensive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005389)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 10:37 PM
Author: 180 fortuitous meteor property

I think they care even less than that. It's "Will I be embarrassed to be seen in this?" or not. A newer, clean Accord is perfectly fine if they like the guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005393)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 10:38 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

Women fuck guys fresh out of prison with no license and no car because they have a cocaine hookup.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005402)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 10:49 PM
Author: provocative indian lodge

Yeah, but fucking for drugs/money is a different game

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005437)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 10:53 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

It's a lot cheaper to be a scumbag than it is to own a Ferrari. And some guys with a Ferrari can't get laid. In fact, probably a lot of Ferrari owners can't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005450)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 10:49 PM
Author: provocative indian lodge

A nice car that signals wealth/status is a plus. A normal car is neutral. A shitty car is a negative.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005435)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 10:54 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

I think a car is no longer the status symbol it used to be. RSF could just talk about vacations in France and that would end it for any guy with a cool car. Cars just aren't cool!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005454)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 10:37 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

Every chick who has fucked a guy with a Lambo has fucked a guy who lives with his mom and has a criminal record and no car and his license is suspended.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005397)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 10:50 PM
Author: provocative indian lodge

I don't actually think that is accurate. Not every chick is attracted to criminal losers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005441)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 10:52 PM
Author: Laughsome brethren

Not all of them, but goddamn a lot are! And some of the ones that are are giga attractive!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005448)



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Date: July 17th, 2026 12:08 AM
Author: vigorous fluffy stage

that's a sweet car but 99% of the compliments you're gonna get are from men

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005570)



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Date: July 20th, 2026 8:13 AM
Author: seedy set death wish

Isn't z4 actually better looking abd more functional than boxster? If it's just about the porsche steering wheel, might as well get a cayenne that every fat woman in my building has.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50011455)



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Date: July 20th, 2026 5:16 PM
Author: vigorous fluffy stage

BMW doesn't make drivers' cars any more, it's just for signaling. But yeah sure z4 probably has a bigger trunk and more comfortable for super long drives

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50012742)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 10:57 PM
Author: Abusive house-broken hissy fit

you can get to raising canes in 99.9% of the time if you dont get pulled over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50005457)



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Date: July 17th, 2026 5:10 PM
Author: Soul-stirring ivory mediation bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50007022)



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Date: July 20th, 2026 8:17 AM
Author: seedy set death wish

If you want to signal status just get a bentley convertible. It's constantly displayed at my local shopping mall in Miami. It basically signals to a woman that you are willing to drop extra $200k just because of looks. Same reason you would buy a more expensive house,etc. BMW/Mercedes is something that welfare people in Harlem buy(they just buy it used)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883275&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310690#50011458)